Smash Bros. Canon Tournament! (Mario Vs. ????) - 06/14/10

[_clinton]

And Ephraim is awesome.

Yes ^_^

He is for sure one of the manliest characters in the FE series, that is for sure, god how they introduce him is just awesome:
-Hit and run fighting through enemy territory with like 3 other people
-One of those three people betrays him, and he is pretty much for sure captured from the looks of it
-However, it turns out he got away some how (they don't show it, WTF?) and then came back to save his sister who was thinking he was captured and ended up being captured herself!

Naturally Ephraim loses a certain type of points in my book for the simple fact that chances are one of his possible brides to be is his sister, but **** he is awesome in said game.

I'm still of the opinion Roy wins, but he doesn't stomp as I said earlier.

So, why do you think he does now? I'm still thinking that the Shield of Seals and Falchion are a bit stronger than just the Sword of Seals only due to the fact that one is holding back the world's destruction and the other is sealing a god away but the power of said god remains in the sword.

And Alm is on the list, look again.

Well I'm ****ing blind ^_^

It's more the hypersonic reactions that seal the deal.

I don't see how she has hypersonic reactions w/o her suit and the many upgrades it gives her though, I really don't see how she would handle something like Ridley w/o her suit and such, I mean she still usually fights him in cramped areas as well.

Plus Snake has stealth gear in more than one type (one naturally blends in with the environment, the other is the "invisible" type), natural healing, and super reflexes as well (although not to the level you are saying), and is super durable as well (to the point where he can stuff like walk through a microwave room and live, it is in MGS4 look it up).

Granted by the end of his canon, he is old, so he isn't at the prime of his life (but he still withstood said microwave room)

He's fast. I'm just unsure of the exact speed.

Well I've seen him run up completely 90 degree angle walls just fine, and the levels he is usually in have him being able to clear them in a manner of moments and they are usually large chunks of land, plus things like how he can handle flying towards levels just fine in SMG says something as well.

Super Princess Peach. Admittedly, the island in that game strenthened her emotions.

I'm aware of where the emotions are from, I've played the game, the earth tremors and the like aren't super impressive, I'm more impressed with the fire wall that surrounds her for starters.

Red is not the main symbol of the series. Pikachu is.

Red is the symbol for trainers though of the series, that is what I meant.

And yes, he's Red. Or we get into other arguments: Is Yoshi the one Yoshi that Mario has the best relationship, or just one of the many others?

The default Yoshi we have though is green, but there is clear evidence out there that there as been more than one helping Mario, so it really is just a random Yoshi for the most part, which works because they really don't have a lot of differences in their skills.

Plus Brawl itself doesn't say "Red" as far as character selection goes, the guy just says "Pokemon Trainer"

Read also had all three of those at a point in time.

Yeah, and those three are also a symbol for the pokemon games.

Still nothing compared to Lucario in a 1vs1.

Going against the entire Underworld which is filled with mythological monsters is nothing compared to a single Lucario? Oh and again, Medusa is a Goddess of Darkness as far as canon in those games go (it is only based off Greek Stuff, it isn't the same)

Pichu still wins. He just zaps the area. And yeah, Olimar will die from being stepped at.

-Olimar is packing 100% immunity to electricity, and so are yellow Pikmin.
-Olimar can also stun foes that are bigger than Pichu canon wise with various sprays he has, and also buff his pikmin in speed and attack during that time.
-Olimar's suit has handled entry into Earth's atmosphere as far as durability goes and he is commonly stepped on by the various creatures in the game and comes out just fine, hell his 1st ship had a laser gun that can destroy stars.

Ponyta is fast and easy to catch.
And again, Jiggs is fast enough to fight against Mach speed opponents.

Jiggs in no way is able to handle fighting vs. opponents that are actually strong, you are aware that there is a huge amount of in-balance in the pokemon metagame on purpose right? Well that is on purpose, and there is no way Jiggs would handle being able to fight any of the largest and strongest pokemon canon wise or competitively.

Jiggs is clearly not meant to be used in serious combat with in the game world and in the game mechanics, I mean the only stat it actually has that is anywhere close to good is HP.

Rapidash is able to reach 150 MPH max according to the dex, so there is no way Ponyta is faster than that or close to that speed, oh and even Rapidash is rare to the point where you have to search areas like Mt. Silver for it.

 

[Ganonsburg]

RWB = Clinton's alt account. I'm calling it now. Between the two of them this thread will die by tomorrow, with the last few pages being filled with nothing but walls upon walls of text. If text were water, we'd be drowning.

 

[PowerBomb]

I'm not even going to read that. If you need to write that much to address a side point, and still not address our main point (to lessen the amount of stuff you write), then you have a problem.

RIP SBCT, it was fun while it lasted. Maybe Clinton will go kill someone else's thread now.

Dang. Well, this is a shame.

I applaud you _clinton. Good for you, completely killing a thread that once was plenty active and had at least more than just three or four people debating. Good for you for being so stubborn that this thread is dead.

Good for you. Now go somewhere else. Go kill some other thread. You should have better things to do anyway.

 

[_clinton]

RWB = Clinton's alt account. I'm calling it now.

Well, you are wrong.

God, I enjoy watching your guy's reactions over this though.

 

[REL38]

What is this

I don't even . . . .

 

[JOE!]

What is this

I don't even . . . .

to sum it up:

 

[RWB]

The funniest things with threads like these are the arguments. Anyone can express an opinion with no thought whatsoever, but if you have solid arguments behind you, people can actually discuss.

And what _clinton and I do aren't walls of text, they are clear answers. Just because they are a bit on the long side does not make them walls of text.


And they sure as **** benefit the thread far more than useless posts whining about how intelligent discussion is killing the thread...

PowerBomb and Ganonsburg, would you please take your off-topic, self-righteaous comments and shove them where the sun don't shine?



And finally, I'm not _clinton's alt.

I've argued against him on gamefaqs at an earlier time- I'm called Grammar_man there. Not to mention I doubt we're even from the same country. I'm swedish.

 

[JOE!]

And what _clinton and I do aren't walls of text, they are clear answers. Just because they are a bit on the long side does not make them walls of text.

I believe that's what a wall of text is....

and if the majority of people think you two are ****ing up a thread....chances are you two are ****ING UP A THREAD

 

[_clinton]

and if the majority of people think you two are ****ing up a thread....chances are you two are ****ING UP A THREAD

lol, there are plenty of other reasons for why this thread is being ****ed up besides long walls of text which have been in here from other users as well way before I came.

About 4 people have left because of Samus' speed booster BS (the pro side view that is for this, yeah fun fact, plenty of other people don't see Samus as invulnerable while using it besides me, its hard to believe that an old SNES instruction booklet is your only true backing for your argument as well, which is sad).

Hell just the fact that the thread is pretty much a year old now is another reason.

Oh and your complaining towards RWB about him having a long post is just off setting when the guy's post pretty much was long this time because he was talking about old match ups, which you can do according to the rules of the thread.

 

[Lovely]

Are we using Marth from Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon? Using that game is the only way Marth has a chance at Roy. Roy's Sword of Seals is much stronger than Falchion by strength, side effects, range, and critical hit. Marth's sword has more accuracy and he's able to use it an infinite amount of times, while Roy's sword can only be used twenty times. This is a pretty much a win match for Roy, but that would depend on equipment both Marth and Roy uses.

 

[_clinton]

@Lovely
Marth has more than one game, and his equipment that he is using for them has a fun history, I'm aware that Roy's equipment pretty much caused the destruction of the earth because humans are ****ers in his canon, but Marth's equipment by itself could **** the earth as well.

-The Shield of Seals (Fire Emblem) is pretty much the only thing holding Marth's world together from something that is making it decay for some reason (and causing things to go crazy, not even the god dragons are safe from the effect), and while it is doing that, it is also clearly protecting Marth's full team from a mental assault from the main bad guy and the like in the last chapters.

It is also sealing away dragons that by themselves are as far as power goes only 2nd the god dragons, and they are equal to humanity as far as number goes pretty much as well.

This shield and it's orbs were made from the fang of the most powerful god dragon so that is why it is so powerful.

To top matters into this, the orbs (light, dark, geo, life, star) have been used to make powerful magic which pretty much clearly caused some world threats by themselves as well.

-The Falchion is a prison for a god of darkness according to the game's after Marth's canon that show it's back story with another character, but said character is still in Marth's world clearly. Anyway while it sealed her away it didn't fully seal her power, so that is why the sword is as powerful as it is.

 

[JOE!]

Lol, so Roy also beats Marth canon-wise?

so far marth is only better in smash, Roy beats his *** in TDB too

 

[_clinton]

Lol, so Roy also beats Marth canon-wise?

so far marth is only better in smash, Roy beats his *** in TDB too

How the **** does that work out for TDB? Marth is packing a shield along with armor for starters. Roy only has a sword and armor as for what I see.

And what makes you think Roy beats Marth canon wise when Marth is packing a sword that is packing god power, and a shield that is protecting the world itself?

 

[warpd]

How the **** does that work out for TDB? Marth is packing a shield along with armor for starters. Roy only has a sword and armor as for what I see.

And what makes you think Roy beats Marth canon wise when Marth is packing a sword that is packing god power, and a shield that is protecting the world itself?

Because Roy has red hair and everyone knows that red heads are far more dangerous than blue haired people.

 

[PowerBomb]

About 4 people have left because of Samus' speed booster BS

lawl

Of course. Sure.

 

[_clinton]

lawl

Of course. Sure.

So, am I like the only one who has noticed some people besides me pretty much also call BS on the Speed Booster's so called canon info that doesn't agree with the game mechanics or the script in MF within the last 800 or so pages?

I've hardly been the only person in this thread who has outright stated that invulnerability and that stuff should be thrown out of the thread as well because of clear reasons. I mean it was just brought up again a bit back.

 

[REL38]

How the **** does that work out for TDB? Marth is packing a shield along with armor for starters. Roy only has a sword and armor as for what I see.

And what makes you think Roy beats Marth canon wise when Marth is packing a sword that is packing god power, and a shield that is protecting the world itself?

Where the hell did he get a bloody shield?

*serious question*

Edit:
Monshō no Nazo
Did he actually use it in gameplay, canon?

 

[RWB]

I believe that's what a wall of text is....

A wall of text is a single very long block of text.

None of my answers are very long. It's when you put them together they get long, and that's not what a wall of text is.

Would you rather I dismiss good intelligent arguments as completely unimportant(which they aren't)?

Like this:

"Argument"

Me: Irrelevant!


Some arguments needs long answers.

and if the majority of people think you two are ****ing up a thread....chances are you two are ****ING UP A THREAD

Because two-three people= The majority.

>_>


Also again, how is intelligent discussion killing the thread? If anything, we're the life support of this already dying thread.

PowerBomb, why don't you start actually arguing again, instead of whining about people with better arguments? Would benefit the thread.





And continuing the earlier matches runthrough:

Loser Round 1


1.) Bowser Vs. Mewtwo: Draw.


Bowser is a lot faster, strong enough to kill Mewtwo with a single attack. He has the upper hand, though admittedly, IF Mewtwo has the time to do anything, Bowser is pretty F***ed. So really, depends on the first blow.

Assuming Star Rod is allowed though, Bowser wins with ease.


2.) Zero Suit Samus Vs. Luigi: -1 Zero Suit. +1 Luigi.

Mario is a decent match for Suited Samus. ZSS gets wrecked.


3.) Link Vs. Donkey Kong: -1 Donkey Kong. +1 Link.

Correct. If DK had better speed, he'd win, but as of now, Link has the time to activate his spells.


4.) Marth Vs. Fox: -1 Marth. +1 Fox.

Vehicle- Correct. Marth will never hit Fox, and Fox can shower him with lasers and bombs.
Nonvehicle- Correct. Fox Arwing has the same basic engine system as the F-zero racers. His speed is high enough to whip out his pistol and headshot Marth.

5.) Captain Falcon Vs. R.O.B: -1 R.O.B. +1 Captain Falcon.

No comment.

6.) Roy Vs. Mr. Game & Watch: -1 Game&Watch. +1 Roy.

Correct.

7.) Diddy Kong Vs. Wario: -1 Wario. +1 Diddy.

Wrong. Wario is faster, stronger, more durable, more intelligent(shocker).
Diddy would lose to Pikachu, who I already noted that Wario would maul.


8.) Falco Vs. Ice Climbers: -1 IC. +1 Falco,

See Fox above, only the Ice climbers aren't nearly as powerful as Marth.


9.) Lucario Vs. Olimar: -1 Olimar. +1 Lucario.

Correct IMO. Lucario's Aura Sphere should do some fine damage to someone half the size of the penny.




Round 2 Results:

1.) Lucas Vs. Samus: -1 Lucas. +1 Samus.

Correct. Samus has way superior speed abd reactions, and can literally splatter Lucas to death by running into him with her speed boost.

Do take note that Lucas would likely win without the speed disadvantage.


2.) Ganondorf Vs. Metaknight: -1 Meta + 1 Ganon.

"Once again, nothing Metaknight has can harm Ganondorf."

Technically, Sword Kirby wields the Master Sword(Zelda version).
Meta-Knight possesses TWO swords that are superior to Sword Kirby's- Galaxia and Master(also called Master Sword).
I'd say they'd be able to harm Gdorf. And as such, Meta's higher speed and strength wins him this.



3.) Mario Vs. Pokemon Trainer: -1 Trainer. +1 Mario.

Mario can bowl over the Trainer long before he can order anything. The trainer's Pokemon could however kill him afterwards.

Still, Mario's victory.


4.) ToonLink Vs. Pikachu: -1 Pikachu. +1 ToonLink.

Toon Link loses by KO(not death).

Pikachu can paralyze him, then thunder him to unconsciousness.


5.) Young Link Vs. Pichu: -1 Pichu. +1 Young Link.

See above, only this time, Thunder is fatal.

6.) Sonic Vs. Kirby: -1 Kirby. +1 Sonic.

Sonic is simply too fast, and for all his strong points, Kirby isn't that durable. Sonic tears through steel like a hot knife through butter.

7.) Ike Vs. King Dedede -1 King D3. +1 Ike.

Dedede fights Kirby relatively evenly, which easily puts him as superior physically. However, I don't see him able to bypass the blesing well enough.


8.) Peach Vs. Snake -1 Snake. +1 Peach.

Snake can't hurt Peach- SMG gave her enough durability to survive escape velocity heat and gravity. Neither Snake's bombs nor guns can exert that amount of damage. And again, while nowhere close to Mario, she's still quite powerful.

9.) Zelda Vs. Yoshi -1 Yoshi. +1 Zelda.

Yoshi is basically a weaker Mario. Which is easily enough to dispatch Zelda.

10.) Ness Vs. Wolf -1 Wolf. +1 Ness.

PK Paralysis likely wins it... though depending on Wolf's speed, he might shoot Ness dead first.

11.) Pit Vs. Jigglypuff -1 Jigglypuff. +1 Pit.

Hard to say. Pit's achievements are great, but he has no real feats of combat.

 

[REL38]

The excessive use of individual quotes makes it more difficult to read as well as giving the illusion of being a wall of text

People lose interest and/or don't bother reading it due to that
Affecting regular posters/audience

I'd say that's what has started to make the thread "die" in the first place albiet raising good points, but at the cost of unfavorable reading format/drawn out pages


The individual quoting is more so the problem, really



Just to say, Star Rod takes 3+ seconds to actually do anything
Embargo was the solution to that

Also, size of a quarter

 

[RWB]

Individual quotes makes it easier for the one you're arguing with to cite you, though.



Also...

Where the hell did he get a bloody shield?

*serious question*

Edit:
Monshō no Nazo
Did he actually use it in gameplay, canon?

He wielded it in combat.

 

[Diddy Kong]

****! **** **** **** ****!!!

_clinton I quoted your whole ****ING post and it's GONE!

ARGH!

 

[JOE!]

ok,

Marth still sucked compard to Roy and ike in-game though, both have better swords and armor (lol shoulderpads on marth) and are arguabley better trained

 

[the king of murder]

Yup, Marth loses.

Roy is stronger canon wise and gamplay wise. At best for Marth, he will fight equally with Roy. At worst, he will lose completely.

 

[PowerBomb]

2.) Ganondorf Vs. Metaknight: -1 Meta + 1 Ganon.

"Once again, nothing Metaknight has can harm Ganondorf."

Technically, Sword Kirby wields the Master Sword(Zelda version).
Meta-Knight possesses TWO swords that are superior to Sword Kirby's- Galaxia and Master(also called Master Sword).
I'd say they'd be able to harm Gdorf. And as such, Meta's higher speed and strength wins him this.

Kirby's sword is the Master Sword? o_O
Just because something is stronger doesn't mean it can necessarily do the same task as another weapon can. Let's say I have a sniper rifle or a high powered rifle which has a primary role of taking out opponents from long range. However, it is close to useless at close range. This is where a SMG shines. The rifle might have more power, but in a close range situation, it's really useless compared to the SMG.

Or something like that. Do you get what I'm saying?

EDIT: So Roy wins?

 

[warpd]

Looks like more people are in favor of Roy winning.

 

[REL38]

2.) Ganondorf Vs. Metaknight: -1 Meta + 1 Ganon.

"Once again, nothing Metaknight has can harm Ganondorf."

Technically, Sword Kirby wields the Master Sword(Zelda version).
Meta-Knight possesses TWO swords that are superior to Sword Kirby's- Galaxia and Master(also called Master Sword).
I'd say they'd be able to harm Gdorf. And as such, Meta's higher speed and strength wins him this.

The sword is only the same by name
No indication they're the same weapon with the same abilities

Ganon would wreck Metaknight without his invulnerablity anyways

 

[JOE!]

isnt MK like 8 inches tall too?

 

[PowerBomb]

isnt MK like 8 inches tall too?

Either that or somewhat taller than Kirby.

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

Win = +1. Loss = -1. Draw = no change.

Current Match-Up:
THE ANGEL Vs. THE MADMAN

Marth Vs. Roy

it: Vs. :Wario:

Loser's Round 6, Match 5.

Overall Results

Wins +6:

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Wins +5:



Wins +4:


Wins +3:

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Wins +2:

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Wins +1:

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Neutral:

, ichu:, , ,

Loss -1:

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Loss -2:

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Loss -3:

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Loss -4:

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Loss -5:



Loss -6:

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Vs.

 

[JOE!]

Pit wins due to projectiles....unless Wario has invulnerability?

 

[PowerBomb]

Apparently, Wario couldn't be harmed in one of his games or something like that. If Pit has something that looks like money, he can bribe Wario into forfeiting. :D

 

[JOE!]

...pit has golden equipment

 

[_clinton]

Where the hell did he get a bloody shield?
Monshō no Nazo
Did he actually use it in gameplay, canon?

Yes, yes he did, observe these two things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC_qrOJRTP8

It seems that the idea of popularity is winning (again) though.

Bowser is a lot faster, strong enough to kill Mewtwo with a single attack. He has the upper hand, though admittedly, IF Mewtwo has the time to do anything, Bowser is pretty F***ed. So really, depends on the first blow.

Why on earth wouldn't Mewtwo just steal the bloody star rod or something like that?

Correct IMO. Lucario's Aura Sphere should do some fine damage to someone half the size of the penny.

Well he is a bit bigger than that, but considering how Lucario’s feats as far as wild pokemon go are actually impressive, he is the only one out of these wild pokemon played in Brawl (Mewtwo isn’t in Brawl, but of course he would win) that actually will win (and it is by far). I mean, I don’t see Jiggs, Pikachu, or Pichu really doing it.

Correct. Samus has way superior speed abd reactions, and can literally splatter Lucas to death by running into him with her speed boost.

Do take note that Lucas would likely win without the speed disadvantage.

So, the fact that Lucas fights a ton of fast foes (pure ****ing lightning for starters, don't know if that means anything though, but then again you have other things that clearly use super speed), teleporting foes (this does mean something), and is able to alter his physical traits means nothing?

Oh and just to say it right now:

Teleport > Super speed

**** the idea of just splattering Lucas to death by running into him is off as well, ever notice what the guy can take due to his psychic powers? Oh and what makes you think Samus’ reactions are better than a psychic’s?

Technically, Sword Kirby wields the Master Sword(Zelda version).
Meta-Knight possesses TWO swords that are superior to Sword Kirby's- Galaxia and Master(also called Master Sword).

The fact that both swords are used to fight evil is also a fact about this.

The trainer's Pokemon could however kill him afterwards.

Nah, on another note I'm shocked that we haven't talked about the various vehicles that Mario and such use.

Toon Link loses by KO(not death).

Pikachu can paralyze him, then thunder him to unconsciousness.

So, for some reason the pokedex doesn't support Pikachu having things beyond thunder shock or so, ever notice that in Raichu's dex they support him having thunderbolt but not in Pikachu's?

Just thought I’d say that, anyway:

Why would Tink be paralyzed by thunder wave when he fights electric foes all the time in his game and any sort of paralysis on them only lasts a bit?

Oh and it isn’t like Tink isn’t packing magic armor and the like, I don’t see why it wouldn’t protect him from that. It’s not like Pikachu can take a lot of punishment either, so the idea of it wearing out is a bit off.

See above, only this time, Thunder is fatal.

What? Yink>Tink by far for starters, god what is stopping him from going Zora mask on him and giving Pichu a taste of his own electricity or something like that? It’s not like Pichu is packing ice or fire or something else like that.

Or what is stopping him from using another mask like the stone mask and making him hard to track? What about him just casting a spell while he can’t be seen?

Dedede fights Kirby relatively evenly, which easily puts him as superior physically.

I always viewed Kirby vs. D3 as a curb stomp battle myself for Kirby. ^_^

Snake can't hurt Peach- SMG gave her enough durability to survive escape velocity heat and gravity.

Part of me is like 90% sure that can be placed by Mario’s hand of saving her and it is him that is doing that, because when is she shown to do something like use the Star energy of that game anyway?

PK Paralysis likely wins it... though depending on Wolf's speed, he might shoot Ness dead first.

Those aliens that were firing at Ness in his game and were also psychic, those dinosaurs that stomped on him, that minus world that threatened his sanity, the mountain drop falling, and so on couldn’t stop him, yet you think a blaster from a Wolfen will possibly do it?

What about Ness just teleporting up there, smashing it with his bat, then bringing Wolf to the ground? Then curb stomping his *** to hell even more? It’s hardly like Wolf is the only flying foe he fights in his games.

Hard to say. Pit's achievements are great, but he has no real feats of combat.

Fighting a goddess of Darkness and her army of mythological monsters isn’t showing off feats of combat?

I'd say that's what has started to make the thread "die" in the first place albiet raising good points, but at the cost of unfavorable reading format/drawn out pages

The funny thing is, my 1st post in this thread is like at around the 6000 mark, and it is clear as hell that long posts were around before I showed up.

****! **** **** **** ****!!!

_clinton I quoted your whole ****ING post and it's GONE!

ARGH!

Sorry.

ok,

Marth still sucked compard to Roy and ike in-game though, both have better swords and armor (lol shoulderpads on marth) and are arguabley better trained

Marth has more than just shoulderpads on him, please note that in stuff like this pic:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/_...blem/images/f/ff/IkeNmarth-at-CastleSiege.jpg
-The “shoulderpads” you keep saying he only has are actually protecting his chest and the like, if anything he is packing light armor, which really isn’t much more than what Roy has.

I like how you avoided the shield part, where is Roy’s shield? And he was trained in combat the hard way, as in with real experience, which is how plenty of these characters are trained, so how is that a bad thing? God, he leads his army into battle with him, it is clear he has enough experience to handle war.

Yup, Marth loses.

Roy is stronger canon wise and gamplay wise. At best for Marth, he will fight equally with Roy. At worst, he will lose completely.

Did you even read any of the last posts? There is no way the Sword of Seals is stronger than the Falchion and the Shield of Seals. The fact that one is holding the fate of the world on it, and the other is a prison for a god which is where it gets its power is clearly a bit stronger than just a weapon made for war (and no matter how strong it is, you can’t say that it has single handily placed the fate of the world on it, not when there were 8 others around).

Ganon would wreck Metaknight without his invulnerablity anyways

So, where is Ganondorf showing off his mach speed sword play again with a sword that is bigger than him in height?

God, just because the character is smaller doesn't mean that he loses, and with extreme cases like Kirby and MK, who clearly have reaction times matching the speed of sound (their sword play), can live just fine in space, can travel to worlds in a manner of moments, and so on. MK can also teleport and can clearly fly faster than Kirby packing a wheel power up.

Apparently, Wario couldn't be harmed in one of his games or something like that. If Pit has something that looks like money, he can bribe Wario into forfeiting. :D

Yeah, it takes more than just a little bit of $$ to bribe Wario.

And it is more than just one game where he couldn’t be harmed.

Plus on that note sense you seem to be thinking that someone could be stopped fighting w/o fighting, you are aware that 90% of the characters in this thread wouldn't have a reason to fight right? (I mean what is actually making Mario fight Marth or Samus fight Ness? They are all good guys in their games).

 

[JOE!]

go away, nobody likes to read your stupidly long, multi-quoted posts

thats what is killing this thread.

 

[_clinton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIVIQECRhCA

Bowser's Falcon punch is awesome.

Also, got to like how Roy wins because of popularity again.

Quick question Joe, is Lucas still losing to Ness in your thread because of Ness packing a bat and Lucas is packing a stick despite the fact that he clearly has more than just sticks in his game?

Oh and how come your thread is pretty much placing most of the brawlers in a RL situation, but you make such exceptions like with Samus' power suit despite the fact that in RL 99% of what the suit is wouldn't work.

 

[PowerBomb]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Yeah, I think that Pit is gonna win this. Projectiles plus the shield and a bit of health (iirc, Dryn said something about this) makes Wario fart and explode.

Next MU, unless anyone else has something to say about this.

 

[_clinton]

Obvious troll is obvious.

I like how I'm a troll just because of things like how I think TDB is ****ing stupid (the thread that is, not the poster, just thought I should clear that up because I know how some of you guys are) and was willing to give some of my reasons for why I feel that way and why I'm only doing it is because Joe commented towards me with a baseless claim about something that has been in this thread way longer than I have (long posts that is).

Yeah, I think that Pit is gonna win this. Projectiles plus the shield and a bit of health (iirc, Dryn said something about this) makes Wario fart and explode.

What makes you think Wario doesn't have projectiles and ways of shielding himself? God he can use many of the power ups Mario has been seen throwing around such as the fire flower for starters.

He can create stuff to attack, recover with, or defend with using his Arty Wario form, he can just take out his laser gun to just shoot Pit with his Cosmic Wario form, and finally he has projectiles with some of his dragon hats and the like from some of his oldest games.

He is an expert at using explosives as well, the various treasures he has have been used by him in various ways (he destroyed a chunk of land using a thunder summoning trident, then froze up another chunk of land using an ice rod from Wario Land 3 for starters).

 

[PowerBomb]

So, any objections to Pit winning?

 

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@Clinton

Stupid just because "fire arrows are game mechanic"?

I'm pretty sure that was noted around when the thread began to start, where we were wrong about countless things like Charizard doing air dives, using mega fire blasts and earthquakes

Basing an opinion on a thread because of the first few pages isn't very accurate of an expanding thread
Just sayin'

The Mother Boys vast weaponry was noted and I think they're a tie
"future tech" was allowed so Samus suit is one of those things that are deamed "okay"



Anyways, individual multiquoting was around, but not to the extent it's become

Also, an attack from Ganon will be devastating
Dimensional rifts, magic and other moves done it
MK's speed isn't very noteworthy aside from his slashes

Teleporting is shown to have lag of about a second which is well enough time for Ganon to react and attack him

 

[ElPanandero]

Pit has range and flight, I think that alone gives him the win...