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Fact check:
M2K and Azen, who were 2 of the top players in Melee, came to our state and won. Azen lost to our 2nd best player in tournament and only won their second set in losers when he switched to MK. Just because M2K and Azen are so good does not mean you are good. In fact, trying to say your entire region is awesome because they live there makes you look like a scrub.
Really? When has a Snake beat Azen or M2K's MK? Because those are your top MKs. Everyone else is inexperienced in comparison or scrubs.
Just because most people want him banned for certain reasons does not dispute the validity of arguments presented by people like OS and myself. In fact, people in your camp just ignore our arguments when they are presented because there seems to be no reasonable response other than foolish comparisons to completely different games.
Uh, you even SAID that you ledgecamp for a few seconds to get yourself breathing room while in a match.
Unless I read that wrong.
1. No.
When M2K stayed at my house for a week, we went practically even in his MK vs my Snake. I don't know if that means much, but it certainly shows that Snake wins if I can beat a better play half the time.
MK actually has a bad match and several even/slight advantage ones. That's why he shouldn't be banned.
wow you don't get it at all. Using it as a stalling tactic as a primary strategy to stall the timer during matches (like Plank does) is going to be banned by bum, me, chibo, and possibly FL people as well.
Good argument. It would make more sense if M2K was referring to the latter when he is talking about "ledge camping" in tournaments.
So, because you can't get around it, even though it's possible to get around, you decide to ban it?
Doesn't M2K's reasoning behind banning ledgestalling resemble the MK ban situation a little too well?
QFT
Okay.
Yes! mains Snake and Fox.
Isn't that why people pick mk...? lol
Lol. Troof.
According to several sources (see below), including M2K, MK has characters that counter him and disadvantageous stage picks.
Thoughts? Do the above arguments nullify the argument to ban MK? And back to my original point: Is it possible that that people are spending too much time complaining about MK and not enough time simply learning his tactics and how to counter them in a match?
Posting the same thing in two different threads is naughty. I'll grab a couple of my quotes from the other, you can click the reference if you want to see the whole thing.
So no, that's not enough yet to answer MK dominating the counterpick system. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you don't start as MK (Unless you're a good enough Snake and you *know* your opponent will pick MK -- and they can't counterpick your Snake in return -- though even then, that just causes the example I worked through and is still advantaged to MK. The only way to advantage vs. MK is if you go Snake -> MK -> Snake (On second loss) -- and hey look, to do that you're centralizing the metagame by your secondary being MK)
The goal is to win. You're not allowed to determine how you win.
The problem is stupid TOs banning stuff like Norfair. (No offense TOs who ban Norfair)
Looking at your join date and post history, I think a "do you have another account here?" question would be viable, as well. >.>
If someone is undecided on something, but do you bother to vote in the first place?
Nofair = nothing but unstoppable ledgecamping and running out the clock.
