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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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How did you do that? I mean, not only were you able to upload an image, but you also made a roster, which I don't know how to do either. The only option I have for uploading an image is to paste the URL, which when I try to do that, it tells me that something went wrong and that I need to contact an administrator, so I'm stumped on what to do.
I made the roster with the Roster Maker. I usually upload images from my computer rather than doing it by URL. Are you sure you only have one option for images? There should be two icons on the insert image drop down, one for URL, the other for drag and drop/upload.
 

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Decided to do the "Most Wanted" List:
I'm really wanting more Street Fighter and anything from the Mario RPG games. I tried to keep all of the characters on here reasonable.
I'd say Dr. Wily and Sephiroth are more wanted bosses, but the latter of which isn't happening.

We'll probably get Akuma as a boss if Ken is an Echo, though.
 

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I made the roster with the Roster Maker. I usually upload images from my computer rather than doing it by URL. Are you sure you only have one option for images? There should be two icons on the insert image drop down, one for URL, the other for drag and drop/upload.
I'm sure there's only one. I'm looking at it right now. It has the URL box with the yellow 'Insert' box below, and that's it. No drag and drop option
 

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I'm sure there's only one. I'm looking at it right now. It has the URL box with the yellow 'Insert' box below, and that's it. No drag and drop option
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Ironically, I actually inserted these pictures by copying and pasting them into the text box instead of doing the steps shown in the pictures
 

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Tried sorting by series.

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tbh, I think the order by number is starting to grow on me.
Ignoring the fact that seeing Pooh nearly put me into cardiac arrest, it does seem like Sakurai is like "**** sorting by series, it's too hard now! Much easier to put them all in a neat chronological line." And I get that, especially with dlc, any order will just get screwed up, where as if it's done by number they can just be tacked on to the end.

I do think by number will be the official, and most clean CSS, but I think you'll have an option to sort by series, even if it's not a perfect shape. After all there has to be a menu section where you select to have echoes combined or not, so that could be an option too.
 
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I'm sure there's only one. I'm looking at it right now. It has the URL box with the yellow 'Insert' box below, and that's it. No drag and drop option
That's strange. Does your image drop down look like this?

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If so, click the icon to the left of the chain to access the drag and drop. I know that signatures don't allow for drag/drop and only allow for URL, but for forum posts, you should be fine.
 

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Tried sorting by series.

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tbh, I think the order by number is starting to grow on me.
Oh **** Star Butterfly and Psy are gonna be in Smash Ultimate

And yeah the number order fits a lot better (especially when echoes are hidden)
Something just popped in my mind.

What if the reason Final Fantasy still has two songs is because Midgar has songs from multiple Squeenix IPs now?
That seems cool, but also unlikely
 

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Ironically, I actually inserted these pictures by copying and pasting them into the text box instead of doing the steps shown in the pictures
I don't have an 'Attach files' option. It only says 'Insert quotes'.

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That's strange. Does your image drop down look like this?

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If so, click the icon to the left of the chain to access the drag and drop. I know that signatures don't allow for drag/drop and only allow for URL, but for forum posts, you should be fine.
Nope. I don't have either of those icons. There's nothing above the URL box.
 

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Konami had so many good franchises back then. Whilst I can't say much about Frogger (as I am not familiar with the franchise, here are some other Konami franchises that I would like to see either as a collectable trophy or assist trophy:

  • Goemon from the Mystical Ninja Goemon.
  • Power Pro-Kun from the Power Pro series.
  • Maoi from Gradius.
  • Yugo from Bloody Roar.
  • Bear Tank from Rakuga Kids.
  • Twinbee from Twinbee.
These are pretty cool so far, but if there's one more Konami franchise I want to see service for (speaking outside the Hudson stuff they own), it's Rocket Knight. Sparkster, the possum that jetted with the best of 'em used to be decently big in the 90s, pretty much slept for a while, then died from one divisive Xbox/PS3 outing.

Also, it's "Moai".
 

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I don't have an 'Attach files' option. It only says 'Insert quotes'.


Nope. I don't have either of those icons. There's nothing above the URL box.
That doesn't seem right, considering the option is always there no matter what. I've even changed the style of the forums to something else.

Still, you should be able to just copy and paste images into the text box.
 

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So Onett huh… I knew I was right to expect something Mother related… we just don't know if it's a newcomer yet, but definitely a boss or stage hazard in Onett.
If this guy isn't lying about what he is seeing, this should be interesting and kept in records for the time being. Not exactly a leak… or is it? DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon might want to keep an eye on this too.
 

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Hey, guys! I just found an awesome concept that I think has potential! The guy behind it calls it Hybrid Fighters!

https://www.deviantart.com/mast3r-r...TERS-HOPE-for-Smash-Assist-Trophies-759345887

To sum it up, Hybrid Fighters are characters that appear as Assist Trophies (Such as Waluigi, Ashley and Shovel Knight), but can also be playable Fighters. If you select a Hybrid Fighter, their Assist Trophy counterparts would not appear no matter how many Assist Trophies you summon. I’m personally a fan of this! What do you guys think?
 

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Hey, guys! I just found an awesome concept that I think has potential! The guy behind it calls it Hybrid Fighters!

https://www.deviantart.com/mast3r-r...TERS-HOPE-for-Smash-Assist-Trophies-759345887

To sum it up, Hybrid Fighters are characters that appear as Assist Trophies (Such as Waluigi, Ashley and Shovel Knight), but can also be playable Fighters. If you select a Hybrid Fighter, their Assist Trophy counterparts would not appear no matter how many Assist Trophies you summon. I’m personally a fan of this! What do you guys think?
That is interesting, in fact it reminds me of that one leak that talked about "Frankensteins" who are somewhat clones, but they pull from two or more character's movesets. It is ironic since Chrom is essentially that, so maybe this could work out
 

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I made the roster with the Roster Maker. I usually upload images from my computer rather than doing it by URL. Are you sure you only have one option for images? There should be two icons on the insert image drop down, one for URL, the other for drag and drop/upload.
Is there a way to open the Roster Maker after downloading it without using WinZip? Because my free trial for WinZip has expired and I don't want to have to pay for it
 

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Or these modernly relevant people could be DLC too?
Maybe but think about it like this... Why wasn't Inkling in Smash 4? It was by far the breakout series for the Wii U and demand was really high for DLC. They were still skipped over, however. I feel like Sakurai has done this a lot in Smash history. In Brawl, technically all the newcomers except Toon Link, Olimar, and Lucario came from the post 64 Smash poll. Characters like Wario, Dedede, Diddy, etc were very glaring omissions in Melee despite how well they did in the post 64 Smash poll. Like I pointed out earlier all the newcomers in Ultimate so far aside from Inkling have long, fandom histories, even if it wasn't apparent in the Smash Community.

For someone like Spring Man, Ultimate is hardly a make or break situation. The game was a success and it'll probably stay as the main breakout franchise for the Switch era. The "Spring Man for Smash" fandom is roughly a year old... It won't suddenly die if he misses out. I could say the same thing about Rex and Pyra. Xenoblade 2 has already outsold the original and some argue that it's even a better game. That's another character fanbase that's not going to evaporate. Both characters will likely be in demand until they are added. In conclusion, Sakurai going hardcore on the back catalogue of fan demands is probably a good thing and ultimately pushes newer characters closer to the top for future games.
 

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Is there a way to open the Roster Maker after downloading it without using WinZip? Because my free trial for WinZip has expired and I don't want to have to pay for it
Just get 7zip, it's what I use and it's free
 

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I very easily see classic frogger being an assist trophy... I imagine the screen having a game of frogger over lap it and cars just start hitting players.

Sorta like the Pong (not actually pong i know) assist trophy.
While that is a possibility, Frogger is far from obscure as Color TV Game 15 to make it in more than just an Assist Trophy.

Pac man is an iconic namco Mascot.
Castlevania is Casltevania.
Goemon was a poster boy for Konami all the way up to 2011.

Frogger was never on those levels. He is iconic, for sure.

Look at Super Bomberman R. There is a Goemon. No Frogger. Shows Konami's investment in the character.
Frogger is more iconic than Castlevania and Goemon combined TBH, to an extent to which Frogger is commonly referenced in American pop culture, sort of like Pac-Man.

As for Konami investing in the IP, they still utilize it, with the Frogger casino game that released last year:


Granted, it is not a favorable type of Frogger game, but it still shows the company's interest in the IP.
 
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That doesn't seem right, considering the option is always there no matter what. I've even changed the style of the forums to something else.

Still, you should be able to just copy and paste images into the text box.
It doesn't seem right, but that's how it is. I wonder if anyone else has this issue? Any way to solve it? I can just copy the URL and paste it to upload images that way, but I'd still like to know why I can't upload my own images.

Just get 7zip, it's what I use and it's free
Okay, after I download 7zip, what do I do?
 
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What if Evil Ryu was a Ryu Echo?

How would you all react?
That ain't Kentucky Fried Chickem
Hey, guys! I just found an awesome concept that I think has potential! The guy behind it calls it Hybrid Fighters!

https://www.deviantart.com/mast3r-r...TERS-HOPE-for-Smash-Assist-Trophies-759345887

To sum it up, Hybrid Fighters are characters that appear as Assist Trophies (Such as Waluigi, Ashley and Shovel Knight), but can also be playable Fighters. If you select a Hybrid Fighter, their Assist Trophy counterparts would not appear no matter how many Assist Trophies you summon. I’m personally a fan of this! What do you guys think?
So someone made a whole essay on something that can be summed up as "assist trophies can also be playable but their AT version is turned off while they're being used" which is the exact idea I proposed for Smash 4 DLC and got called crazy for it?
 

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So someone made a whole essay on something that can be summed up as "assist trophies can also be playable but their AT version is turned off while they're being used" which is the exact idea I proposed for Smash 4 DLC and got called crazy for it?
YOU thought of it, too? Huh. Learn something new every day I suppose. I mean, I wasn’t around on here when you made that idea, so...

But I personally think you’re not crazy. In fact, both you and the guy behind this are genius! :)
 

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So Onett huh… I knew I was right to expect something Mother related… we just don't know if it's a newcomer yet, but definitely a boss or stage hazard in Onett.
If this guy isn't lying about what he is seeing, this should be interesting and kept in records for the time being. Not exactly a leak… or is it? DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon might want to keep an eye on this too.
Reading the comments of the second tweet makes it seem like it's just music copyright issues. They couldn't record Onett, or Ness and Cloud victory screens .
 

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These are pretty cool so far, but if there's one more Konami franchise I want to see service for (speaking outside the Hudson stuff they own), it's Rocket Knight. Sparkster, the possum that jetted with the best of 'em used to be decently big in the 90s, pretty much slept for a while, then died from one divisive Xbox/PS3 outing.

Also, it's "Moai".
Konami is a gold mine of characters. Makes me surprised they have not made a smash clone yet.
 

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Either that or there's a game breaking glitch they haven't ironed out yet.
Maybe the Runaway Five colliding with King K. Rool causes the game to crash because unstoppable force vs immovable object.
I love the sound of this more than I should… (now i gotta listen to their music again.)
Altho Kapp'n 's assist trophy makes me think now that we could get the Runaway Five AT as well.
 
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We really need a Pokeball toggle and Assist Trophy toggle so I can turn off **** like Keldeo, Palkia, and other obnoxious ones.
 
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YOU thought of it, too? Huh. Learn something new every day I suppose. I mean, I wasn’t around on here when you made that idea, so...

But I personally think you’re not crazy. In fact, both you and the guy behind this are genius! :)
It really isn't anything special, just "assists shouldn't be considered impossibilities for DLC". Many ATs are assists because they couldn't make it in as fighters, nothing prevents Sakurai and his team from upgrading them into fully playable if they are given the chance to.
We really need a Pokeball toggle and Assist Trophy toggle so I can turn off **** like Keldeo, Palkia, and other obnoxious ones.
Everytime I see Keldeo I just, like, stop and accept my death because I know there's nothing I can do.
 

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Reading the comments of the second tweet makes it seem like it's just music copyright issues. They couldn't record Onett, or Ness and Cloud victory screens .
I might sound too hopefull… but i think that's something the nintendo reps would say there so that no one actually think or speculates a hint of something probably coming… Just saying, they might need ot be careful with what they say to not give away stuff. If it wasn't a character or something big, I feel they could just say away what the issue is.
 

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So seeing how they are intent on the numbering system, how would you feel if you had to unlock the characters in numerical order? Is your character far down or early?

I'd kind of like it in a way just because it would give so much motivation and excitement to get to the newcomers, but also be annoying at the same time lol.
 

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While that is a possibility, Frogger is far from obscure as Color TV Game 15 to make it in more than just an Assist Trophy.


Frogger is more iconic than Castlevania and Goemon combined TBH, to an extent to which Frogger is commonly referenced in American pop culture, sort of like Pac-Man.

As for Konami investing in the IP, they still utilize it, with the Frogger casino game that released last year:


Granted, it is not a favorable type of Frogger game, but it still shows the company's interest in the IP.
Yeah, it's possible for Frogger to be playable.
I just don't see it as that likely, and not based on his popularity. It just doesn't seem like Konami would get that many characters playable at this moment.
 
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Konami is a gold mine of characters. Makes me surprised they have not made a smash clone yet.
I'm not, they only care about pachinko machines nowadays.

They did do old massive crossovers of their games in a platformer style, but those were eons ago. Wai Wai World
 

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These are pretty cool so far, but if there's one more Konami franchise I want to see service for (speaking outside the Hudson stuff they own), it's Rocket Knight. Sparkster, the possum that jetted with the best of 'em used to be decently big in the 90s, pretty much slept for a while, then died from one divisive Xbox/PS3 outing.

Also, it's "Moai".
Thanks for the correction.
 
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