Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Yonder]

how can you write something that's 4.5 million words? what is it even about? how long can a story go on omg

Mine on fanfiction.net is 450k words?

I can see it...

 

[Danpal65]

Is she? Is it one of those super slow walking hallway segments wherein that game's sad excuse for a story was playing out or something? I remembered she appears in some cutscenes but didn't remember actually playing as her. Then again, Other M didn't have real gameplay at any point so it's hard to figure out what to count form that trainwreck.

This isn't just directed at you, but can we please for the sake of everyone and the baby Metroid stop perpetuating the idea that Other M is literally the worst game in the universe. Yes it characterised Samus badly and the control scheme was an awful idea, but it was a visually impressive game for the Wii and the actual gameplay was solid and reaonsably well fleshed out. Exploring the human side of Samus was something we hadn't seen before and the idea of her having PTSD isn't unique to the game, it was brought up in the manga too.

I've played Other M multiple times and I acknowledge it isn't a perfect game or in the same league as the Prime Trilogy, but it sure as heck does not deserve the constant negativity and hate that it gets.

 

[Starbound]

I would play Metal Gear Solid but I don't think they have any Switch games yet :U

And that's the only console I have...

 

[Noipoi]

Oh, you know what I'd try to recommend for you...

But other than that game, there's Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger you could check out...

It actually doesn't have Chrono Trigger which sucks, but Super Metroid is high on my list.

 

[Zinith]

It actually doesn't have Chrono Trigger which sucks, but Super Metroid is high on my list.

Oh, you have the SNES Classic? Then either Final Fantasy VI or Super Mario RPG depending on how experienced you are at RPGs

 

[SmashShadow]

This isn't just directed at you, but can we please for the sake of everyone and the baby Metroid stop perpetuating the idea that Other M is literally the worst game in the universe. Yes it characterised Samus badly and the control scheme was an awful idea, but it was a visually impressive game for the Wii and the actual gameplay was solid and reaonsably well fleshed out. Exploring the human side of Samus was something we hadn't seen before and the idea of her having PTSD isn't unique to the game, it was brought up in the manga too.

I've played Other M multiple times and I acknowledge it isn't a perfect game or in the same league as the Prime Trilogy, but it sure as heck does not deserve the constant negativity and hate that it gets.

This. It suffers from being a mediocre title in comparison to many of the other entries in its series but it is hardly a bad game.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

This isn't just directed at you, but can we please for the sake of everyone and the baby Metroid stop perpetuating the idea that Other M is literally the worst game in the universe. Yes it characterised Samus badly and the control scheme was an awful idea, but it was a visually impressive game for the Wii and the actual gameplay was solid and reaonsably well fleshed out. Exploring the human side of Samus was something we hadn't seen before and the idea of her having PTSD isn't unique to the game, it was brought up in the manga too.

I've played Other M multiple times and I acknowledge it isn't a perfect game or in the same league as the Prim Trilogy, but it sure as heck does not deserve the constant negativity and hate that it gets.

It's a decent game on it's own but a terrible metroid game. If it was a completely separate franchise it would be fine but it's really not. The game was super linear and lacked any sort of complexity in it's environments (it felt like I was walking through the same few hallways the entire game), as far as action games go the combat was pretty shallow and the controls didn't help at all, and then there's the story...the best things it has going for it is visuals, music and some pretty neat and flashy set pieces but it pretty much lacks everything that makes metroid good.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I never actually played Super Metroid before owning the SNES classic. The 2D Metroid games I grew up playing were Zero Mission and Fusion, both of which I love.

 

[Knight Dude]

Downloadable Gamecube games when, Nintendo?

That's what I want to see above all else.

That's a good question. Some of those games are getting pretty rare, it'd be nice for more people get access to them. I think I got most of the "essential" games on the Gamecube, since I had one since I was a kid.

But stuff like FE: PoR is super costly, and Melee and Metroid Prime aren't super cheap either. Not to mention, it'd give people another chance at trying games like Wario World.

 

[Noipoi]

Oh, you have the SNES Classic? Then either Final Fantasy VI or Super Mario RPG depending on how experienced you are at RPGs

Nah I don't have it yet. But i'm about to get one.
I like to research what I get and unfortunately the snes classic doesn't have Chrono Trigger.
Is Mario rpg easier than Final Fantasy VI? The only rpg i'm good at is Pokemon so i'm not trying to jump into anything too hard too fast.

 

[BlondeLombax]

Sadly my last Sony console was the PS2.


I feel like I'm missing the point here haha.

Spoiler: Behold...

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Anymore word for the guy that got his hands on a copy of the demo?

 

[sdpdude9]

Have played:

Have not played: ultchrom:

 

[Zinith]

Nah I don't have it yet. But i'm about to get one.
I like to research what I get and unfortunately the snes classic doesn't have Chrono Trigger.
Is Mario rpg easier than Final Fantasy VI? The only rpg i'm good at is Pokemon so i'm not trying to jump into anything too hard too fast.

Mario RPG is MUCH easier than Final Fantasy VI and it's more for beginners.

 

[BlondeLombax]

Anymore word for the guy that got his hands on a copy of the demo?

He's a quack.

PSA: the person claiming to have the demo of Smash Ultimate is probably lying.

Thanks to @sapphic_tracer for the heads up.

It's not so much the TV, but the red Switch stand is the same. Please compare the two pictures for yourself.https://t.co/JEC8fF625p pic.twitter.com/rlL4sZNkgi

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) August 29, 2018

 

[Jetsurge]

Played:
ultrosalina:

Not played:


Edit: Fixed it

 

[Deathcarter]

Have played:
ultlucina:

Acquainted through spinoffs but not a mainline appearance:


Never played their debut gen but played in later games:


Only played future incarnations of the character:


Never touched:

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Excluding Smash Bros

Have Played and Completed: ultrosalina:
Played and Never Finished: ()
Never fought/teamed with/played as specific boss/character: (varies)(varies)
Never played game:
No to everything in life:

Spoiler: Behold...

how would a Pit understand what he’s looking at/reading when he’s illiterate? How would he learn how to even get into memes

Killager into screams...not surprised

And dammit Yoshi

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

He's a quack.

PSA: the person claiming to have the demo of Smash Ultimate is probably lying.

Thanks to @sapphic_tracer for the heads up.

It's not so much the TV, but the red Switch stand is the same. Please compare the two pictures for yourself.https://t.co/JEC8fF625p pic.twitter.com/rlL4sZNkgi

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) August 29, 2018

Thank You. Was wondering if he had found out who else is to be revealed.

 

[ZephyrZ]

This is something that sounds great on paper, but just doesn't really work all that well in practice in a dynamic game; sure switching to Zard allows you to live a bit longer, but then you're much easier to hit, possibly open yourself up to kill confirms you weren't susceptible before, have a much harder time actually getting in and hitting your opponent, possibly playing a worse matchup, etc. There's a lot of factors involved beyond just "I can live longer", "I can kill easier", etc.

You're right about that, there is a lot of things to consider. Characters with powerful kill confirms are going to be scary to play against with Zard. They already are in Smash 4 - I hate fighting DK and that gosh danged Ding Dong of his, so that's a match I'll probably be using Squirt and Ivy in. On the flip side, I've survived a lot of Zero Suit ladder combos with Zard that would have killed almost any other fighter. Each character is going to have their uses, but I'm willing to learn all three characters and all the complexities of when to use on and when to use another.

And as Amazing Ampharos pointed out, simply keeping your opponents on your toes is already a huge advantage. In fact, I feel like a lot of characters who are high tier already in Smash 4 (Diddy, Mewtwo, Sheik) are so good because they have the flexibility to play either aggressively or defensively depending on the situation and constantly force their opponents to adapt.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Other M did incredible damage to the Metroid franchise. It's fine to like it but it can't be denied it put the Metroid series into hibernation.

 

[Zinith]

Played:
ultrosalina:

Not played:

You missed quite a bit...

 

[staindgrey]

Honestly, I think "beat" versus "never beat" would be a more interesting game than "played" versus "never played".

 

[Knight Dude]

Spoiler: Behold...

Rockman not listening to Rock music ain't right. lol.

 

[Will]

Other M did incredible damage to the Metroid franchise. It's fine to like it but it can't be denied it put the Metroid series into hibernation.

Says DarkFalcon as Federation Force and Samus Returns suddenly stop existing and there's a new Mandela effect worldwide
wait then that means AM2R would still be up wouldnt it?

 

[Jetsurge]

You missed quite a bit...

Yeah because I'm on mobile. I'll fix it up.

 

[Noipoi]

I only know Other M from memes.

THE BABY
REMEMBER ME?
THAT OK LADY?

 

[Hinata]

Honestly, I think "beat" versus "never beat" would be a more interesting game than "played" versus "never played".

Same, because "played" could mean anything. Could just mean that you picked up the game this character comes from, ****** around for an hour or two, and then never touched it again.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Honestly, I think "beat" versus "never beat" would be a more interesting game than "played" versus "never played".

Does it count as beating Wii Fit if I was only "at risk of overweight" when I stopped playing it?

 

[Knight Dude]

Now, I think the Joycons can act pretty similar to the Wii-mote(it has motion controls so it should work), but I wonder how they'll put any DS games on the Switch.

Either way, I hope Punch-Out!! Wii is downloadable on the Switch as well eventually.

 

[Fell God]

He's a quack.

PSA: the person claiming to have the demo of Smash Ultimate is probably lying.

Thanks to @sapphic_tracer for the heads up.

It's not so much the TV, but the red Switch stand is the same. Please compare the two pictures for yourself.https://t.co/JEC8fF625p pic.twitter.com/rlL4sZNkgi

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) August 29, 2018

I feel like I should be mad about this

 

[KingofPhantoms]

That's a good question. Some of those games are getting pretty rare, it'd be nice for more people get access to them. I think I got most of the "essential" games on the Gamecube, since I had one since I was a kid.

But stuff like FE: PoR is super costly, and Melee and Metroid Prime aren't super cheap either. Not to mention, it'd give people another chance at trying games like Wario World.

This is exactly what I'm getting at. Plenty of NES, SNES, N64, heck even GBA and DS games are still available for download on previous Nintendo consoles. The Gamecube and in turn it's titles ceased production long ago and have yet to get the same treatment on one of the later consoles. The games are naturally getting rarer and more expensive, so it's much harder to find and play them nowadays.

People that missed out on certain titles or never got a Gamecube to begin with could really be missing out. The GC had plenty of great games and all of them are very hard to come by now. At least Wind Waker got a remake for the Wii U, pretty much every other single GC-exclusive title hasn't had such fortune. I myself missed out on some games like Metroid Prime and Kirby's Air Ride, and I'm lucky that I got Super Mario Sunshine and Wario World when I did; the Gamecube era was over by that point in time, but it's been many years since then, they're surely way harder to get now than they would've when my mother and I went looking for them way back then.

The Gamecube era needs more love. Most consoles before it kept getting ported to newer consoles and for good reason, but the GC is now one of the oldest ones that hasn't gotten any downloadable ports yet. It's at least a bit overdue.

 

[SirCamp]

Characters from games I've played:

Characters from games I have not played: ultroy:

I've played the original Kid Icarus, but not uprising so no Dark Pit.

I've played Metroid Prime, but I'm not really a Metroid fan so just Samus and Ridley there.

Surprisingly I don't believe I've ever played a Kirby game. Something I plan to rectify at some point soon.

Same with Fire Emblem for that matter.

And Mother. I actually really want to play through the Mother series, so I hope they become available on Switch at some point.

Would like to play through the Xenoblade series as well, but again haven't picked it up yet. Will get around to it eventually.

I've no interest in Splatoon (or any shooter regardless of how creative it may be).

No interest in MGS either (don't kill me).

I want to play Animal Crossing but simply havent gotten around to it.

Never played Ice Climbers and tbh I've heard it's not that great. Haven't played a ton of retros really so no G&W either. I've only played Duck Hunt like a couple times at a friend's place in grade school. And didn't really like it if I'm honest.

Never played any Street Fighter games, though I wouldn't be opposed to trying. Just never got super into traditional fights. Mostly my experience in that arena is with Soul Caliber.

Castlevania I've been wanting to try, just haven't really had the chance yet.

Wii Fit is hardly even a game, so meh.

Megaman I didn't play during his heyday. Will probbaly give his games a try at some point. Not a huge priority though.

Will give Bayonetta a try, but I'm a bit dubious tbh.

Don't really have any interest in Dr. Mario.

And again R.O.B isn't really a game and neither robots nor action figure esque peripherals are really all that interesting to me.

Finally I never played Punch Out on the wii and likely never will tbh. Doesn't look all that interesting.

So basically I would like to play Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Castlevania, Animal Crossing, and Mother. Will likely get around to trying out Megaman and Bayonetta at some point as well. The rest don't really interest me.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Now, I think the Joycons can act pretty similar to the Wii-mote(it has motion controls so it should work), but I wonder how they'll put any DS games on the Switch.

Either way, I hope Punch-Out!! Wii is downloadable on the Switch as well eventually.

Maybe they'll just make a sequel to punch out? next level games haven't done anything since federation force anyway

Either that or luigi's mansion 3 I guess, or both

 

[Knight Dude]

Same, because "played" could mean anything. Could just mean that you picked up the game this character comes from, ****** around for an hour or two, and then never touched it again.

If that's the case, then I'd have to cut Snake and Simon.

A played Punch-Out!! a fair bit but it's not like I beat Tyson yet. I think at best I got to the 5th fight or so. But I want to get back to it someday.

 

[Noipoi]

Does it count as beating Wii Fit if I was only "at risk of overweight" when I stopped playing it?

You didn't even get to Wii Fit's final boss, the Obesity Lord?
pathetic.

 

[KMDP]

Speaking of the NES Classic and SNES Classic... I wonder what the N64 Classic and GCN Classic are going to have on them (assuming they even get made).

 

[lordvaati]

It actually doesn't have Chrono Trigger which sucks, but Super Metroid is high on my list.

You can snag the 3DS version for around 25-30 bucks on Amazon, even added another alternate ending too.

Some older fans dislike the change tro Frogs language but if you can get past that it's your best option.

 

[BlondeLombax]

Rockman not listening to Rock music ain't right. lol.

My god, you're right...

THAT OK LADY?

]

Other M did incredible damage to the Metroid franchise. It's fine to like it but it can't be denied it put the Metroid series into hibernation.

Speaking of that game...

If it wasn't obvious enough, I've been on a bit of a TFS binge lately...

 

[Idon]

Instead of Pokemon Let's Go, when are they gonna make Fire Emblem Let's Go where the gameplay is watered down but the graphics look amazing.