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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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No, no it is not.

The Sonic series has a ton of unused songs. Shadow the Hedgehog's OST, for instance. Whether they're remakes from previous games(E.G.G.M.A.N.'s, Heavy Dog's theme...) or newer ones like All Hail Shadow and I Am(All Of Me).
People can say what they want about Sonic as a franchise but it's got some of the best music hahaha
 
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Let's be fair, I could see Sega and Sakurai doing so. Especially Sega. When was the last time Shadow was unique? Let's be honest, Sonic Battle is the only one where he wasn't pretty much a modified Sonic in some way, at least that tied into the current games specifically. Sonic Chronicles is too, but that game appears to be non-canon(it's not that clear) and was... okay. In Shadow and 06, he's still clearly based upon the Sonic playstyle, but has a lot of unique differences too.

Then you have other games where he's basically Sonic again; Sonic Riders, Sonic Rivals, Sonic Heroes, Adventure 2, Forces, Black Knight(including the multiplayer), Secret Rings(mutiplayer only), Sonic Runners(unless he wasn't in the game and I forgot), and I think that was it for his playable status? Obviously the sequels to Riders and Rivals count too. I know there's Sonic All-Stars Racing, but that didn't make him super unique due to how racing games don't work that way(though Sonic R was kind of an exception to that, and even then, they weren't very different for many characters. Just not beyond carbon copies like many Kart Racing games).
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say Shadow's render in that image looks too boring.
Literally just go to Sonic Channel and look at his official art. Even if he's just standing there he's always doing some kind of interesting pose.


I think he only folds his arms in his SA2 and Heroes render.
This is what I'm talking about.

In that leak image, he appears to be just standing staticly, either with his arms down by his sides, crossed, or in a T-Pose.

Those images I could see being used as his Smash Image pose, easily; they're interesting.

Having Shadow just standing normally at a 3/4 angle? No way. I mean, just look at how dynamic Sonic's is! Look at how dynamic everyone else's is.
 
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Hey everyone, brand-new here. Been stalking the boards for a few weeks since Ultimate's reveal, and figured I may as well actually interact with the people just as excited for the game as me. I see leak season is getting tense, and having spent a good time looking at a good number of the many leaks being discussed, I guess I'll weigh in on how I feel.

loz18- I 99% trust whatever he says. As much information as he had before the official reveal, he definitely is on the inside in some capacity. Very hopeful for the alleged August direct showcasing new modes, if that falls through I'll begin to question my faith pretty heavily.

Vergeben- Tough 50/50 split on believability. Snake, Ice Climbers, and Ridley were fan-wanted requests, no matter how you slice it, but what he said was right in the end. Time will tell. loz18's support of him brings it to a 60/40 in favor of believing him, though.

"Okami" leak- As much as I want Amaterasu, and even just setting aside the use of 'Okami' as the character name, it just feels off. Out of 8 unique newcomers, 4 of them being 3rd-party sounds a little heavy, and there's not a single 'modern' Nintendo character among them- every Smash has included relevant characters, whether it be Ike and Lucario in Brawl, Greninja and Awakening characters in Smash 4, or even just Roy in Melee, every Smash at least tries to keep up with being a reflection of what's 'hip' in Nintendo at the time of release. Plus, Hilda and Dry Bowser feel fishy as echoes (I can totally buy the other 4 listed)- there's no particular desire for Hilda, just adding her for the sake of having a Zelda character feels tacky compared to how much people have actually wanted Daisy, and Dry Bowser doesn't make sense from the perspective of him being the same character as Bowser, not an entirely separate but similar character like all the other Echoes. The classic-like mode to obtain characters feels in line with loz18's leak, but otherwise, this all feels too fishy.

Personally, the leak I have the most 'faith' in is the riddle leak that cited King K. Rool as 'pic related' with the bloodshot eye. I can't quite decipher some of the ATs, or settle completely on the 'Anime', 'House', 'Science', or 'Cards' characters, but it feels like the one addressing the most possible fan demands as well as keeping up with 'modern' Nintendo. A grand total of 17 newcomers is definitely out of line for 'don't expect too many new characters', but as said before, this game has the longest development time of any Smash, and Sakurai has said the same for literally every game since Brawl.

Whatever turns out to be true, the game is already a dream come true for me. Ridley has been my most wanted since Brawl, and any more characters are just icing on top.
 

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took the liberty of rotating the photo so no one has to turn their head 90* sideways

If nothing else it's well made and I can't seem to see any renders that match this one online
I think people make leaks this this because they're desperate for the characters to be organized by series and if enough fakes list them this way it will come true.
 
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Hey everyone, brand-new here. Been stalking the boards for a few weeks since Ultimate's reveal, and figured I may as well actually interact with the people just as excited for the game as me. I see leak season is getting tense, and having spent a good time looking at a good number of the many leaks being discussed, I guess I'll weigh in on how I feel.

loz18- I 99% trust whatever he says. As much information as he had before the official reveal, he definitely is on the inside in some capacity. Very hopeful for the alleged August direct showcasing new modes, if that falls through I'll begin to question my faith pretty heavily.

Vergeben- Tough 50/50 split on believability. Snake, Ice Climbers, and Ridley were fan-wanted requests, no matter how you slice it, but what he said was right in the end. Time will tell. loz18's support of him brings it to a 60/40 in favor of believing him, though.

"Okami" leak- As much as I want Amaterasu, and even just setting aside the use of 'Okami' as the character name, it just feels off. Out of 8 unique newcomers, 4 of them being 3rd-party sounds a little heavy, and there's not a single 'modern' Nintendo character among them- every Smash has included relevant characters, whether it be Ike and Lucario in Brawl, Greninja and Awakening characters in Smash 4, or even just Roy in Melee, every Smash at least tries to keep up with being a reflection of what's 'hip' in Nintendo at the time of release. Plus, Hilda and Dry Bowser feel fishy as echoes (I can totally buy the other 4 listed)- there's no particular desire for Hilda, just adding her for the sake of having a Zelda character feels tacky compared to how much people have actually wanted Daisy, and Dry Bowser doesn't make sense from the perspective of him being the same character as Bowser, not an entirely separate but similar character like all the other Echoes. The classic-like mode to obtain characters feels in line with loz18's leak, but otherwise, this all feels too fishy.

Personally, the leak I have the most 'faith' in is the riddle leak that cited King K. Rool as 'pic related' with the bloodshot eye. I can't quite decipher some of the ATs, or settle completely on the 'Anime', 'House', 'Science', or 'Cards' characters, but it feels like the one addressing the most possible fan demands as well as keeping up with 'modern' Nintendo. A grand total of 17 newcomers is definitely out of line for 'don't expect too many new characters', but as said before, this game has the longest development time of any Smash, and Sakurai has said the same for literally every game since Brawl.

Whatever turns out to be true, the game is already a dream come true for me. Ridley has been my most wanted since Brawl, and any more characters are just icing on top.
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Anyways, I haven't provided my thoughts on the possibility of Isabelle being playable for Smash Ultimate.

Isabelle has become one of the main characters within the Animal Crossing series since she was an Assist Trophy in the Wii-U/3DS versions plus she also appeared as a playable racer in Mario Kart 8 and therefore it doesn't exactly surprise me if she is transitioned into a playable character for Ultimate.

DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon - did you document on this two month old leak below the spoiler tag by any chance:

The following information has been compiled over the past month and a half, all information coming from a singular source. Source will not be named for the sake of anonymity. The following list of information contains details on playable characters, character reworks and general information on the game in question. If you have any questions regarding the following content, I will do my best to respond, but do keep in mind that details are scarce. Nintendo is apparently doing their best to make sure that crucial information on this game doesn't get out to the masses before E3.

General Information:

-Super Smash Bros for Switch is indeed a sequel. The game's UI and Announcer are both brand new.

-Super Smash Bros Switch will borrow animations from Super Smash Bros 4, but all character models are remade from scratch.

-There are no planned cuts for Super Smash Bros Switch. The three clone characters, (Dark Pit, Lucina, Dr. Mario), will all be returning. There is no information on how much of their moveset will be the same.

-There is no current information on new modes for the game.

-The big draw with newcomers this time around is that they're mostly attuned to fan demand, both feedback from the community but, more importantly, the Smash Bros Fighter Ballot.

Playable Characters:

According to my source, this is apparently the most difficult subject to find information on. As a result, they provided me a small list of characters, some that they KNOW are going to be playable and some that sound like they'd fit the playable role but have no confirmation on whether or not they are as of this time.

Confirmed Playable:

Inkling:

-Design and colors are based off of Splatoon 1

-Long range fighter with slow movement speed, can improve mobility with ink

-ink stays on the ground and drastically improves movement speed with their side special

Ice Climbers:

-No new moves, only balance changes

-Nana now does less damage

-Nana cannot grab the opponent

Wolf:

-Both heavier and stronger

-aerial laser is now angled down, blade is a light meteor smash

-mobility is more sluggish

Captain Toad:

-Trapper/set-up character who excels at controlling the stage

-uses the likes of minecarts, treasure stars and more to attack

-Final Smash features the Draggadon

Ridley:

-Aerial fighter that can transition between the ground and the air seamlessly

-both taller than Bowser and Wider than DK (but not by much)

-has long range, but can be punished by alot of attacks

A New Pokemon:

My source is confused on this, as instead of being given a playable Pokemon name, he was given a list of Pokemon names that would be appearing in the game. While there is no info if any of these Pokemon will be playable, several Pokemon stood out from the list, namely the likes of Decidueye, Tapu Koko, Mimikyu, Incineroar, Necrozma, Marshadow and Zeraora.

Simon Belmont:

-Ranged character who uses a long-range whip as his main weapon

-Has access to Castlevania items, including throwing daggers, crosses and holy water

-Final Smash is unique to Smash Bros

Heihachi Mishima:

-A Combo character who makes up for a lack of range with powerful attacks

-All attacks are taken directly from Tekken

-Certain attacks can be chained into one another for combos, like jab combo into side tilt.

-Final Smash is taken out of Tekken 7, being Heihachi's rage art

Unconfirmed:

King K.Rool

Marx

Krystal

Rex & Pyra

Monster Hunter

Isabelle

Character Reworks/Changes:

-Certain characters will be receiving moveset changes with Super Smash Bros Switch

-Zelda and Sheik are staying seperate characters, as are Samus and Zero Suit Samus.

-All of the eight original characters are receving changes. The few examples given are Mario receiving Cappy, Donkey Kong is getting a new final smash and Samus receiving her melee counter from Metroid: Samus Returns

-There are no reports on how much Link has changed, but it is confirmed that Champion Link is the main Link in Smash Switch. There is no Twilight Princess Link

-Samus and Fox both have updated designs. Samus has her design from Samus Returns and Fox's design is taken from StarFox Zero

-Donkey Kong and Bowser now have voices similar to their in-game counterparts as opposed to animalistic grunts. Nothing has been said regarding Diddy Kong

-There is no current mentioning of a Breath of the Wild Zelda

-Wario's shoulder tackle is returning

-There is currently nothing on changes for characters like Ganondorf, Falco and Jigglypuff

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...sh_bros_for_switch_leaks_characters/?sort=new

Although this one contains Simon Belmont, it was unsure whether Isabelle is playable or not. Even though parts of the information is questionable, I thought it might be worth a mention.
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That leak is already disproven though. Samus didn't recieve her melee counter nor did she get a redesign. Also, Sakurai already disproved all pre-E3 leaks, so it's even more dead.
 

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I'm still taking Verg with a grain of salt, though having both Simon and Isabelle would be rad. I'm more inclined to believe loz, as August seems like a good time for a Nintendo direct, and one of the single-player modes being the main way to unlock characters makes a lot of sense, as they're said to be more streamlined.

Just my take on it though.
 

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*Character has an uninteresting pose for his art.

"lol, yeah this is totally fake"


Not that I think the Shadow "leak" is real or anything, but that's a pretty dumb reason to dismiss it.
Hey everyone, brand-new here. Been stalking the boards for a few weeks since Ultimate's reveal, and figured I may as well actually interact with the people just as excited for the game as me. I see leak season is getting tense, and having spent a good time looking at a good number of the many leaks being discussed, I guess I'll weigh in on how I feel.

loz18- I 99% trust whatever he says. As much information as he had before the official reveal, he definitely is on the inside in some capacity. Very hopeful for the alleged August direct showcasing new modes, if that falls through I'll begin to question my faith pretty heavily.

Vergeben- Tough 50/50 split on believability. Snake, Ice Climbers, and Ridley were fan-wanted requests, no matter how you slice it, but what he said was right in the end. Time will tell. loz18's support of him brings it to a 60/40 in favor of believing him, though.

"Okami" leak- As much as I want Amaterasu, and even just setting aside the use of 'Okami' as the character name, it just feels off. Out of 8 unique newcomers, 4 of them being 3rd-party sounds a little heavy, and there's not a single 'modern' Nintendo character among them- every Smash has included relevant characters, whether it be Ike and Lucario in Brawl, Greninja and Awakening characters in Smash 4, or even just Roy in Melee, every Smash at least tries to keep up with being a reflection of what's 'hip' in Nintendo at the time of release. Plus, Hilda and Dry Bowser feel fishy as echoes (I can totally buy the other 4 listed)- there's no particular desire for Hilda, just adding her for the sake of having a Zelda character feels tacky compared to how much people have actually wanted Daisy, and Dry Bowser doesn't make sense from the perspective of him being the same character as Bowser, not an entirely separate but similar character like all the other Echoes. The classic-like mode to obtain characters feels in line with loz18's leak, but otherwise, this all feels too fishy.

Personally, the leak I have the most 'faith' in is the riddle leak that cited King K. Rool as 'pic related' with the bloodshot eye. I can't quite decipher some of the ATs, or settle completely on the 'Anime', 'House', 'Science', or 'Cards' characters, but it feels like the one addressing the most possible fan demands as well as keeping up with 'modern' Nintendo. A grand total of 17 newcomers is definitely out of line for 'don't expect too many new characters', but as said before, this game has the longest development time of any Smash, and Sakurai has said the same for literally every game since Brawl.

Whatever turns out to be true, the game is already a dream come true for me. Ridley has been my most wanted since Brawl, and any more characters are just icing on top.
Welcome to the madness fun.
 

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Hey everyone, brand-new here. Been stalking the boards for a few weeks since Ultimate's reveal, and figured I may as well actually interact with the people just as excited for the game as me. I see leak season is getting tense, and having spent a good time looking at a good number of the many leaks being discussed, I guess I'll weigh in on how I feel.

loz18- I 99% trust whatever he says. As much information as he had before the official reveal, he definitely is on the inside in some capacity. Very hopeful for the alleged August direct showcasing new modes, if that falls through I'll begin to question my faith pretty heavily.

Vergeben- Tough 50/50 split on believability. Snake, Ice Climbers, and Ridley were fan-wanted requests, no matter how you slice it, but what he said was right in the end. Time will tell. loz18's support of him brings it to a 60/40 in favor of believing him, though.

"Okami" leak- As much as I want Amaterasu, and even just setting aside the use of 'Okami' as the character name, it just feels off. Out of 8 unique newcomers, 4 of them being 3rd-party sounds a little heavy, and there's not a single 'modern' Nintendo character among them- every Smash has included relevant characters, whether it be Ike and Lucario in Brawl, Greninja and Awakening characters in Smash 4, or even just Roy in Melee, every Smash at least tries to keep up with being a reflection of what's 'hip' in Nintendo at the time of release. Plus, Hilda and Dry Bowser feel fishy as echoes (I can totally buy the other 4 listed)- there's no particular desire for Hilda, just adding her for the sake of having a Zelda character feels tacky compared to how much people have actually wanted Daisy, and Dry Bowser doesn't make sense from the perspective of him being the same character as Bowser, not an entirely separate but similar character like all the other Echoes. The classic-like mode to obtain characters feels in line with loz18's leak, but otherwise, this all feels too fishy.

Personally, the leak I have the most 'faith' in is the riddle leak that cited King K. Rool as 'pic related' with the bloodshot eye. I can't quite decipher some of the ATs, or settle completely on the 'Anime', 'House', 'Science', or 'Cards' characters, but it feels like the one addressing the most possible fan demands as well as keeping up with 'modern' Nintendo. A grand total of 17 newcomers is definitely out of line for 'don't expect too many new characters', but as said before, this game has the longest development time of any Smash, and Sakurai has said the same for literally every game since Brawl.

Whatever turns out to be true, the game is already a dream come true for me. Ridley has been my most wanted since Brawl, and any more characters are just icing on top.
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B-but... I also want them organized by series...
They need to be organized based on their most significant colors so that, when you have every character unlocked, they form a beautiful mosaic that we can all appreciate every time we see the CSS.
 
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*Character has an uninteresting pose for his art.

"lol, yeah this is totally fake"

Not that I think the Shadow "leak" is real or anything, but that's a pretty dumb reason to dismiss it.
For Smash Ultimate, it kinda isn't a dumb reason to dismiss a leak.

All the Renders for the characters for this game are interesting, the least interesting are Marth, Corrin, and Ryu, and even then they display a certain amount of personality to them.

Marth and Corrin's display finesse in their stance, and both of them abide by one of the primary rules of modelling poses: putting it as simply as I can "No Symmetry".

Ryu's has him standing with his arms folded, but even then there are interesting points about it: the wind is blowing his Hachimaki and Obi dramatically, and he is angled in such a way that it looks like his gaze is bearing down on you, this sums up his stoic, serious personality excellently.

As I said before, having him (Shadow) just just standing there, doing nothing interesting, does not fit with any of the other renders for this game in particular.
 
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Also, Sakurai already disproved all pre-E3 leaks, so it's even more dead.
This is an extrapolation. As already noted, all of the E3 content leaked briefly before the presentation. "Didn't leak" from Sakurai may very well have just meant that the major surprises didn't leak credibly to a large audience, not that not a single person leaked any content.
 
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Hey everyone, brand-new here. Been stalking the boards for a few weeks since Ultimate's reveal, and figured I may as well actually interact with the people just as excited for the game as me. I see leak season is getting tense, and having spent a good time looking at a good number of the many leaks being discussed, I guess I'll weigh in on how I feel.

loz18- I 99% trust whatever he says. As much information as he had before the official reveal, he definitely is on the inside in some capacity. Very hopeful for the alleged August direct showcasing new modes, if that falls through I'll begin to question my faith pretty heavily.

Vergeben- Tough 50/50 split on believability. Snake, Ice Climbers, and Ridley were fan-wanted requests, no matter how you slice it, but what he said was right in the end. Time will tell. loz18's support of him brings it to a 60/40 in favor of believing him, though.

"Okami" leak- As much as I want Amaterasu, and even just setting aside the use of 'Okami' as the character name, it just feels off. Out of 8 unique newcomers, 4 of them being 3rd-party sounds a little heavy, and there's not a single 'modern' Nintendo character among them- every Smash has included relevant characters, whether it be Ike and Lucario in Brawl, Greninja and Awakening characters in Smash 4, or even just Roy in Melee, every Smash at least tries to keep up with being a reflection of what's 'hip' in Nintendo at the time of release. Plus, Hilda and Dry Bowser feel fishy as echoes (I can totally buy the other 4 listed)- there's no particular desire for Hilda, just adding her for the sake of having a Zelda character feels tacky compared to how much people have actually wanted Daisy, and Dry Bowser doesn't make sense from the perspective of him being the same character as Bowser, not an entirely separate but similar character like all the other Echoes. The classic-like mode to obtain characters feels in line with loz18's leak, but otherwise, this all feels too fishy.

Personally, the leak I have the most 'faith' in is the riddle leak that cited King K. Rool as 'pic related' with the bloodshot eye. I can't quite decipher some of the ATs, or settle completely on the 'Anime', 'House', 'Science', or 'Cards' characters, but it feels like the one addressing the most possible fan demands as well as keeping up with 'modern' Nintendo. A grand total of 17 newcomers is definitely out of line for 'don't expect too many new characters', but as said before, this game has the longest development time of any Smash, and Sakurai has said the same for literally every game since Brawl.

Whatever turns out to be true, the game is already a dream come true for me. Ridley has been my most wanted since Brawl, and any more characters are just icing on top.
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*Character has an uninteresting pose for his art.

"lol, yeah this is totally fake"


Not that I think the Shadow "leak" is real or anything, but that's a pretty dumb reason to dismiss it.


Welcome to the madness fun.
That's not the only reason though. There's some other things, namely that it looks like the Generations model. But the fact they couldn't tried to make it look a bit unique makes it seem lazy. It's just slapped on there, is what I'm getting at.

I didn't really think my dumb off-hand comment on the pose would get that much discussion out of people though.
 
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I'm not really bothered by which characters will/won't be in the game all that much, but I will just say this about the character order. Already in 4, when people look to pick characters they don't pick frequently, you see people constantly fail to find a given character for often comical amounts of time. I don't think the number system will really change that much, but at least people will start in the right general region? Honestly I don't envy whoever has to make the menu interface for picking between this many characters; it just seems like it would so naturally turn into a mess...
 

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"New character confirmed! Aerith from Final Fantasy 7! She's at the bottom of the roster because her official height is 6 feet under!"
Aerith's final smash is summoning Sepiroth to stab the opponent from above.
 
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took the liberty of rotating the photo so no one has to turn their head 90* sideways

If nothing else it's well made and I can't seem to see any renders that match this one online
Obviously fake at the first glance since it doesn't show Palutena's halo
 
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Aerith's final smash is summoning Sepiroth to stab the opponent from above.
Nah, Aerith will start praying and Sephiroth will fall from the sky and stab her. If anyone else gets in the way, they die instead. Otherwise, Aerith dies.
 
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I'm not really bothered by which characters will/won't be in the game all that much, but I will just say this about the character order. Already in 4, when people look to pick characters they don't pick frequently, you see people constantly fail to find a given character for often comical amounts of time. I don't think the number system will really change that much, but at least people will start in the right general region? Honestly I don't envy whoever has to make the menu interface for picking between this many characters; it just seems like it would so naturally turn into a mess...
Hah, yep, that happens to me, too. I actually think ordering characters by their introduction to the series would make it easier to find the character I want to play. That's partly because I've been following Smash for so long that I can easily identify who was introduced when, but also because that would mean it'd be in the same order as the official site, which I've spent... a lot more time on than I probably should have. :laugh:
 
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Canon height or Smash height?
Canon height. So, Olimar at the bottom for being the shortest, etc.

"New character confirmed! Aerith from Final Fantasy 7! She's at the bottom of the roster because her official height is 6 feet under!"
I damn near spit out my tea holy ****
 

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Hah, yep, that happens to me, too. I actually think ordering characters by their introduction to the series would make it easier to find the character I want to play. That's partly because I've been following Smash for so long that I can easily identify who was introduced when, but also because that would mean it'd be in the same order as the official site, which I've spent... a lot more time on than I probably should have. :laugh:
I can see why people would find it odd, but I don't mind the order Especially since my boi is on the top
 

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took the liberty of rotating the photo so no one has to turn their head 90* sideways

If nothing else it's well made and I can't seem to see any renders that match this one online
Diagnosis: Fake

Man, these fake leaks keep coming left and right. It would be sweet to get some official stuff soon.
 

KMDP

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About the character select screen, people have been saying there should be multiple sort options. Well, I put some thought (about 10 minutes) into what those sort options should be...

Sort by Number (Orders the roster based on their official designation number, the default option)
Sort by Series (Orders the roster based on the Smash Website's series order)
Sort Alphabetically (Does exactly what it says)
Sort by Series Debut (Orders the roster based on the debut year of their series, like the Brawl All-Star Mode)
Sort by Character Debut (Orders the roster based on the characters' debut years, like the Smash 4 All-Star Mode)
Sort by Colour (Orders the characters based on main colour; Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Pink, Black, White, etc)
Sort Randomly (Does exactly what it says)
Special Sort (64) (Orders the roster based on the Character select screen from 64, with the original 12 in the centre-top section)
Special Sort (Melee) (Orders the roster based on the Character select screen from Melee)
Special Sort (Brawl)
Special Sort (Wii U)
Custom Sort 1/2/3 (The player can set up special sort orders in the Options)

After the game releases, Nintendo holds a Smash Popularity Poll, and after it ends a new Sort Option becomes available: Sort By Popularity
 
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