Smash UK Discussion Thread - Check first post for tournaments, facebook info and videos!

[jjlinyard]

fuzzy : any info on what happens about our SvB pre-orderd entrance???

 

[Unreal91]

It takes more tech skill to insult brawl then it does to play it.

LOOOL

I love you....no homo

My melee at home is upset to have an affiliation with brawl. I keep the brawl I got for Xmas inside a lead box to make sure it doesn't radiate any of it's failure onto my melee.

ROFL

I love you even more....potentially homo (XD)

 

[Fuzzyness]

i dont think there are refunds for svb :/ not much I can do

 

[Blinky]

I see alot of bias in this thread. Melee is clearly more balanced then Brawl.
Anyway, I sadly can't make the next London event due to going back to uni, but I will visit again in the near future hopefully. Thanks to Fuzzy and TC for housing me at the last one, and all those who gave me games and advice, you know who you are.

 

[Bullet Bill]

btw are there gonna be pools for the next one? One of the things I noticed is that with just the bracket then one hold up will hold back the whole event. With pools everyone knows who they need to play and then when it comes to the bracket, there are less players which makes life easier

 

[Deathgazer]

okay, it looks like im going to go to university of Hertfordshire to do mechanical engineering because i messed up on my a levels a bit.

Does anyone know any smashers that go to that uni/ live near there? I know KING kinda lives there lol.

 

[Tamoo]

Ben: We just need to make sure the matches are done straight away when possible tbh, alot of people were just ****ing around in friendlies when they shouldve been playing theyre matches. Fuzzy needs help, some people need to go round making sure that matches are being played, I personally dont mind doing this as I was kinda doing this last tournament as well.
And unlucky on ur alevels adrian, I kinda messed mine up as well, but retakes ftw i guess

 

[Bullet Bill]

my A levels were complete ****e.

Tamoo- yeah I agree. I also wouldn't mind making sure matches are being played

 

[COEY]

Ben: We just need to make sure the matches are done straight away when possible tbh, alot of people were just ****ing around in friendlies when they shouldve been playing theyre matches. Fuzzy needs help, some people need to go round making sure that matches are being played, I personally dont mind doing this as I was kinda doing this last tournament as well.
And unlucky on ur alevels adrian, I kinda messed mine up as well, but retakes ftw i guess

quite right mr tamoo, the only reason pools moves faster usually is because a pool usually organises itself and the other players are ready to play the next game afterwards. just a bracket means less overall games, and as long as everyone immediately lets whoever's in charge aware of their score then it should run very efficiently and quickly. it's down to everyone, everyone can make that bit of difference.

pools is a good idea though just because it gives better value for money for a majority of the players, especially the ones who get screwed over with a bad/tough bracket.

 

[MakoMako]

The reason why lots of people messed around and played friendlies during the tournament is because they didn't give a **** about the tournament because it just isn't worth caring about. The small pots and lack of people who are confident in their skills just indicate a casual environment, I'm going to try and keep pools out so there is more time for friendlies and gaining experience rather than wasting 6 hours of my time with a ******** £50 tourney.
Things will be taken more seriously when we start seeing pots of around £150.

 

[-BlAz3-]

yeah..makos right

why do you think we failed so hard at tsl in comparison to other countries? cuz are enviroment is way to casual and tsl was like a culture shock for us...such a competetive enviroment am i right?

the entry fee is absolutely stupid. why cant u just make it a fiver. PEOPLE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAVE 1 POUND EVERY WEEK FOR 4 WEEKS (2 pounds on one week...OH NO) and your set. i dont see what the problem is..seriously.

 

[Tamoo]

why did we fail at tsl?
Inexperience at the moment. I dont think its possible to go from the UK scene to the European scene and make an impact straight away. Its a totally different environment and everyone on that trip except for fuzzy (who did very well) had never experienced anything of that high competition before. I dont think our environment is too casual. There are many of us who strive to improve, and i believe every person who went to Lyon was of that mentality, along with many who didnt. Its rather naive of you to expect our best brawlers to go over there and **** in a similar fashion to what they do at home, in their first attempt.

And tbh, the pot should only increase if pools are added, and im pretty confident that most ppl dont go for the money anyway, more for the experience of competetive tournament play, and the opportunity to place well and prove your worth. I personally enjoyed the brackets system, getting sent to losers so early gave me a more competetive edge which helped me in my gameplay, rather than the relaxation surrounding the pools

 

[MakoMako]

Do you really think it would be fair to have best of 1 pools if there is so much in the pot, cuz you know full well there wont be enough time for best of 3 unless the pools are like 4 people each which is no different from having brackets only.

 

[Calzorz]

oh this is geting intresting , i totally agree with more pot as mako and blazin stated but its not up to me , and reason we did bad in tsl is nothing to do with weve not had competition be4 etc weve all had that lvl of competition i know why me kira mako ixis and auron did terrible , because we had 3 hours sleep and walked 50mins without a drink half of us without a shower got to venue no warmup and mako was hungover xD , or else i can gaurentee we would of placed higher thats the main reasons for placing bad

 

[Tamoo]

no it would not be fair to have bo1 pools with a larger entry fee, it would have to be bo3, which is probs why the best option is to keep it as it was last tournament and go straight to brackets, keep the pot the same, and make sure things are running smoother by people helping fuzzy keep track of the games. That way, it may be possible to squeeze in a doubles tournament.
As i said, I dont think that there's any need to increase the pot at all, and the last system was fine, but if it were to be increased, so should the minimum number of games you get to play

Edit: And calz is actually very right there, we were not prepared for the conditions in lyon at all. Some of us had no euros, and hence no drink or food, it was hot, sweaty, sleeping conditions were awful for some of us because we were not prepared for that. I think we will all learn from our mistakes if we do go to another european tournament, and do much better

 

[COEY]

The reason why lots of people messed around and played friendlies during the tournament is because they didn't give a **** about the tournament because it just isn't worth caring about. The small pots and lack of people who are confident in their skills just indicate a casual environment, I'm going to try and keep pools out so there is more time for friendlies and gaining experience rather than wasting 6 hours of my time with a ******** £50 tourney.
Things will be taken more seriously when we start seeing pots of around £150.

I'm sure everyone who attended was aware beforehand of the entry fee and roughly knew the expected attendance. Which means they could have had an approx idea of prize money before walking out the door. If people really cared only about the money then they wouldn't have show up. Personally i can guess the reason why they wouldnt care, many were probably already out and no ruling was in place to stop friendlies, which means no reason not to keep playing until someone tells you not to. This is disruptive and quite selfish, and if you expect to have many future events then it's not a good idea. For start the faster a tournament progresses then the faster tv's will free up for friendlies. It's not rocket science!

When i start my ranbats in 2 weeks time i am instigating a 3 strikes rule to stop friendlies happening. But thanks to your post i realise i will have to be severe, so now not only will players who get 3 strikes be disqualified from ALL other events, they will also NOT BE INVITED TO ATTEND A MONTH LATER WHEN I RUN MY NEXT ONE. Repeat offenders will recieve PERMANENT BANS! I invite Charles to also instigate this ruling incase your thinking how it effects you. So yea thanks for making that post

Your always gonna have casual players with a game (especially brawl) like this, and it's not as if there is no competition, and it's not as if you yourself placed 1st at the last event Charles ran. Most players who show up know that they probably wont take any money home with them and they accept that, why? because its part of the learning experience. In a tournament nobody likes losing apart from MM's it's also the only time alot of better players will take the game seriously and actually try.

You also contradicted yourself in that you want no pools (matches that better players will have to win as they are serious tourney matches) and more friendlies (supposedly more relaxed and dare i say it... casual?!). Now i've known for quite a while that alot of london players seem to fail to grasp the idea that friendlies arent serious and dont mean anything in the grand scheme of things, imo it's something that should be sorted pronto.

It's the wrong attitude to have towards smash imo. Money should just be a bonus, it's a game after all the idea is your supposed to have fun. Competitiveness should be come from wanting to be the best, cause thats all you have once youve spent that money.

Well done Calzor for winning at brawl, though it seems that some people are making some huge johns about it...

 

[Kone]

oh this is geting intresting , i totally agree with more pot as mako and blazin stated but its not up to me , and reason we did bad in tsl is nothing to do with weve not had competition be4 etc weve all had that lvl of competition i know why me kira mako ixis and auron did terrible , because we had 3 hours sleep and walked 50mins without a drink half of us without a shower got to venue no warmup and mako was hungover xD , or else i can gaurentee we would of placed higher thats the main reasons for placing bad

Welcome to a real tournament. Your factors for not placing well are factors all your competition, who did place better, also had and over came. You can say that you didn't expect these factors or think that they would impact you so bad and put it down to experience. Which is understandable, it takes a while, if not mulptiple euro tourneys, to appreciate how important tackling and dealing with these issues is. However, you can't pinpoint them as the reasons why you sucked. Put it down to experience and your fine. Learn from it. As next euro tourney they are all coming back

ps i always expect to be hungover, thirsty, tired, hungry and achey.At the dutch tournament I just went to I drove 17 hours the day before =x. I combat this at every tournament by using pro plus, weed and alcohol asap on the day of the tourney. Find a nice balance and ignore the rest

 

[Tamoo]

Well said coey, everything u said was very true
theres one more thing I cannot grasp,

When I was walking around the hall, looking at the massive number of friendlies going on, I saw many people playing people that are either in their crew or people they play regularly anyway. Now come on, you dont come all the way here to do that! Dont be shy, before the tournament starts, and once there's some free time, dont be shy to ask ppl you dont know for friendlies, rather than waste your time playing matches you could play at home. I made sure I didnt play ppl in my crew at all in friendlies last tournament, as I realised I was doing that a lot before, and I had a very good time because of it.

 

[Kone]

People get nervous playing new people especially before the tournament. Divnt want to give everything away.

 

[Tamoo]

yeah true, I know i was def a bit nervous a few monthlies back, so i can understand, but its still a shame when i see it going on

 

[Kone]

I also thinks it is to do with confidence. People are threatened with the idea of going out of there comfort zone to play new people. It doesnt help playing new people and losing just before you got to play pools or what not against a lot of new people etc

 

[MakoMako]

your idea to propose bans/strikes/not inviting people who break rules to your tournaments almost makes it sound as if you expect many people to show up lolol,

 

[Kone]

i concur teehee

 

[COEY]

lol i already have now over 10 players already confirmed after what 2 days of it being announced, and oh wait its also quite soon which also usually lowers attendance. with players already interested including from london, oh right no one is going to show up....

and incase you missed it i am going to talk more about it with charles so look forward to seeing such rulings at a tourney near you.

i expect roughly 15-20 people to attend if this is the case it will be the largest non national tournament to have ever taken place in the north west! as well as the fact that i'm running a never before seen in the UK 4 events.

 

[-BlAz3-]

10 people?

a WHOLE 10 PEOPLE?


o****tttt

 

[COEY]

10 people?

a WHOLE 10 PEOPLE?


o****tttt

lol it's post like this that just show inexperience and lack of knowledge of the uk scene. if you knew **** all about the northwest youd know 10 players is almost double what quite a few events i have hosted have had in terms of attendance. you'd also realise that the north west isnt the richest part of the country, its alot easier to host bigger tourneys when you have the money to play video games all day.

 

[-BlAz3-]

tournaments with 5 people?

sick, 5 man bracket. that **** sounds live man

 

[J03]

When I was walking around the hall, looking at the massive number of friendlies going on, I saw many people playing people that are either in their crew or people they play regularly anyway.

As Ed said people get nervous. Take a look at the general smasher, your talking about a social outcast geek with little in the way of social skills and lots in the way of outcastness rofl. I guess it can be daunting talking to the known/veteran names in smash, but its not like professional football rofl just man up and talk to them!

As far as games go you gotta MAN UP and demand games with peeps you wana play, take no BS and if you can offer them a cheap MM then do so. At Zest4 i basically kicked off some dude playing Amsah and gave him some sick friendlies. Amsah was like wtf i thought you were some scrub UK player xD.

Other then that smash is a great way to make accquitances that can become mates. Everyone plays smash for different reason other then the fact that we love the game. Personally ive made an entirely different social circle that ive matured with, seeing them every so often and having a great time after the tourney catching up with peeps ive not seen in months/years. It gives me a great alternative to sitting around getting miserable playing friendlies with scrubs to make myself feel better rofl.

just realised ive no idea what this post is actually about, just rambled on a good memory rofl.

AAAWWWW Blaze, your sooo cute

 

[-BlAz3-]

thats what they tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[Professor Pro]

looool @ J03 last comment bit.

Anyway I hope all the best for your event COEY.

I know it's not easy to setup an event and try to get people to attend it without a massive background of players but luckily You and J03 are high quality players and I know that will attract more people and hopefully the event goes good.

Any chance of any vids being recorded.

J03 - loool That's good that Amsah thought you were good, now I wanna play him and see what he says about me, I know he knows who I am since he has warned me on smashboards before about some of my past posts lol.
I agree on demanding friendlies off of people, some people just hang in the background while the person they wanna play plays friendlies, sometimes I ask them if they wanna play but the majority of the time I don't lol.
In the end of the day they have to step up and ask and no1 would really say no anyway.
I always introduce myself to new players I see at events as they are probably uncomfortable so I think that's a step the well known people should take TBH...anyonelse agree?

 

[COEY]

tournaments with 5 people?

sick, 5 man bracket. that **** sounds live man

'almost' double so meaning a minimum of 6 players, i'm sorry if your reading or maths isnt very good.

and you run round robin with 6 players which youd know if you had experience running something like this. a bracket obviously wouldnt last very long thanks again for pointing out the obvious. you do realise that every post like that you just invalidate your point further and further right?

you gotta work with what you get. if only 6 of the 8 or so serious melee players in the area at the time can show then thats what you work with.

 

[MakoMako]

prof introduced himself to me as DOWN B DOWN B UPSMASH UPTHROW UPAIR -GAME-
transformed my life forever

'almost' double so meaning a minimum of 6 players, i'm sorry if your reading or maths isnt very good.

and you run round robin with 6 players which youd know if you had experience running something like this. a bracket obviously wouldnt last very long thanks again for pointing out the obvious. you do realise that every post like that you just invalidate your point further and further right?

you gotta work with what you get. if only 6 of the 8 or so serious melee players in the area at the time can show then thats what you work with.

thats not a tourney, thats a smash fest WITH AUTHORITY

 

[COEY]

oh and pro yea man i'm going to record hopefully all the finals will try to record semi finals as well.

 

[J03]

e, I know he knows who I am since he has warned me on smashboards before about some of my past posts lol.

ROFL!!! thats exactly how amsah knew me, i used to post nasty useless things haha

I always introduce myself and i find that really helps any new guys chillax and feel at home, i agree its a step that the veterans should take, i remember my first tourney, and being mad nervous, then i heard ryans amazing laughter and figured id be ok if i talked to him.

Thank you ryan, your laugh is amazing. please continue to love iife forever <3

 

[unknown522]

I heard good things about professor pro from sanuzi

 

[Jolteon]

Professor Pro's controller unveiled!

 

[Fuzzyness]

lmfao jokes

 

[-BlAz3-]

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Fuzzyness]

if you want to see mine just black out the Y button

 

[Dacacia]

When I was walking around the hall, looking at the massive number of friendlies going on, I saw many people playing people that are either in their crew or people they play regularly anyway. Now come on, you dont come all the way here to do that! Dont be shy, before the tournament starts, and once there's some free time, dont be shy to ask ppl you dont know for friendlies, rather than waste your time playing matches you could play at home. I made sure I didnt play ppl in my crew at all in friendlies last tournament, as I realised I was doing that a lot before, and I had a very good time because of it.

Lol How many games did we play when we were in Lyon? I do totally agree with you though, everyone should play as many different people as possible, and it was fun getting ***** by ridiculously good europeans.

Also, I should be making this, so I look forward to playing everyone soon!

Edit: Also, lol at pro's controller!