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You cant possibly think this is a good idea.Just use Nair and Up-B with GW and you can plank like a master.
Btw, has anyone suggested that Metaknight just suicide the first stock each match? MK mains don't have to find a new character, but they start off at a disadvantage and even out the metagame. You could do it with Snake too, because he has his own tier.
This logic is flawed.
lol w0t? is the tier list 2.0 your only source of info/experience to support this?
Correction, Stacy's a *****.
ya whats up with that? Is it because of people erasing their posts?
that can apply to the whole cast vs mk. his conjecture however was that zard in particular is a 100:0 mu on mk. though i realize mk does have some advantage in the match up i dislike seeing highly exaggerated points like this because it actually gives the pro-ban side less credibility.
A Charizard has a much better chance of taking out a Metaknight of equal skill who knows the matchup than a Sonic does.
No if you think about it Charizard has good fight ability right but Sonic has speed well MK has both due to the advance aerial techniques MK has Charizard is toast. But sonic on the other hand can just keep on Mk to a kill just look at ___X___ he owns with sonic and he can beat most MK's
The hell did you get THIS info? <_<"
Considering both character's pros and cons... Charizard has more killing options (although he is slower). The chance that a charizard might beat an MK of equal skill more than a Sonic might beat an MK of equal skill, I find quite plausible... Although not "much more" than Sonic, maybe just a tiny bit more.
i didn't say it was the general concensus. i was just pointing out that one person's flawed statement
Ah, alright then. My bad for misunderstanding.
In Japan, it's equal in weight. Japan does not hard ban characters. Even Akuma in Street Fighter 2 Turbo is only soft banned- the top players won't play him, and bad players pick him and lose and are laughed at and publically humiliated.
Name them.
actually, provide video proof
Could someone please provide real evidence of Meta Knight tearing up the tournaments? He does the best, but for an allegedly ban-worthy character, his tournament results are decidedly unimpressive. I don't think there are even two major tournaments in which Meta Knight controlled half of the placements (I know about WHOBO; find another one). Double points if you don't give him full points for being a part of a split (it's kinda dumb to give Meta Knight full credit for a second place in which the player also used Snake liberally, for instance).
If you recognize the names you won't need video proof.
If CHariard has a much better chance (60:40) than Sonic, it implies that Sonic is hard countered by metaknight.
They're both not promising results, but they're also just 2 examples out of the HUGE amount of large tourneys (and small ones) held, plus not even near WHOBO's MK dominance..
I have no recollection of the event in question.
They fit the Criterion that AA asked for. And why do they count wario for spammer anyways? He only used him against Ally, and he lost anyways.
Given that tournament results are more relevant than tournament names or tournament reputations, yes, a link to the results would be rather useful.
I said what I said so people who want to say "OH MY GOD 2 MORE EXAMPLES! MK MUST BE BROKEN DUE TO THESE RESULTS!" could keep their mouths shut. Otherwise, I wouldnt've looked for the links and just sat back and relaxed wile everyone was too lazy to look for them.
Look above you. Kewkky posted them in his quote.
K. I'm just saying that AA asked for more tourneys like that, and got them.
You've... never been outside the USA, have you? Saving face and being courteous are a huge part of the culture in Japan. Its not goofy, either. Most of the world before "Americanization" held these values as all important. They still do, to a certain extent. If you were to go about breaking the soft ban at will just to win, you'd have no friends in the community, few people would be willing to even talk with you, etc. You would be held in disdain. This in and of itself is a good deterrent in that kind of culture. The only reason why I could see that they would want to hard ban anything in that kind of culture would be if someone like you (if you are the way you just described yourself to be) came along that didn't care about anything except getting that win. I wouldn't doubt that whoever did it with Akuma is still being shunned by the community. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't look at other cultures through your personal cultural lens. Yours isn't the only way of thinking, nor is it necessarily correct in context.
I agree fully... if the argument is that Metaknight is broken, which he isn't. Over centralization, on the other hand, spans the entire community. Just looking at the top spots would mean overlooking a large number of people who chose Metaknight that may not have been as "skilled" as the top players.
The "good" MKs you face obviously don't abuse the tornado, because the tornado seriously messes up Charizard. Yes, Charizard has nice power moves to take care of Metaknight, but good luck landing them on an MK that is willing to take advantage of Charizard's size. Let's not forget Metaknight's ridiculous priority. Marth is a pain for Charizard, I can't even imagine how you think that Metaknight isn't an even bigger pain.
