Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

Doesn't the stage editor have breakable blocks available to use in stages?

 

[IronTed]

I was thinking. Having battlefield, final destination and big battle field as seperate stages is a waste.

Make big battle field the stage, battlefield the battlefield form if the stage and final destination the omega version of the stage. Then use the free spaces for sector z and brainstar64

Realistically the UI is not the reason those stages aren't coming back.

 

[ThatGuyWhoKnowsNothing]

Aww you're not mainstream trash, but I don't know what Marshmello is. Can I add music to my edited Smash Ultimate? Then I want to add every Love Live song ever to the game

Oh, thank you! (I will often brag of my battle scars from weathering the vs battle wiki, so the kindness, however potentially sarcastic, was genuinely and pleasantly surprising, thank you)
P.S Marshmello is a super popular electronic DJ, in case you cared

 

[blackghost]

i think people are getting carried away with echoes honestly. i truly dont get how anyone could advocate for yet another FE echo. FE moveset being duplicated over and over is not a good look. people talk about proper representation in smash for franchises and characters when they discuss dark samus and shadow but FE as a series as the appearance in smash that its characters and weapons dont matter because their all the same sword using similar hairstyle character just duplicated for years.

i dont think smash has done a very good job with certain franchises and FE is at the top of the list. making clones of clones is dumb imo. and while i get Lucina being a clone as it fits her character and story the others dont and black knight being discussed now as a full like clone is honestly my breaking point. im not an FE fan but i do feel for them on this.

 

[Will]

(I will often brag of my battle scars from weathering the vs battle wiki)

**** you been doin' to my homeland boy?

 

[P.Kat]

Ken's alright, but I really, REALLY would love Akuma as a Ryu Echo.
Won't happen, but that's the dream.

As great as both of them are I'd like Sakura to be a Ryu echo, I'm hopeful for it

To add to my last question, you now have music control, knock youselfs out
Soundtrack has never been something that calls to me in video games, so just add every solo Marshmello song because it's nice background music and I'm mainstream trash

All the Okami (some Okamiden) tracks, Shantae, Xenoblade Chronicles X (and 2), Blazblue, Persona, RWBY, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy
,Brave Sword Braver Soul, and more Pokémon tracks with a better Cynthia Champion theme (but keep the piano intro)

 

[Crap-Zapper]

You know what I’m suprised Smash hasn’t done yet?

Stage destruction.

It's coming!
I have a credible source that tells me that this will be a gimmick for Son Goku from the Dragon Ball Z series.
After using Goku's Final Smash; Spirit Bomb, the stage will shatter.

He says that it does not matter the stage, it will break because Goku is naturally too OP in the first place. Once the Spirit Bomb hit, and the world shatters, the remaining players have to jump on floating rocks to stay alive, or else you will instantly fall to your death and become KO.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

Complete control, eh?

I'd cut .
are now completely unique.
and are now re-merged.
I'd top off the roster with

.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

It's coming!
I have a credible source that tells me that this will be a gimmick for Son Goku from the Dragon Ball Z series.
After using Goku's Final Smash; Spirit Bomb, the stage will shatter.

He says that it does not matter the stage, it will break because Goku is naturally too OP in the first place. Once the Spirit Bomb hit, and the world shatters, the remaining players have to jump on floating rocks to stay alive, or else you will instantly fall to your death and become KO.

No offense but it seems a little

 

[Deleted member]

Doesn't the stage editor have breakable blocks available to use in stages?

Nah, we had falling blocks in Brawl though.

 

[Will]

and are now re-merged.

Ew, why would you do that?

 

[Dee Dude]

It's coming!
I have a credible source that tells me that this will be a gimmick for Son Goku from the Dragon Ball Z series.
After using Goku's Final Smash; Spirit Bomb, the stage will shatter.

He says that it does not matter the stage, it will break because Goku is naturally too OP in the first place. Once the Spirit Bomb hit, and the world shatters, the remaining players have to jump on floating rocks to stay alive, or else you will instantly fall to your death and become KO.

...Keeping dreaming man...

But yeah, I want a similar mechanic from the DBZ fighting games in future Smash installments like that, where the knockout damage is so high the impact destroys part of a stage or a character can even make a crater.

 

[Deleted member]

and are now re-merged.

I'd cut

are now completely unique.

This is exactly why I would never trust this fanbase with Smash

 

[Crap-Zapper]

No offense but it seems a little

I don't know what you mean?
After the match finishes, the game will crash, and you have to go out, search for the seven dragon balls and wish for Goku to not join Smash in the first place. I tell you, it's legit.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Free space clearly isn't the issue preventing Sector Z and Brinstars inclusion, is the thing.

I wonder if those two stages will be in the first round of DLC.

And if any of the 15 missing stages are brought back as DLC, I hope they do where they're supposed to and not stuck on the end.

 

[Luigi The President]

I wonder if those two stages will be in the first round of DLC.

And if any of the 15 missing stages are brought back as DLC, I hope they do where they're supposed to and not stuck on the end.

I feel like there's issues preventing them in the first place, like an Ice Climbers deal, that can't really change despite fan demand.
No other reason not to bring them back.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Ew, why would you do that?

I don't want the same character to take up more than one slot. Plus, I thought them being transformations was a clean idea that made sense.

 

[Idon]

Ew, why would you do that?

Cuz lolgimmicks.

Also, if Pokemon Trainer has to deal with that **** everyone else gotta too. It's only """"fair"""""

 

[KMDP]

You know what I’m suprised Smash hasn’t done yet?

Stage destruction.

Heh heh! That'd be fun! Destroy the stage to knock your opponent off and grab the only hangable object floating around the stage to survive and win!

A rare screenshot of Final Destination after Stage Destruction.

Spoiler

 

[CannonStreak]

A rare screenshot of Final Destination after Stage Destruction.

Spoiler

LOL Good one! Even though that is from an anime, which I will not name yet, I could see it be something like that.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I feel like there's issues preventing them in the first place, like an Ice Climbers deal, that can't really change despite fan demand.
No other reason not to bring them back.

I think the only issue was dev time so they prioritised.

Sector Z and Zebes are close to their melee counterparts so could be cut,
Mushroom Kingdom Melee was MK64 with less gimmicks so the busier one won
Making Pokefloats out of existing models seems less belivable this time. (I think Pokefloats two with mons from all gens will be DLC personally)
Mute City Melee got replaced by Port Town (3DS version is labled SNES Mute City so maybe it was on the cards at some point)

And so on so forth.

 

[Will]

I don't want the same character to take up more than one slot.

?

A rare screenshot of Final Destination after Stage Destruction.

Spoiler

KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE

 

[Idon]

LOL Good one! Even though that is from an anime, which I will not name yet, I could see it be something like that.

Not name yet?
What?

 

[CannonStreak]

Not name yet?
What?

The image was in a spoiler. I don't want to ruin the spoiler for those who haven't seen it, even if it doesn't matter, anyway.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

I don't know what you mean?
After the match finishes, the game will crash, and you have to go out, search for the seven dragon balls and wish for Goku to not join Smash in the first place. I tell you, it's legit.

''So... is that really your wish...? Seems a little bit too... ''

 

[Guynamednelson]

Cuz lolgimmicks.

Also, if Pokemon Trainer has to deal with that **** everyone else gotta too. It's only """"fair"""""

The real reason why Pokemon Trainer has to deal with it is because "everyone is here" means he has to come back alongside his Pokemon.

 

[KMDP]

?


KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE

GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN WO MUKI

The image was in a spoiler. I don't want to ruin the spoiler for those who haven't seen it, even if it doesn't matter, anyway.

I actually put the image in a spoiler tag for size purposes. The fact that it's also an actual spoiler was happenstance.

 

[LetterO]

I don't want the same character to take up more than one slot. Plus, I thought them being transformations was a clean idea that made sense.

Hey guys remember how you could merge the echoes with the original characters to be switchable in the select screen?

 

[P.Kat]

Wrecking Crew

How about battle damaged characters, after reaching a certain damage, characters look like they're put through the ringer ripped clothing, chipped armor, scratches and scars, electrical sparks, etc.

 

[CannonStreak]

GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN WO MUKI

I actually put the image in a spoiler tag for size purposes. The fact that it's also an actual spoiler was happenstance.

Oh, I see. Well, there's that. I guess.

 

[Blue7113]

If I was in control:
I’d cut:
I’d remake:
I’d add: Andy, Isaac, Banjo and Kazooie, BWD, Skull Kid, Geno, Elma, Chorus Kids, Skull Kid, Masked Man as uniques
I’d add: Dixie Kong, Impa, Black Shadow, Isabelle, Ken, Felix as echoes

 

[Kirby Dragons]

?

Look back at my post; all three of them were on my cut list.

Hey guys remember how you could merge the echoes with the original characters to be switchable in the select screen?

I wasn't even talking about echoes.

 

[Idon]

The real reason why Pokemon Trainer has to deal with it is because "everyone is here" means he has to come back alongside his Pokemon.

So they're inexplicably tied together for the sake of a tagline, got it.

 

[Will]

Look back at my post; all three of them were on my cut list.

But think about it.
Instead of FLUDD Mario just transforms into ****ing Dr. Mario.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

How about battle damaged characters, after reaching a certain damage, characters look like they're put through the ringer ripped clothing, chipped armor, scratches and scars, electrical sparks, etc.

Well ... Olimar has his helmet crack.

 

[Will]

How about battle damaged characters, after reaching a certain damage, characters look like they're put through the ringer ripped clothing, chipped armor, scratches and scars, electrical sparks, etc.

Little Mac has bruises and-

Well ... Olimar has his helmet crack.

that.

 

[Deleted member]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

100% Control?

Well, first of all, I'd let them have creative control over everything they've already done and just make sure these last few characters made it in:
Crono (Chrono Trigger is still hailed as one of the best RPGs of all time and was an SNES exclusive. You may even say he's Timeless (puns!)
Erdrick (Dragon Quest was, and still is, a hugely popular RPG series in Japan. It may not be the character the West recognizes, but he's the most memorable for Japan; he gets in under my control)
Skull Kid (Zelda is Nintendo's 3rd biggest franchise behind Mario & Pokemon; another memorable, well-designed villain wouldn't hurt)
Impa (same reasoning as above; just a hero instead of villain. Also, under my control, she's not an Echo)
Isaac (Golden Sun deserves its time in the Sun (more puns!)
Necrozma (He was the final antagonist in an actual Boss style fight for the 'Ultra' versions; he'd make a good Pokemon rep)
Springman (ARMs was relatively successful on the Switch and there's actually no Switch exclusive characters yet, so why not?)

Last Echoes would be Isabelle for Villager, Black Shadow for Captain Falcon, a retooling of Ganondorf so he's no longer a semi-clone of Falcon, and Dixie Kong as a new Character that has Diddy's Monkey Flip as its only copied move with the rest being unique (and thus her own character rather than an Echo). She'd have a Bubblegum Gun rather than Peanut, but it would function differently; 'stunning' hit characters (and stunning herself if it explodes) instead of damaging them.

I can't comment on 'Spirits' or Story mode yet since we don't know what they're doing, but if it wasn't already planned, I'd see if they could get that implemented as well (though to be honest, it wouldn't receive a tremendous amount of attention since most people play either casually or competitively; not for story. They just like there to be one).

And that's what I'd do with 100% control.

 

[P.Kat]

This is exactly why I would never trust this fanbase with Smash

At least I would of given most of people here their most wanted characters. This is just Anarchy.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Ew, why would you do that?

The real reason why Pokemon Trainer has to deal with it is because "everyone is here" means he has to come back alongside his Pokemon.

...or because not everyone hates transformations.

I loved them, and I'm really happy that at least the Trainer's keeping them, even if Zelda lost hers. Trying to play strategically when needing Squirtle's speed/Ivy's projectiles/Zard's power versus the stamina/type mechanics made him really fun to play, but made for a really steep learning curve.

 

[IronTed]

I think the only issue was dev time so they prioritised.

Sector Z and Zebes are close to their melee counterparts so could be cut,
Mushroom Kingdom Melee was MK64 with less gimmicks so the busier one won
Making Pokefloats out of existing models seems less belivable this time. (I think Pokefloats two with mons from all gens will be DLC personally)
Mute City Melee got replaced by Port Town (3DS version is labled SNES Mute City so maybe it was on the cards at some point)

And so on so forth.

I would contend stage like Pokefloats were axed due to the rather unpopular nature of scrolling stages. Because of that they also would not be compelling DLC.

In general though, I doubt they would sell extremely similar stages as DLC, either.

Edit: I meant to quote your previous post as well, sorry