Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[DtJ Jungle]

Didn't watch the vid, but can gather from elven you dash attack alot on puff

not smart. you can get cc rested out of it

its really really homo homo.

 

[Tomacawk]

That was really helpful. Thanks.
I'd like to get a few videos of my sheik vs nonpuff though because I doubt I'd ever go sheik>falcon against a puff in tourny

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Jigglypuff CC Rests everything. We hates it, Gollum!

But yeah, Jigglypuff's different from most characters. It's hard to make judgments off of vids against Jigglypuff. Honestly though, I'd be most at home playing Sheik against Jigglypuff.

Especially because of that stupid dthrow to uair crap. ****ing Sheik mains don't know how **** lucky they are.

 

[TresChikon]

While on the topic of Jiggs, is it a good idea to purposely trade hits with Jiggs since she should die at lower percents anyways?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

It's hard to purposefully trade hits with Jigglypuff. My first instinct is to say no, though, because Jigglypuff recovers fast, and if you get like uaired or utilted, say hello to Rest.

 

[TresChikon]

Ah that sounds bad. What about trading hits while Jiggs is just aiming for pokes and fairs?

I got the same advice for Ganon, and I'm curious if it would apply to other characters such as Sheik.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Ganon's a monster tank, though.

 

[KirbyKaze]

While on the topic of Jiggs, is it a good idea to purposely trade hits with Jiggs since she should die at lower percents anyways?

That's a horrible idea.

anybody????

Don't walk/stand/run/jump into her moves so much.

 

[TresChikon]

Hah thanks, I guess the trade is stupid.

 

[KirbyKaze]

It's acceptable if she's at 120%+ and she'll die and you'll live, but otherwise not really.

 

[Virgilio]

I Cant do anything to falco when he is near me; shine shine uptilt nair shine bla bla, I shield and I have to roll, if not all my attempts to grab fails .

There is some specific DI I should do when that bird approaches with his shine ****?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Shield DI away. Second shine'll miss, bam, you grab.

 

[Virgilio]

With the stick only or with the stick AND the c-stick?

**** this frustrates me so much

 

[TresChikon]

Well the with the control stick I think you'll get the ASDI input automatically, hence the name, so it really doesn't matter if you use the C-stick since you're just DI'ing in one direction

 

[Virgilio]

Thanks :D
I dont know what ASDI means but i will try to DI away like you guys are telling me to do.
Hope it works, Im sick of falco

 

[Tomacawk]

Im sick of falco

i'm pretty sure everybody is

 

[TresChikon]

Well it should look like this, everyone has been talking about since Magus posted it in the Ganon boards.

The first one is with no SDI or ASDI before grabbing the shine, and the one underneath it is the exact same conditions except with a SDI and then the ASDI away+pushback happens 2 frames later.

 

[Tomacawk]

magus is seriously the greatest poster in the history of forums

 

[DtJ Jungle]

He's the prize in my cracker jacks.

 

[Tomacawk]

He's the villain in my favorite RPG, too

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Shield DI works pretty much the same as smash DI, if I remember correctly. 'Sbeen a while since I've raided Magus' files on DC++ though.

 

[earla]

which part of sheik's up b can you hit her out of?

can someone please explain that magus420 DI technique more clearly and simply?
how do you sdi, asdi in melee?

thanks

 

[elvenarrow3000]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=60218

Sheik is errr... vincible up to and including frame seventeen of her Vanish. That's when her body is horizontal.

 

[Tero.]

I Cant do anything to falco when he is near me; shine shine uptilt nair shine bla bla, I shield and I have to roll, if not all my attempts to grab fails .

There is some specific DI I should do when that bird approaches with his shine ****?

Shield DI away. Second shine'll miss, bam, you grab.

I'm not sure if this is the right advice for someone on his level.
Actually I am sure. It is not.

Try to WD Back and Ftilt/Dsmash or SH back fair.

 

[earla]

sorry i still don't understand the Magus420 DI thing away from falco's dair- shine.

could someone please tell me the exact button input? physically what to do?

confusing.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Just don't worry about it.

Just wd back oos after the shine. then do stuff.

 

[TresChikon]

Well during hitlag from the dair and shine, you can't roll or do anything, so that's the window to input your DI.

During those couple of golden frames, wiggle your control stick at the left (or right, you'd want to hold away from it) wedge/crease thing. You should literally see your character shift in that direction. Then after that you can grab.

Yeah, but if that really doesn't make sense, listen to Junglefever. It'll make sense in due time.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I'm not sure if this is the right advice for someone on his level.
Actually I am sure. It is not.

Try to WD Back and Ftilt/Dsmash or SH back fair.

B-But.

=(

 

[AnDaLe]

anyone wanna link me on how exactly i Smash Di and Automatic Smash DI?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=60218

Sheik is errr... vincible up to and including frame seventeen of her Vanish. That's when her body is horizontal.

Already did.

 

[AnDaLe]

yea, too lazy to look a page back. haha

 

[earla]

is smash DI with the C stick?

so when falco does the dair, you mash the C-stick away.?

then ASDI kicks in and i can grab out of shield after falcos shine? hahaha?

 

[TresChikon]

SDI and ASDI are with the control stick, you can alter the ASDI if you'd want two different directions by using the C-stick, but since you only want to DI away in one direction, the control stick will take care of everything.

 

[earla]

it's as simple as shielding and holding the control stick away then grabbing then?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

You have to tap in a direction during the shield stun.

 

[TresChikon]

I think you'll roll if you hold the direction, which defeats the purpose.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

No, 'cause you're in shield stun. Rolls buffer through the C-stick.

 

[soap]

c stick rolls are so amazing

i hate how u cant buffer roll in brawl

 

[TresChikon]

Doesn't brawl already have a huge buffer for like everything?

I dunno, maybe that's just the self-righteous, pompous, melee elitist *ss part of me speaking.

 

[ChivalRuse]

I buffer spot dodges too much. Lol. I get ***** for it. Buffered rolls are better, by far.