phi1ny3
Not the Mama
Yeah Lain thinks it's even.
Meep says it's 40:60
I can say for myself it's pretty even, unfortunately it's a really gay MU where you live in fear the whole time lol.
I think personally it's an "arm race" in the sense that the Lucario player will make more grabbable mistakes if the ICs mess up, but as soon as the ICs player learns to infinite Lucario all of a sudden Lucario will start to actually learn to play with better spacing. A lot of IC players on the boards aren't conscious about how abusive some characters can be with the right platforms, and so imo they skew sometimes with the idea that every match is a direct confrontation.
For example, Pikachu v. ICs is often viewed as even by Pikachu players because they abuse the ledge game really well and have several separation methods. ICs view it as in their favor (from what I've heard) because many of the moves Pika throws out can be abusable by pivot grab, which is both theoretically true and untrue due to circumstance.
@FWK: Camping with BAS is a terrible idea, the ice blocks have a hitbox that pretty much shields them from that trajectory, and your effort is best spent just getting on that holy grail that is the platform. tl;dr we are majorly outcamped in this MU lol, but Ice blocks are only really effective on the stage level, platforms take away a lot of its capability to force reactions.
Meep says it's 40:60
I can say for myself it's pretty even, unfortunately it's a really gay MU where you live in fear the whole time lol.
I think personally it's an "arm race" in the sense that the Lucario player will make more grabbable mistakes if the ICs mess up, but as soon as the ICs player learns to infinite Lucario all of a sudden Lucario will start to actually learn to play with better spacing. A lot of IC players on the boards aren't conscious about how abusive some characters can be with the right platforms, and so imo they skew sometimes with the idea that every match is a direct confrontation.
For example, Pikachu v. ICs is often viewed as even by Pikachu players because they abuse the ledge game really well and have several separation methods. ICs view it as in their favor (from what I've heard) because many of the moves Pika throws out can be abusable by pivot grab, which is both theoretically true and untrue due to circumstance.
@FWK: Camping with BAS is a terrible idea, the ice blocks have a hitbox that pretty much shields them from that trajectory, and your effort is best spent just getting on that holy grail that is the platform. tl;dr we are majorly outcamped in this MU lol, but Ice blocks are only really effective on the stage level, platforms take away a lot of its capability to force reactions.
