Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[PF9]

What really puzzles me is that of the mammalian Pokemon, Lucario got realistic fur but Pikachu and Pichu didn't, and I don't understand why they would give realistic fur to one of the mammalian Pokemon but not the other two.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

I somehow skipped this but I'm still doing it

Cuts:

All three feel utterly redundant

Changes to fighters:
is now a semi-clone taking moves from Ike as well and having her longer sword to better represent her canon self
is a echo fighter instead
is now a semi-clone, incorporating a few original moves
Fully decloned, using sorcery and swordplay in his moveset, he has dead mans volley and a teleport
Takes more moves from Sonic battle
alph is now an echo, instead of white and purple pikmin he has rock (good at breaking shields) and winged (home in on opponents)
rocket heels are replaced with rocket boots, **** that
female version is the default

Unique fighters:
Dixie Kong
Elma
Melia (Gotta add my girl)
Krystal
Bandana Dee
Isabelle
Lara Croft
Rayman
Crash
Dante
Medusa
Porky
Garchomp (Gotta add the fave)
Decidueye
Isaac
Tetra

Semi-clones:
Impa - clone but takes elements from and as well
Shadow - clone with mewtwo's teleport and new smash attacks based on sonic battle
Fiora - Elma semi-clone

Echo fighters:
- Jeanne
- Ken
- Octolings
- Black Shadow
- Galacta Knight
- Alph
- Funky

 

[WallyPalmer]

Woah. What if this got added in Smash? Seriously though, check it out!

Clearly, the only option for early 2010 viral pop sensations is...

Spoiler: Character Reveal

Protector of the Gays, Carly Rae Jepsen.

Being a veteran swordfighter, Carly Rae Jepsen has no shortage of moveset potential. She could even take inspiration from the various Fire Emblem characters as she Cuts to the Feeling in the honorable game of Smash! Not to say she'll be an exclusive Marth clone, no, her own source material could give her plenty of unique moves as well. Maybe venting her Boy Problems? Her final smash of course would be Cutting to the Feeling!

Carly Rae's Alt Colors could be references to her various outfits throughout the years. Her default being the Rainbow Sweater from her E•MO•TION album cover. Another could have her sweater in blue tones, and her face obscured by a stylish gradient, to reference E•MO•TION Side B. Another could be her pink blouse from the KISS cover. Another referencing her now-iconic Disco Ball Dress from Lollapalooza 2018 where she was first bestowed with a sword.

She could bring her various songs in her discography to smash as well, ranging from Bubblegum Pop to 80s Throwback Jams. Including, but not limited to: Tug of War, Call Me Maybe (and maybe a remix too?), Run Away With Me, and Cut to the Feeling (a must).

Her stage would the star-shaped set from the Cut to the Feeling Music video, which would be greyscaled and have a lot of flashing neon lights. Perhaps it could even take inspiration from her Lollapalooza Day 3 set, from the fateful day in which she received her weapon.

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Some people may say that PSY or Rebecca Black are better pics for the mid-2010's pop-artist character slot, but Carly Rae Jepsen's relevancy exceeds both of them currently, and she has the most moveset potential (with her sword).

Anyways, that's just my two cents on which character can fill this hotly-contestested but much needed rep spot. Of course, I'll be happy if any 2010's Viral Pop Senstation gets in. Just it better be Carly or else I'm protesting this game and everything Sakurai ever makes again.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

How about battle damaged characters, after reaching a certain damage, characters look like they're put through the ringer ripped clothing, chipped armor, scratches and scars, electrical sparks, etc.

Would be awesome!

 

[Deleted member]

Clearly, the only option for early 2010 viral pop sensations is...

Spoiler: Character Reveal

Protector of the Gays, Carly Rae Jepsen.

Being a veteran swordfighter, Carly Rae Jepsen has no shortage of moveset potential. She could even take inspiration from the various Fire Emblem characters as she Cuts to the Feeling in the honorable game of Smash! Not to say she'll be an exclusive Marth clone, no, her own source material could give her plenty of unique moves as well. Maybe venting her Boy Problems? Her final smash of course would be Cutting to the Feeling!

Carly Rae's Alt Colors could be references to her various outfits throughout the years. Her default being the Rainbow Sweater from her E•MO•TION album cover. Another could have her sweater in blue tones, and her face obscured by a stylish gradient, to reference E•MO•TION Side B. Another could be her pink blouse from the KISS cover. Another referencing her now-iconic Disco Ball Dress from Lollapalooza 2018 where she was first bestowed with a sword.

She could bring her various songs in her discography to smash as well, ranging from Bubblegum Pop to 80s Throwback Jams. Including, but not limited to: Tug of War, Call Me Maybe (and maybe a remix too?), Run Away With Me, and Cut to the Feeling (a must).

Her stage would the star-shaped set from the Cut to the Feeling Music video, which would be greyscaled and have a lot of flashing neon lights. Perhaps it could even take inspiration from her Lollapalooza Day 3 set, from the fateful day in which she received her weapon.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Some people may say that PSY or Rebecca Black are better pics for the mid-2010's pop-artist character slot, but Carly Rae Jepsen's relevancy exceeds both of them currently, and she has the most moveset potential (with her sword).

Anyways, that's just my two cents on which character can fill this hotly-contestested but much needed rep spot. Of course, I'll be happy if any 2010's Viral Pop Senstation gets in. Just it better be Carly or else I'm protesting this game and everything Sakurai ever makes again.

Another sword character? No thanks, I'm sticking with PSY as my viral pop-artist character.

 

[BrytonJ]

The more I look through the omega stages that have been shown off the more I'm ready to take Sakurai at his word when he says they're all exactly the same. Not that I thought he was lying but I think a lot of people weren't sure exactly whether that really actually meant they had the same proportions for real. Looking through the pics they definitely really actually seem to be the same as FD and a lot of them have changed a lot since smash 4. 3D Land and Spirit tracks now have platforms more like FD unlike their slimmer 3DS versions. Plus Wrecking Crew and Find Mii no longer have walls. I don't know but it seems like Omegas and Battlefield Forms might actually work as proper substitutes even in competitive play (the only unknown variable now is blast zones which doesn't seem like it'll be possible to see for a while.)

I think a lot of people have taken this to be true since he originally showed off battlefield forms but it's something I've been really worried about. After looking through what we know I feel more secure.

 

[Chrono.]

I don't want the same character to take up more than one slot.

lol slots.

What is this 2014 Smash 4 discussion?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I swear the conversation always gets batty around this time. Is there a reason? Is it midnight in the states?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I know that Square seems to be picky with music, but ugh I'd kill to just have Sakurai port this remix over for the Midgar stage from Dissida NT.

 

[praline]

I know that Square seems to be picky with music, but ugh I'd kill to just Sakurai port this remix over for the Midgar stage from Dissida NT.

I don’t understand why Square is like this. Final Fantasy has fantastic music. I guess if Dragon Quest got a rep their stage would probably have only 2 songs too.

 

[Luigi The President]

Complete control, eh?

I'd cut .
are now completely unique.
and are now re-merged.
I'd top off the roster with

.

Why would you cut any of those characters?
You're just shortening the roster for what seems to be no good reason.

 

[Wyoming]

I don’t understand why Square is like this. Final Fantasy has fantastic music. I guess if Dragon Quest got a rep their stage would probably have only 2 songs too.

The composer doesn't work for Square anymore and he's a demanding Dexter for rights.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

The remix of the FF10 theme from Dissida would fit Midgar too:

Basically I just got Dissida and I love a lot of the remixes done for it. And it makes me wish we had more FF music in Smash.

 

[PeridotGX]

Here's a fun game for you all.

Create a combo echo similar to Chrom. The proportions need to be similar to another character, but you can borrow attacks from other fighters regardless of proportions. Bonus points for cross-series efforts.

For example, Liquid Snake as a Snake echo. However, one of his specials will be the Duck Hunt one where he summons the outlaws. However, they will instead be guards from Shadow Moses Island. Instead of shouting "draw" they'll do the iconic "!" alert noise.

Metal Sonic as a Sonic echo but with Bowser. Jr's Down-B (Skinned as Silver Sonic) and Bowser's Final Smash (Metal Sonic Kai)

 

[Chrono.]

I don’t understand why Square is like this. Final Fantasy has fantastic music. I guess if Dragon Quest got a rep their stage would probably have only 2 songs too.

I heard it's more of a Nobuo Uematsu problem.

 

[Deleted member]

I know that Square seems to be picky with music, but ugh I'd kill to just Sakurai port this remix over for the Midgar stage from Dissida NT.

I know everyone's entitled to their opinion....but ew...that sounds awful.

Also, that's a remix of the battle theme for FF7; it has nothing to do with Midgar itself.

 

[praline]

The composer doesn't work for Square anymore and he's a demanding Dexter for rights.

I heard it's more of a Nobuo Uematsu problem.

Oh well that’s ****ty.

 

[Will]

I don’t understand why Square is like this. Final Fantasy has fantastic music. I guess if Dragon Quest got a rep their stage would probably have only 2 songs too.

Nah, the 2 tracks per stage gimmick was just to appease the 3DS version.
You only get one now.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I know everyone's entitled to their opinion....but ew...that sounds awful.

Also, that's a remix of the battle theme for FF7; it has nothing to do with Midgar itself.

Midgar is a setting in FF7.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Midgar.

 

[Chrono.]

The 'edgy' battle themes from Crisis Core would fit Midgar like a glove.

This is one I've always liked in particular.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

People who cut Richter are people who shouldn't be trusted

 

[ZephyrZ]

You know, it's probably a good thing Ridley was one of the first characters revealed. If he wasn't shown off yet, not only would there still be dumb arguments about his size constantly resurfacing but there'd also be a handful of extremely desperate fans trying to argue that it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to make him a Charizard echo.

It would be, btw. Ridley as a Zard echo would have been "Dillon as Sonic" levels of an awful idea.

 

[Wyoming]

People who cut Richter are people who shouldn't be trusted

Whenever I see fan created roster changes I realize fans would be horrible game directors.

 

[Deleted member]

It would be, btw. Ridley as a Zard echo would have been "Dillon as Sonic" levels of an awful idea.

But they both roll! Clearly, Dillon as a Sonic Echo makes the most sense.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Whenever I see fan created roster changes I realize fans would be horrible game directors.

Fans never actually know what's best for a series like 95 percent of the time.

 

[Zinith]

(also known as Zinith Zinith 's Wet Dream)

How many people logged off the site after seeing this?

 

[CannonStreak]

But they both roll! Clearly, Dillon as a Sonic Echo makes the most sense.

What would be Dillon's Up-B Spring move?

 

[Kirby Dragons]

lol slots.

What is this 2014 Smash 4 discussion?

Totally different context. I'm not talking about filling slots; I'm talking about making a character playable multiple times.

Why would you cut any of those characters?
You're just shortening the roster for what seems to be no good reason.

I just don't think they should be in the game.

 

[RandomAce]

But they both roll! Clearly, Dillon as a Sonic Echo makes the most sense.

I mean, rolls take up half of Sonic’s enitre makes moveset so I guess it wouldn’t THHAAAAT much of stretch.

It’s sad that two of Sonics specials are both literally the same move.

 

[Luigi The President]

Totally different context. I'm not talking about filling slots; I'm talking about making a character playable multiple times.

I just don't think they should be in the game.

Can I ask for an explanation as to why? Simply curious. Totally your opinion, I'd just like to hear another point of view, that's all.
From what I see, they just add a few more neat, well-liked characters and gameplay opportunities.

 

[Polan]

This is exactly why I would never trust this fanbase with Smash

a small part of me dies everytime i read "this is what i would do with smash" posts. its like 80 percent awful ideas and then 20 percent good ideas.

 

[Nethermoosen]

What would be Dillon's Up-B Spring move?

A cactus raises up to stab his ass

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

How many people logged off the site after seeing this?

Only 3 i think

 

[praline]

Complete control, eh?

I'd cut .
are now completely unique.
and are now re-merged.
I'd top off the roster with

.

No offense but like 95% of this is just bad.

 

[ZephyrZ]

I mean, rolls take up half of Sonic’s enitre makes moveset so I guess it wouldn’t THHAAAAT much of stretch.

It’s sad that two of Sonics specials are both literally the same move.

Dillon's roll works nothing like Sonic's. When he collides with an enemy, his forward momentum instantly stops and he can follow up with either a grind attack, claw attack or bounce backwards to safety. A fully charged roll also creates an AoE shockwave but can't be followed up. He's also protected when he curls up so it'd probably have armor to.

Not to mention all of Sonic's moves that involve kicking wouldn't work with Dillon's stubby little legs, and then there's also U-throw. And Dillon is a very slow runner.

It's a huge stretch.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Dillon's roll works nothing like Sonic's. When he collides with an enemy, his forward momentum instantly stops and he can follow up with either a grind attack, claw attack or bounce backwards to safety. A fully charged roll also creates an AoE shockwave but can't be followed up. He's also protected when he curls up so it'd probably have armor to.

Not to mention all of Sonic's moves that involve kicking wouldn't work with Dillon's stubby little legs, not to mention U-throw. And Dillon is a very slow runner.

It's a huge stretch.

 

[Deleted member]

Midgar is a setting in FF7.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Midgar.

lol alright, but its the Battle theme; not a Midgar theme

 

[BlueMagician]

Uematsu only has music to feed himself with, so it's not really bad or surprising that he's asking for money when people want to use his music. It's still a bit weird that we only got two tracks, though.

 

[KMDP]

Basically I just got Dissidia

Speaking of Dissidia NT, I got it Christmas last year and haven't really touched it since. >_>

It's installed on my PS4, at least, but I have yet to earn any trophies for it.

How many people logged off the site after seeing this?

All the people. Except a certain subset of people.

lol alright, but its the Battle theme; not a Midgar theme

Exsqueeze me?

You hear the Final Fantasy VII Battle theme whenever you enter a normal battle, this includes within Midgar.

 

[BlondeLombax]

I'm probably the only one who's noticed this, but thanks to his new eyes, Kraid looks really derpy in this game.

Spoiler: See for yourselves.

Not that it matters, since it's Kraid.