Binx
Smash Master
OMG!!! tooo sexy <3 soap
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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA
- Thread starter KirbyKaze
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soap
Smash Hero
ive been all about the edge camp tricks lately haha
i finally got my frame perfect ledgedash down super consistent, so i feel like i can do anything then just grab the ledge and charge back in all invincible
i finally got my frame perfect ledgedash down super consistent, so i feel like i can do anything then just grab the ledge and charge back in all invincible
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
i lost my ability to ledgedash, time to practice or something
also i find cc grab doesn't work on falcon that spaces
stupid nair
also i find cc grab doesn't work on falcon that spaces
stupid nair
soap
Smash Hero
for the ledgedash, try practicing it without fastfalling. ONce u get that down u can go as fast as u want and u wont SD hardly ever from airdodging too early.
i practiced it with ganon for a half an hour and do no fastfall with all my characters even though u can fastfall with others. i find it quicker and less risky.
ive also been working on no fastfall dj with stick fair off ledge. u can do double fair super easy this way. Plus u can use neutral or retreating DI if they do something gay like shield or CC and u wont get embarrased like u did by that vwins dsmash in that one vid.
(i started to practice smash again for some reason, i dont know why, i never go to tournies
)
i practiced it with ganon for a half an hour and do no fastfall with all my characters even though u can fastfall with others. i find it quicker and less risky.
ive also been working on no fastfall dj with stick fair off ledge. u can do double fair super easy this way. Plus u can use neutral or retreating DI if they do something gay like shield or CC and u wont get embarrased like u did by that vwins dsmash in that one vid.
(i started to practice smash again for some reason, i dont know why, i never go to tournies
)
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I watched TV today and my favourite character died.
I'm sad now.
But yeah soap's our intelligence unit in the "let's make Sheik gayer" army, we're working on it diligently, or at least we will be come the summer. Sheik's taking Genesis by storm son.
Like, after Mango, Shiz, SS, PC Chris (but I hear he quit, which makes me sad), Darkrain, Cactuar, Jman, M2K (who is liable to go Sheik a lot 'cuz that's how he rolls), and a few other notables who wouldn't classify themselves as Sheiks, I want to see some Sheik luvin'. Rep that **** and tap that *****.
I'm sad now.
But yeah soap's our intelligence unit in the "let's make Sheik gayer" army, we're working on it diligently, or at least we will be come the summer. Sheik's taking Genesis by storm son.
Like, after Mango, Shiz, SS, PC Chris (but I hear he quit, which makes me sad), Darkrain, Cactuar, Jman, M2K (who is liable to go Sheik a lot 'cuz that's how he rolls), and a few other notables who wouldn't classify themselves as Sheiks, I want to see some Sheik luvin'. Rep that **** and tap that *****.
soap
Smash Hero
i dont watch tv
sorry
sorry
Grrr you should also know i fail at typing by now and miss the space key alotTsk tsk what english major uses "alot"?
Its 'a lot' Travis
Binx
Smash Master
lols how do you miss the space key? of all keys thats the one I miss the least.
What I hate is physically missing the c-stick and whiffing an easy punish =(
What I hate is physically missing the c-stick and whiffing an easy punish =(
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I hate messing up chain grabs. It makes me so angry.
soap
Smash Hero
i gave up on chaingrabbing cuz im so bad at it at low percents
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I used to be able to do it as low as 3-4% prior to grab with fully staled D-throw (could get it at 0 with about a 33% consistency) but now I'm really bad at it, I haven't practiced it in forever, and practicing D-throw chain grab is so boring so I don't feel like doing it except before tournaments where Kage is going or people from WC or if I'm going to the US (or if US is coming to Canada).
edit: I've never been able to chain grab Roy consistently below like 20% if he DIs away. His fall speed makes it so hard for me. I find Ganon, Sheik, Pikachu, Link, and YLink have much greater room for error.
edit: I've never been able to chain grab Roy consistently below like 20% if he DIs away. His fall speed makes it so hard for me. I find Ganon, Sheik, Pikachu, Link, and YLink have much greater room for error.
My space key doesn't work properly
I also never chaingrab cuz i blow hard at it.
I also never chaingrab cuz i blow hard at it.
Horrible johns Travis 
lol jk jk
I can CG okay I guess.....
lol jk jkI can CG okay I guess.....
DoH
meleeitonme.tumblr.com
If you're talking about Izzie she deserved it.
PS, I play Sheik now. With my Peach, that's a whole lot of ******ry.
LOL
I play Peach does that make me a ***got too?
I play Peach
does that make me a ***got too?
I play peach in brawl
***gotry x2
***gotry x2
DoH
meleeitonme.tumblr.com
Only if you sleep with men.
So probably.
So probably.
Cia
das kwl
i play peach and sheik in melee and brawl.
that's about as manly as it gets
that's about as manly as it gets
Faithkeeper
Smash Lord
2 questions:
1. What's the deal with the sideb edgeguard against spacies? I saw it in shackdaddy's tips and tricks video, but I've never seen anyone use it. Are there just usually better options?
2. What are some of the better options for when you have an opponent above you on a platform? I've seen people (not pros) full hop nair, but wouldn't that just get you on the platform, isn't that is rarely a good place to be?
1. What's the deal with the sideb edgeguard against spacies? I saw it in shackdaddy's tips and tricks video, but I've never seen anyone use it. Are there just usually better options?
2. What are some of the better options for when you have an opponent above you on a platform? I've seen people (not pros) full hop nair, but wouldn't that just get you on the platform, isn't that is rarely a good place to be?
soap
Smash Hero
the problem with the chain is that it is slow so u have to know that they are coming in low. And if u had time to chain, u had time to reverse needle onto the edge and bair which will actually consistently kill them.
I use the chain on marth/roy if i cant get to the edge in time, cuz their upb is quick.
people above u, use sh delayed fair/uair/bair, or full hop spaced bair. I also like to waveland utilt the back of shields
I use the chain on marth/roy if i cant get to the edge in time, cuz their upb is quick.
people above u, use sh delayed fair/uair/bair, or full hop spaced bair. I also like to waveland utilt the back of shields
R3N0
Smash Lord
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if they're on a platform, you waveland and grab them... or you can do a full hop (this is on like battlefield) do a full hop.. wait til you are just about to land and then nair (they're usually shielding), if they block it, jab and then do an immediate isai drop fair. it gets you in and out pretty quick while weakening their shield. if your game is fast, you'll have no problem. also forward b edgegaurding is like.. so the 06'. lol its boring. its lame. and if its a good fox he'll just dodge up. its worthless.. u can just needle / bair edgeguard.. so much betterrrrrrrrrr
and chain vs marth roy?? you crazy.. you do like needle / fair lol.
and chain vs marth roy?? you crazy.. you do like needle / fair lol.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
light shield or grab edge + back air, pick one against marth, he can't do anything if you pay attention to him.
Jartravious
Smash Journeyman
im new to the sheik boards/melee and a lot of the information im finding seems to be contradicted by other posts. Is there any place that has more up to date info such as matchups or where I can find older information that stayed the same such as specifics on techniques such as reverse needles and the like?
Techniques you can ask here if you can't find it on the first page.
Match up guides are biased so it can contradict because there is not one complete correct answer.
You can ask them here too if you'd like or ask others w/e.
And Welcome to ... well the Melee forums!
Sheik boards critique my vids!
they are under "Jungle's Sheik Video archive" in the Sheik subforum
Thanks ^_^
they are under "Jungle's Sheik Video archive" in the Sheik subforum
Thanks ^_^
soap
Smash Hero
have u gone all fox for an entire tourney yet?
i keep trying to, but i **** out and use sheik for stuff, like marth + samus.
LMAO
I help out the sheik boards being a fox main too
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG FUKO
adorable.
adorable.
Binx
Smash Master
LOL I went from ICs and Fox to mostly sheik in tourney, I think she suits my style better, I like her spacing more, I do miss being able to shine but then I remember how good my recovery and edgeguarding is now. Oh and intercepting aerials with forward tilts into tech chases is probably my new favorite thing in smash, I mean its right up there with Nana killing someone with a smash while I'm dying off the screen.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Fox's SHFFL Nair completed takes less time than Sheik's F-tilt.
Man why is fox so underpowered in melee?
Cmon Travis, its clearly Captian Fuko of the Staryu fleet GAWD!
Cia
das kwl
lol @ reno being a fox main.
he's gone sheik on every opponent that was even slightly threatening.
I'M the fox main
he's gone sheik on every opponent that was even slightly threatening.
I'M the fox main
Jartravious
Smash Journeyman
what do you guys recommend to do vs peach she is definitely my hardest match up. The peach I play the most is known for being insanely lucky with pulling death turnips although his tech skill is lacking. What are some good approaches to keep peach from turnip camping? Also I feel that my recovery is really predictable so anyway to change it up?
off topic but could someone explain/show me an example of reverse needling?
off topic but could someone explain/show me an example of reverse needling?
Binx
Smash Master
reverse needle canceling is just using needles to turn around in the air, you press away on the control stick and then use neutral b and it it turns you around in the air, press shield to cancel the needle charge and then you can bair in the direction you were jumping, its only marginally useful, but hey its there.
As for peach turnip camping, you have 2 options, stay EVEN further and needle her, or stay about Marth's fsmash range close to her and hit her whenever she tries to do stuff. I like option 2.
As for peach turnip camping, you have 2 options, stay EVEN further and needle her, or stay about Marth's fsmash range close to her and hit her whenever she tries to do stuff. I like option 2.
soap
Smash Hero
what the fux is that batman sig, is that from a real episode?
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Justice League