Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Zinith]

Looking through the smash bros site, there's a stage icon for R.O.B's stages in the .svg file for the icons on the site.

That seems to have more validity then the recent "leaks" at least, but I won't hold my breath still. R.O.B. desperately needs the stage though...

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I was 10 years old when I saw a commercial of real people wearing big headed, fluffy costumes of Mario, Yoshi, Pikachu and DK running around punching and kicking each other.

How old am I?

You're old fam

And I remember that when I was 6. Man did I enjoyed that so much seeing Pikachu randomly with the trio

 

[Untouch]

Possible confirmation we have more than 103 stages coming then?

It might just be a placeholder or something, R.O.B is the only fighter without a stage.

 

[Blargg888]

Alright, here's a real question here:

It's like 2025 and Smash 6 is finally revealed. Echoes are a thing, and so is Chrom, but Roy is out and for some psychic reason we know he's out of base for good. Is Chrom still considered an Echo? If Roy came back through DLC, would he be an Echo of his own Echo?

Well, if you want a serious answer, I'd say it depends on whether or not he's been changed.

If he's been diversified from Roy, then he'd no longer be Roy's echo, and could probably gain a designation of his own. However, if he's still the same, he'd probably still be considered a Roy Echo.

Remember that all Smash characters are now designated with a number, and that Echoes don't have a unique number. So if Chrom were to be readded, he'd probably still be internally classified as 25E. Whether or not that's still be the standard system for characters at that point, I don't know, but it's probably good to keep in mind.

Were Roy to be readded to the game later, he'd probably still be fighter #25, and Chrom would still be his Echo.

Chrom/Roy isn't the same as, say, Simon/Richter. They weren't introduced at the same time, Roy as a whole came first. Both his inclusion and his remade moveset were set in stone long before Chrom as a playable character ever graced Smash, so it wouldn't make sense to make Roy an Echo of Chrom, since Chrom is the one who takes from Roy.

 

[Will]

It might just be a placeholder or something, R.O.B is the only fighter without a stage.

I honestly wouldn't mind R.O.B. having a stage. It's just unfortunate that he only has Stack Up to rely on.

 

[Schnee117]

Ken's a pretty safe pick really, he's the perfect choice for an echo fighter so it doesn't do much for Verg really.

I don't own a xbox360 but i must find a way to play this. Thx guys.

It's on Steam and Xbox One.

 

[Deleted member]

Ken is trash, we need Ryu's true Echo!
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He lost the Dan color. It must be happening.

/s

 

[Zinith]

Even though the two games R.O.B. is associated with aren't exactly masterpieces, they can still translate to interesting stage ideas...

 

[SmashShadow]

Anyone else just think how much content we could get knowing that Sakurai is only working on 1 game instead of 2 games on separate consoles?

 

[Nethermoosen]

There's a recent user who shows up in the Yoshi sub-forum who displays his age as 48. I don't know if I believe that...

I don’t really doubt it. I know an older gamer here in my hometown. He bought me my first Marvel T-shirt when I was about 6. He’s gotta be in his late 50’s and he’s still a nerd. Lol

 

[Mc.Rad]

Even though the two games R.O.B. is associated with aren't exactly masterpieces, they can still translate to interesting stage ideas...

There's should be a stage where you need a real ROB to trigger the stage hazards... of course it be tournament legal since a real ROB takes forever to do something

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yall talking about age, meanwhile none of you even mention @Shizuka Kawai

 

[ZephyrZ]

You know how Sakurai said they were going to show every character before release? Well, when that happens, I kind of hope they do a new "Everyone is Here" trailer with all the newcomers. Guys like Wolf would also benefit from it since some of the models were a little rough in the first one.

Oh god I remember that commercial. I like how the fight starts with Mario stirring **** with my boi and the end of it is my boi bopping DK unconscious...

Your boy wishes he had the same level of bond with his Pokemon Trainer that Zard has with his.

 

[Will]

Who isn't a safe pick? This is a serious question, who's been suggested but not really a safe option?

- Ayumi
- Mach Rider
- Pretty much any NES character at this point
- Captain Rainbow
- Chrono
- any SEGA character that isn't from Sonic

yeah that's all i got

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Verg is saying Ken is in now.

Not surprising.

i can't tell if hes just commenting or actually saying whatever it is is missing ken

what was the orignal leak of what hes commenting on?


although i like to know from verge and loz18 about gardevoir and gothiette

 

[vaanrose]

Even before Richter I thought Ken was just as likely to happen as Shadow. Whether or not Vergeben is giving more info or just making a prediction, I have a feeling Ken and Shadow will simultaneously be the last two Echoes to be revealed.

Verg's saying Ken?

Well, not a hard thing to predict but, hell I want Ken.

Ken's a pretty safe pick really, he's the perfect choice for an echo fighter so it doesn't do much for Verg really.

Before this gets out of hand, Ken shows up on way, way fewer "leaks" than any of the other "safe" echoes. Should people have considered him an obvious pick? Probably.

But have they? No.

 

[KingBroly]

Un-Safe Picks:
- Waluigi
- Meowth
- Kraid
- Lord Fredrick
- Dr. Luigi

 

[Nethermoosen]

Yall talking about age, meanwhile none of you even mention @Shizuka Kawai

This whole being an actual member of Smashboards thing is so new and hip to me. I don’t know any of the history or notable members here.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

LST is in her 30s as well, I think? There's some other users I recall being in their early 30s. But in their late 40s just astounds me. We're all getting too old for this.

Nobody is too old for games. Too grumpy maybe but never too old

 

[Will]

Un-Safe Picks:
- Waluigi
- Meowth
- Kraid
- Lord Fredrick
- Dr. Luigi

But half of those are already deconfirmed, they need to be at least been referenced before in some shape or form by a niche audience.
well actually i guess that kinda doesnt make sense and makes me a hypocrite but deconfirms shouldnt be allowed

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

That seems to have more validity then the recent "leaks" at least, but I won't hold my breath still. R.O.B. desperately needs the stage though...

but................... he already has one...................

Spoiler

Why doesn't this stage have an icon here someone should fix that

 

[Nethermoosen]

Who isn't a safe pick? This is a serious question, who's been suggested but not really a safe option?

- Ayumi
- Mach Rider
- Pretty much any NES character at this point
- Captain Rainbow
- Chrono
- any SEGA character that isn't from Sonic

yeah that's all i got

Goku, I wouldn’t say Master Chief is actually safe despite being possible, .....Waluigi....

 

[Shroob]

Before this gets out of hand, Ken shows up on way, way fewer "leaks" than any of the other "safe" echoes. Should people have considered him an obvious pick? Probably.

But have they? No.

Oh, I know Ken isn't as safe as people assume.

But as someone who likes Street Fighter, I just REALLY want Ken.

 

[Will]

Why doesn't this stage have an icon here someone should fix that

Someone who's from the Brawl days, can you even explain why we have Brawl Stage emotes?

 

[Z25]

So who’s seen that collage of dante for smash hints?

Or more notably the one supposedly citing his trailer details.

Well if you know that leak, people are thinking maybe it’s real and we actually have lucina fighting the rathalos.

This actually makes a lot of sense and has me putting thought into this leak. I don’t fully buy it but it’s got my attention.

 

[Zinith]

but................... he already has one...................

Spoiler

Why doesn't this stage have an icon here someone should fix that

Is this some "woke" thing I'm not privy to?

 

[Mc.Rad]

Oh, I know Ken isn't as safe as people assume.

But as someone who likes Street Fighter, I just REALLY want Ken.

Personally, I'm more of an Akuma gal myself, but yeah I kinda want both tbh

 

[lightdrago]

inb4 Ken popping up in every new “leak” on 4chan now

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Who isn't a safe pick? This is a serious question, who's been suggested but not really a safe option?

- Ayumi
- Mach Rider
- Pretty much any NES character at this point
- Captain Rainbow
- Chrono
- any SEGA character that isn't from Sonic

yeah that's all i got

I'm gonna add Lip to that one since she's not a safe pick as of late. In fact, she has never appeared in a game yet so can't say she will
Lloyd Irvings is another one

 

[Deleted member]

Is this some "woke" thing I'm not privy to?

Mario Bros. acted as R.O.B.'s "home stage" in Brawl. He's fought there for his challenger match and in All-Star mode if the stage is unlocked.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Is this some "woke" thing I'm not privy to?

It was the stage you battled R.O.B. on in All-Star Mode in Brawl.

 

[MBRedboy31]

There's should be a stage where you need a real ROB to trigger the stage hazards... of course it be tournament legal since a real ROB takes forever to do something

Now that you mention it, what if there was a stage based on Stack-up where you can boss a giant R.O.B. in the background around by pressing pressure plates on the floor, and so, matching up blocks of your player color on the R.O.B’s stand would give you benefits like, say, very small stat boosts.

The controls for the R.O.B. would be very simplified; the buttons would just correspond to each column, and pressing a button for a column would make the R.O.B. quickly either pick up a block from the column or put a block in the column depending on if he’s holding a block already. It’ll be like playing two games at once!

 

[Zinith]

Mario Bros. acted as R.O.B.'s "home stage" in Brawl. He's fought there for his challenger match and in All-Star mode if the stage is unlocked.

It was the stage you battled R.O.B. on in All-Star Mode in Brawl.

Oh.....

So it was a bull**** move on Sakurai then...

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The following are likely not safe at all, especially considering what happened to Ashley.

1. Isabelle
2. Skull Kid
3. Kat & Ana

but................... he already has one...................

Spoiler

Why doesn't this stage have an icon here someone should fix that

Wrecking Crew also kind of serves as R.O.B.'s stage, as Gyromite was a BGM track option for that stage in Smash Wii U.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So who’s seen that collage of dante for smash hints?

Or more notably the one supposedly citing his trailer details.

Well if you know that leak, people are thinking maybe it’s real and we actually have lucina fighting the rathalos.

This actually makes a lot of sense and has me putting thought into this leak. I don’t fully buy it but it’s got my attention.

Wait, what's this about Dante hints?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Verg is saying Ken is in now.

Not surprising.

Not gonna hold my breath on Verge until he clarifies further. This sounds like speculation thus far.

But if he does have info for echos, that changes the scope on Isabelle's status as a unique character or echo a bit. Unless this info is not from the same reliable source that leaked Isabelle.

 

[Nazyrus]

Verg is saying Ken is in now.

Not surprising.

Huh… well that was predictable i guess, I was wondering when was Verg gonna speak up tho, he was kinda quiet for a while now. So he still has to be proven on Isabelle and Ken now… ok, maybe he now knows more about echoes than he did before?

Possible confirmation we have more than 103 stages coming then?

I don't know why people could doubt getting more than 103 stages. If it's possible to get more music for the obvious reason we get new music with newcomers, stages shouldn't be a surprise either. Of course, it depends on how sakurai treats every newcomer, maybe not all of them will get new music or new stages for that matter. Who knows at this point, it's up to the man himself.

 

[vaanrose]

Oh, I know Ken isn't as safe as people assume.

But as someone who likes Street Fighter, I just REALLY want Ken.

You misunderstand. I think Ken is really likely, which is why I've been paying attention to just how often he's left out of "leaks" and predictions. He's the least common "safe" echo choice by far. Which is to say, Ken isn't widely considered safe, even if some of us have thought he is. Sticking Ridley on a leak this is not.

 

[RileyXY1]

The following are likely not safe at all, especially considering what happened to Ashley.

1. Isabelle
2. Skull Kid
3. Kat & Ana

Wrecking Crew also kind of serves as R.O.B.'s stage, as Gyromite was a BGM track option for that stage in Smash Wii U.

Just because Ashley is an AT does not mean that they will be ATs.

 

[Will]

I wonder if Ken would play like baby-mode Ryu for people who hate inputs.