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Because Skyworld is stupid? Dumb clouds with ambiguous grounding, random platform design, getting caught under the solid parts of the level, it's just a silly stage. Skyloft is fine, I'm guessing you take issue with the stairs section but I think that it's a good addition to balance out CG's given the height of the main platform.
Getting caught under the stage also happens on skyloft, but basically the little gazebo thing and the stairs just make characters face either into the air or into the ground and it can be a bit stupid. It even slows down movement when going up and stuff like that. If the slopes didnt change the angle my character was facing by 45 degrees then i'd consider it a legitimate stage to play on but when you're in those positions you have no reliable grounded options. i dont totally mind it being legal though, I just think ambiguous clouds (i've kinda figured out where the platform is though) are not as bad as suddenly my move's hitboxes are in the ground Lylat's not as horrible as skyloft as the whole stage slants and even if your hitbox is going down the opponent is lowered also (except for where the slants meet the level part of the stage). anyway, either 1 of 3 is fine for me, ill just ban it.
Nah...
Dracula's is a bit longer than Dreamland, but shorter than PS2/PS1. Blastzones are far away, like Dreamland. Assuming no DI, C.Falcon dies to Pika's Upsmash at 94 at FoD,98 at Dracula's,and 104 at Dreamland.
Size maybe, platforms I'm not sure about since they move around a lot.
The only change i would make to this is to put skyloft in instead of metal cavern, metal cavern really blows in doubles, but is also still heniously big for its actual stage size. If anything though i feel like skyloft is a pretty deep and complex stage that people are just not willing to invest time into compared to our standard melee style stages which are pretty straightforward.
I like skyloft's design too! But the ceiling and lower blastline is too low for my liking. Metal Cavern does indeed looks bad for doubles though so leave it for singles only then? If we add in skyloft with Distant Planet and Dracula's, there would be many long stages; those two stages seem more fair compared to Skyloft.
skyloft over draculas imo easy
ur bad washed up pm joke player l2p idiot
Actually I changed my mind, it's not too bad.
Metal Cavern sucks for doubles because lack of area to move around, it's blastlines are very similar to FoD, so why is FoD considered a neutral? Don't let the camera angles fool you the ceiling practically the same as FoD.
cant be a hasbeen if you neverwas, Phil
bad influence on the community total bully banned forever
Distant Planet should also be in singles imo. Stage is not as big as you guys think.
It is extremely hard to satisfy everyone, but at least I have a Redact approved stage list
After some self testing, I concluded that Metal Cavern is more iffy than it looks. The right blast line is closer to the stage compared to the left one by a significant amount. I don't know of any other legal stages that suffer from such a trait.
I rather keep 14 stages legal, makes it easier for people to understand/adjust which stages are banned at the Stage Select Screen, i.e bottom row starters and middle row CP.
Some characters are disadvantaged heavily, or too good with 1 ban with those 7 stages. With more stages/bans to work with it, it makes match ups more evenly scaled imo. Perhaps working with that 14 for now then removing more stages later once we get more feedback.
I'm glad a lot of us agree on this. No.1 priority for me was getting rid of that stage.
that's actually pretty wrong.
Like what?
Distant Planet is approx same length as PS1, but does those two leaves at the end really allow Fox to circle camp? I can see that being a possibility, though Ganon's wavelands on the two middle platforms are fast.
About WW, the only thing that kills Ganon at 60% is Uthrow upair at top platform, same thing as YS. Side blastlines are stupidly close, so it favours Ganon doesn't it?
An Improvement and I like it but these guys hate Dracula's for whatever reason lol
My personal favourite stage is Distant Planet, but I couldn't find a way to put it in, Dracula's is the most viable and unique out of the 'large' stages. If there is another medium size stage that's not jank I'd add Warioware, Distant Planet, + that medium sized stage, but there aren't any. Either too big, too small or too jank.
Okay you got me. Either this...
We've all had that mindset at one stage, back in the early melee days we had stages like mute city and brinstar legal lol....
