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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Graizen

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Sakurai creating a virtual pet has no effect on Smash.

Tamagotchi existing in an entirely unrelated game also has no effect on Smash.

Which means they also have no effect on a Digimon's chances.
So , if Sakurai buys a game or likes a game , it has effect in Smash.

But if he himself Create a Game, it don't have.

Why?

In my mind it has the same power as Kid Icarus.
 
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WolfCypher

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How would Zerazora being a Lucario Echo even work?
Aura Sphere = Electro Ball
Force Palm = Plasma Fists
Extreme Speed = Volt Switch
Double Team as a counter cause reasons = Quick Guard as a counter cause reasons

All A moves are kept visually similar as is.

Not that I want Zeraora as an echo. I love how Pokémon has so many reps that don't rely on copying each other.
 

Graizen

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Disagreed. Pikachu is still the blatant face of the franchise, and casual fans know Pikachu before they know anyone else at all. He's on the merchandise, he's on every cover for the anime, he got his own detective game (for some reason), etc. Even my grandma knows who the hell Pikachu is, but probably can't even name Squirtle.

It's good to not confuse the hardcore fans who spend significant time on Smashboards with the overwhelmingly larger casual audience to which this game needs to appeal.
I think you don't understand my point here sir.
 

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So , if Sakurai buys a game or likes a game , it has effect in Smash.

But if he himself Create a Game, it don't have.

Why?

In my mind it has the same power as Kid Icarus.
Sakurai is not literally chained to Smash and can't do anything else. He is allowed to make other games without the expectation that it must mean something for Smash.
 

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In line with all the Pokémon talk that still seems to be going, here's a fun little video:


Can we get Ditto in Smash as a playable character?
 

Pazzo.

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Rumors have been floating around about another Square-Enix character, yes?

I have the perfect candidate.

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A sampling of some of the music we could have:


Who's that? Kinda reminds me of Terminator.
That's J.C. Denton, protagonist of Deus Ex, one of the greatest games ever created. He's an augmented United Nations Anti-Terrorist Coalition in the year 2052. He's well known for his witty quips and cold attitude.
 

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Fairy types might've hurt Hydriegon and Sableye, but it gave Poison types a reason to exist.
Also it made Gardevoir (one of my go to Pokemon whenever it's available) even more useful.
 

MysticKnives

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Goku is not more popular than other characters in Drabon Ball, like Vegeta.
But you will never put Vegeta first and not Goku in a game.


Thats the problem.
Agumon is the mascot. He is the Face.
Omegamon is a evolution that Agumon can reach.
Out west that’s debatable. I’m more likely to believe Goku is more popular in Japan than Vegeta though. We don’t have anything to really gauge that currently. Though many of the previous polls had Goku above Vegeta in popularity.
 
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Iridium

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Fairy types might've hurt Hydriegon and Sableye, but it gave Poison types a reason to exist.
Also it made Gardevoir (one of my go to Pokemon whenever it's available) even more useful.
It also reestablished my love for Steel-types, like Scizor, and this guy.


You see, Gen V was definitely underrated to me (and many). I don't think any generation has been downright atrocious at all.
 

Graizen

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Sakurai is not literally chained to Smash and can't do anything else. He is allowed to make other games without the expectation that it must mean something for Smash.
Let's be more precise:
List of Games that Sakurai made/worked:


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The only games not represented in Smash here are:

-Meteos and Meteos Disney
-Mushiking


Meteos is a Tetris Game and Mushiking is a Tamagotchi/Virtual Pet game.

-We already have Tetris in Smash as well!

So the only type of representation that Sakurai worked with that we don't have in Smash is Tamagotchi.

-Tamagotchi can be represented by Mametchi or Agumon.

The same way he will not put Meteos in Smash thanks to Tetris being more popular.
He will not put a Bug in Smash , thanks to Tamagotchi being more popular.


I think this have alot of weight.
 
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It also reestablished my love for Steel-types, like Scizor, and this guy.


You see, Gen V was definitely underrated to me (and many). I don't think any generation has been downright atrocious at all.
To each their own. I don't consider Gen V bad, it's just not my favorite. I'm also not huge on Gen II's Dex either aside from Typhlosion, Ampharos, Espeon, and Umbreon.
 

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I like my obnoxiously cute Marx too much.

Also, sorry if it was going too far to drop it on you. It felt like a funny joke to crack.
Eh, you're fine. I was being obnoxious yesterday. I kinda deserved that..
I'm the one who should be sorry...
Aura Sphere = Electro Ball
Force Palm = Plasma Fists
Extreme Speed = Volt Switch
Double Team as a counter cause reasons = Quick Guard as a counter cause reasons

All A moves are kept visually similar as is.

Not that I want Zeraora as an echo. I love how Pokémon has so many reps that don't rely on copying each other.
I honestly don't think Gamefreak would allow unrelated pokemon to be Echoes... (Pichu makes sense, he's the preveloution of Pikachu)
Don't they want every Pokemon to be treated as unique?
 

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More yikes content
at this point, reposting his cruddy and desperate videos is essentially shilling.
i say don't bother looking, maybe he'll have to learn fooling 60k viewers for ad revenue won't get him anywhere in his life
 

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Time for another forum game:

What hypothetical match-ups have you always dreamt of doing between characters in Smash and characters who aren’t playable yet?( disconfirmed or not)
 
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I honestly don't think Gamefreak would allow unrelated pokemon to be Echoes... (Pichu makes sense, he's the preveloution of Pikachu)
Don't they want every Pokemon to be treated as unique?
This is the first I'm hearing of this. I don't recall that ever being a thing.
 

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In line with all the Pokémon talk that still seems to be going, here's a fun little video:


Can we get Ditto in Smash as a playable character?
He could work as a Shang Tsung-styled boss.

Time for another forum game:

What hypothetical match-ups have you always dreamt of doing between characters in Smash and characters who aren’t playable yet?( disconfirmed or not)
Wario Vs. Mona
Wario Vs. Shantae
Wario Vs. Cpt. Syrup
Wario Vs. Risky Boots
Pauline Vs. Donkey Kong
 
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You got a problem with Boo-Boo Keys?
Cousin's Klefki uses Thunderwave!
Pokemon may be unable to move!
Pokemon was paralyzed! It did not move.
Cousin's Klefki uses Swagger!
Pokemon is confused!
Pokemon hit itself in its confusion!
Proceeds to curse out at my cousin.

EDIT: AND it has Prankster, so all these moves go first! :mad:
 
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RandomAce

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I still want this guy (オノノクス).


I would love some playable Dragon-type rep. Otherwise, Noivern and Garchomp would be some excellent picks.
The Axew line was my favorite from Gen 5. They’re just so damn good, and Haxorus is just bad ass. Easily one my favorite Pokémon of all time.
 
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Noipoi

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Cousin's Klefki uses Thunderwave!
Pokemon may be unable to move!
Pokemon was paralyzed! It did not move.
Cousin's Klefki uses Swagger!
Pokemon is confused!
Pokemon hit itself in its confusion!
Proceeds to curse out at my cousin.
...
I've got a problem with Boo-Boo keys...
 

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I think you don't understand my point here sir.
No, I do. I just overtly disagree with it.

I don't think, at all, that people wouldn't be asking for Pikachu if Smash were made today.
 
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