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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Bowserlick

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Skull Kid
Old idea from pre-Brawl I had for Falco

Down B: Places a diamond grid over his body which fades away.
Pressing Down B again, sends a show of meteors through the area where the grid was placed.
 

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Reading the comments of the second tweet makes it seem like it's just music copyright issues. They couldn't record Onett, or Ness and Cloud victory screens .
Did this happen before with Smash 4 or other smash games? maybe they just added new Mother music, like Pollyanna but with Lyrics and that's what is the reason of all this problem.
 

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Did this happen before with Smash 4 or other smash games? maybe they just added new Mother music, like Pollyanna but with Lyrics and that's what is the reason of all this problem.
From what I recall, yes. Not sure Nintendo-sanctioned events, but at least at EVO and other tournaments that Nintendo sponsored, there were stage restrictions due to copyright issues which pretty much led to omega stages just being banned in general at tourneys.
 

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Don't really want Skull kid tbh.

Plenty of more iconic Zelda villains to choose from imo.
 
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I bet Skull Kid did well in the ballot.

I now support him and think he has a strong chance at getting in.
 
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Yeah, it's possible for Frogger to be playable.
I just don't see it as that likely, and not based on his popularity. It just doesn't seem like Konami would get that many characters playable at this moment.
I personally see it as a real possibility, though I do not see it very likely, but you never know. If Sakurai is paying ample attention to adding third party picks from world-wide popular franchises, Frogger could be included. Even though the amount of Konami characters we have might be too much, we could still see more. Konami seems to be very open with using their IPs with what we have represented in Smash thus far with Castlevania, Metal Gear, and Bomberman present in the game.
 

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Did this happen before with Smash 4 or other smash games? maybe they just added new Mother music, like Pollyanna but with Lyrics and that's what is the reason of all this problem.
Oooor… maybe it's music of Mother 3, hinting a newcomer from that game, like Claus… I dunno. The fact that they don't say directly what the issue is, makes me think it's something that would hint something big or a new reveal, and they aren't allowed to.
 

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From my collection of hazy memories on rumors, my guesses are as follows:

- Four more newcomers
1. Isabelle
2. Gardevoir
3. Skull Kid
4. Geno
 

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Oooor… maybe it's music of Mother 3, hinting a newcomer from that game, like Claus… I dunno. The fact that they don't say directly what the issue is, makes me think it's something that would hint something big or a new reveal, and they aren't allowed to.
Claus or maybe... The Masked Man.
 

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Just realized that the ordered by appearance/number means that no matter what, any new character that is added through DLC will still be in the correct order. Nice.
 

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Just realized that the ordered by appearance/number means that no matter what, any new character that is added through DLC will still be in the correct order. Nice.
Yep, also I can't wait to see how weird it looks with like 70+ characters all squished together on one screen.
 

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Gardevoir imo would be well...underwhelming. Why her over more interesting Pokemons like Buzzwole or Incineroar besides having an echo? (Gothitelle)
She just feels out of place.

(EDIT: replaced overwhelming with underwhelming. My apologies.)
 
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While that is a possibility, Frogger is far from obscure as Color TV Game 15 to make it in more than just an Assist Trophy.


Frogger is more iconic than Castlevania and Goemon combined TBH, to an extent to which Frogger is commonly referenced in American pop culture, sort of like Pac-Man.

As for Konami investing in the IP, they still utilize it, with the Frogger casino game that released last year:


Granted, it is not a favorable type of Frogger game, but it still shows the company's interest in the IP.
I legit screamed when I saw those teeth.
 

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Gardevoir imo would be well...overwhelming. Why her over more interesting Pokemons like Buzzwole or Incineroar besides having an echo? (Gothitelle)
She just feels out of place.
I believe the Ultimate newcomers were all pulled from high places on the ballot.

Gen. 7 is too recent. (I would like Buzzwole)
 

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Gardevoir imo would be well...overwhelming. Why her over more interesting Pokemons like Buzzwole or Incineroar besides having an echo? (Gothitelle)
She just feels out of place.
Creating black holes isn't interesting?
 

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Kuon Kuon . If "Attach Files" isn't showing up, you can go to Forum Support and ask for help from the Administrators.

As an aside, Xiivi helped me with the exact same issue.
 

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When did captain toad get deconfirmed?
He's not, but I don't think he's very likely at all.
People are using him being in the background of New Donk as a deconfirmation, but Toon Link is still in the background of Spirit Train.

As long as Captain Toad doesn't play a tangible role in the stage and is just a background element, there's absolutely no reason to assume he's deconfirmed by this. I do think it lowers his chances significantly though, and his chances weren't very high to begin with.
 
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Gardevoir imo would be well...overwhelming. Why her over more interesting Pokemons like Buzzwole or Incineroar besides having an echo? (Gothitelle)
She just feels out of place.
That's the opposite of what overwhelming means.

But I would be hype for Gardevoir, I'm all up for Sakurai giving us odd Pokemon choices and it fits right in. And honestly, it's much more interesting to me then Incineroar and Buzzwole so it really is just a question of differing opinions.
 

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Would Bandana Dee be considered a Hero or a Rival?

He likes to help both Kirby and Dedede lol.
Probably a Rival...
Hard to say. Kirby is just too darn friendly. Only ones he doesn't get along with are beings of pure evil, in which case he kills them and them comes back and kills their souls for good measure.
 

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Hard to say. Kirby is just too darn friendly. Only ones he doesn't get along with are beings of pure evil, in which case he kills them and them comes back and kills their souls for good measure.
He is now a friend of Marx and Dark Meta Knight, Kirby's friendship power must stop!
 

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Would Bandana Dee be considered a Hero or a Rival?

He likes to help both Kirby and Dedede lol.
Probably a Rival...
Even though he's one of the Kirby Characters I don't want in Smash, he is still a good boy and shouldn't have his reputation ruined by him being called a Rival of Kirby.
 

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I just like to say that even though I am not an avid DK or Metroid fan, I have been rooting for K.rool and Ridley since Melee. And I am happy it finally happened!
 

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Would Bandana Dee be considered a Hero or a Rival?

He likes to help both Kirby and Dedede lol.
Probably a Rival...
I remember seeing it somewhere on here, but isn't Bandanna Dee the Luigi of Kirby? Like not as bad, but defintely more cautious in a fight. I can see that being played up more than hero/rival.

Correct me if I'm wrong though! I defintely think he's more a friend these days.
 

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Made two rosters, one having Echoes merged...
UltimateMerged Roster.png

...and one with Echoes unmerged.
UltimateUnmerged Roster.png

There's one more echo in the second set, in the interest of making neat looking rosters.
 
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