and both spacies and snake dont "automatically" lock on liek Samus would
They do actually, so if you are going to give that + to Samus who I'll admit I guess shows it off in games like MP with the lock on system there, why don't you do it for Snake and the space animals? Who also clearly have it in their games in some shape or form and have the technology backing it up?
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Solid_Eye_(technology)
Snake's in game scope lens also lets him see in the dark and detect hidden foes (although not all at once).
Snake's model also acted as a corrective lens for far-sightedness.
Also on that note, how do you deal with characters that logically shouldn't exist IRL? Solid Snake for example is a clone of a super solider. Then there are characters like G&W.
Mewtwo's Me First iirc takes priority over moves which go mach speed, or are supposed to so there you have your answer.
Yeah, and the move “surf” floods a battle field that a 10 year old is fighting on, and everything outside of the battle is just fine after that. That is kind of good for a move that can only be used around water on the map.
Oh and Me 1st, I’m pretty sure it doesn’t beat “Quick attack” and the like. In fact, the user has to be faster than the foe as well or else it won’t work! Again Me 1st is another move that is getting more credit than it deserves in this thread (the biggest insult is the item cancelling though of course).
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/mefirst.shtml
What's your opinion about Pokemon move limits anyways now that we're talking about it..?
I thought it was BS that this thread would think that the things only knowing how to use four moves would be anything more than a game mechanic, it isn’t supported by the games in any real way even at that. Yet, considering how I feel that a lot of the moves they have is BS and a lot of the moves in general are BS, I think it is a fair trade as far as views go.
Well, in a way Mother 3 itself actually would help in a way of Bowser being able to survive ZOMGAPOACLYPSE (which imo Lucas shouldn't be able to do but whatever..) cause of Porky and his super capsule. Most likely, Porky survived the end of Mother 3 as well. So who said Bowser wouldn't? Canon wise he's been through a lot of **** as well, so...
Everything living in the end of Mother 3 was only because of Lucas letting them live. Bowser only lived because of the universe being reborn, so I don’t see how that counts in his favor. Also, again how come you don’t think Lucas should have a power that is clearly his?
Plus Porky is just the type of villain that you sort of feel just sorry for when you get his history right, so if anything that sounds like a better reason for him living if you ask me (Lucas felt sorry for him just like everyone else).
Wild Pikachus also pack Thunder Wave. What is Yoshi's (or many other character's) answer to paralysis? This is why I regard Pikachu so highly. Paralysis is no joke.
So, what makes you think that thunder wave would hit Yoshi? Pikachu’s electricity comes from its pouches for one thing, which implies a clearly close range fighter. Yoshi manly attacks from a distance unless he feels like feeding, which I don’t see how Pikachu will escape Yoshi’s insides, considering how Pikachu is pretty much the right size for him to munch on, and as far as attacking his insides go, the fact that Yoshi can handle spikes, fire (from lava), ice, and so on just fine in his digestion makes me think Pikachu is ****ed if it is munched on.
Also, you keep acting like the paralysis in pokemon is like EB’s actual Paralysis where characters can clearly be ****ed unless they have some mental attacks, but it is clear that all it does is just slow you down, and randomly stun you.
Looking at the clear fact that thunder wave is hardly the only thing to cause it is a major issue. Tell me, how does “glare” cause the same paralysis issues as thunder wave? How about stun spore? How does dragon breath have a 30% chance at causing this true paralysis that you think it is? How about lick and the 30% chance it has?
I mean a lot of those can be explained easily and they wouldn’t constitute real paralysis, glare and lick are driven by fear for example. Really all thunder wave’s “paralysis” is just seems to be caused by mere shock, which considering how there are so many things willing to give Yoshi a shock in his game that he can handle, it really makes me feel that Pikachu’s is nothing new as well.
That's your opinion, and you very well know that I'm able to counter any of those arguements you have on DK.
If by counter any argument you mean to just ignore everything Wario does (good job with the running across water thing, saying it doesn’t count despite the fact that Wario in other games can hit speeds like that w/o a pipe) then yes I guess you’ve countered the argument pretty well.
So here I'm disagreeing again. DK > Wario. But only slightly. It's mostly his agileness, punching speed and Sound Wave attack that Wario REALLY has no answer against that makes DK better.
How is DK stronger? Wario can remove large chucks of land with his shock wave only.
Wario also shows off incredible acrobatic skills such as seen in that clown boss I’ve shown a few times, sense when can DK spin that fast?
You seem to think that the sound wave is this magic attack all that stops Wario, but you don’t seem to be aware that the blast really only works with projectiles (and even then not all of them), so how come you don’t see that the blast has two parts of it? The red part is really nothing more than DK’s arm range which is why that part is stronger in the 1st place.
Oh and please tell me what makes you think DK could take Wario when he is under the effects of a mega mushroom like Mario? (Yes, he can use them in case you’ve missed that, SM64DS)
Wario actually has a chance vs. Mario and beating him as far as canon goes as far as his growth has gone as a character, DK is royally ****ed with someone like that.
Btw what RWN (or the guy with the 3 digit username starting with a R and has a W somewhere else) said about DK isn't true. DK puts down his enemies fast. You know that.
Yeah, Wario does to, so does Mario, so does everyone else.
Why is your username _clinton anyways? I dunno but I always think of Bill Clinton posting myself.
Why do you care about my username? ^_^
Good, as long as you know it is more than
just a stick that doesn’t bug me. I’m not going to get into how Lucas is chances are an expert with the staff ATM, but as long as you know it would hurt to be smacked by one, than I’m good with that.
I think that's because their of the same game series.
The problem with thinking they are the exact same is that they’re not the same, not with game mechanics, not with story (well it is clear with story at least).
A draw seems the most logical solution, cause it'd depend on who hits who first.
The orbs on that shield also protect from critical hits, destroy any terrain bonus Roy would have, up Marth’s critical hit, dodge rate, hit rate, and it’s not like Marth still can’t attack from a distance as well, oh and if you don’t kill him fast enough he full heals with the life orb, plus I still want to know why the other orbs wouldn’t make it to the point where Roy and others wouldn’t harm Marth at all due to mind control (unless there is some protection from the Sword of Seals I don’t know about along with that +5 defense/resistance), but whatever.
Canon wise Shield > Sword as well.
Oh and as far as remaking FE3 goes, I’m at an even ground. For one thing I hate remakes because most of the time they only seem to be an exact copy of the same game, but with better graphics and the like, and only doing a few things to fix them. However, on the other hand, I can see what a good remake can give:
That game is awesome btw.
Besides, Wario runs over a **** BOOSTER when he does this!
Yeah, and Samus loses her equipment each game as well and sometimes w/o any reason at all (which is clearly BS, I’m ok with a reason because
believe it or not that actually does mean something people, but w/o one that is BS I’ll admit).
They have a reason for it though, and that reason is because giving that stuff to you early would break the game.
Am I like the only one who notices that the games
give you the power ups/booster stuff only whenever you need them? Clearly Wario being able to run across everything all the time if you wanted would be kind of game breaking don’t you think? But hey, don’t take my word for it, try out Wario Land 4 where the speed boost isn’t as great as in WL:SI, but it is clear that the power is sort of broken!
Or how about using a star all the time based off how they have programmed it in the Mario games? That is broken as well, or how about 100% access to the metal cap?
Has abilities from his games. I'm guessing they include SSBB special moves, but those are not canon (except the Waft/Bike).
Also, the Mario wiki has by far better info on Wario:
http://www.mariowiki.com/Wario
Oh and as far as vehicles go, the fact that he gets them in pretty much the same way Mario gets his power ups pretty much shows that Wario carries them around.
The Master of Disguise abilities are a bit more useful, but I'm not sure whether he can have only one or carry them.
The master of disguise abilities are “transformations” not just “outfits.” He isn’t carrying a ton of clothes around with him if that is what you think; they are done with magic (like Zelda does). The game btw is a puzzle platformer as well.
Each additional arrow does +1 HP of damage, but it can go higher than 5 in one of his games. Makes the range of his arrows much bigger.
Wario already busts up all powerful demons with his fists alone, so I don’t see how Pit having stronger arrows is a big deal.
Unlimited Flight. Wario can fly as well though, dunno how useful this would be.
Not very, considering how Wario can also shot Pit down in various vehicles like his personal plane as well, and Wario has more than one way of going into the sky.
Adds a spinning fireball to Pit's arrows.
I don’t know if increasing the projectile size will matter that much, plus I’m pretty sure lighting Wario on Fire is a bad idea anyway for the attacker.
Not useful. Maybe it protects against Wario's ugly face? (kidding)
Poor Wario, he is so self conscious about his looks (check out the character profile in the Wario Land Shake it official site).
I don’t see why it would help with a fighter like Wario as well, considering how he pretty much prefers close range combat.
Two protective crystals fly around Pit in a close arc or something.
Quick foes can still attack Pit when he has this up pretty well, and Wario is fast.
Pit can store up to 8 Water of Life. Water of Life restores Pit's health by 7 once he dies. So Pit can die 8 times before finally falling.
Wario has revive tonics as well if you need them somehow despite his game pretty much being the world’s most one sided fist fights (WL:SI for the tonics though), he can hold more than one in fact. They are full cures. He can also heal himself with his art form if needed as well.
On that note, I’m like shocked you didn’t bring up armor with Pit, is it because Wario has been known to break through armor like a hot knife through butter?
Also, what makes you think Wario can’t rob Pit’s blind? Wario robs people all the time in game. I think that bow would be pretty useless for Pit if Wario is holding it!
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