Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[Teczer0]

Yea he did beat me one game.

So I didn't take the risk and just went sheik .

And only game 3 where I almost 4 stocked him got recorded .

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

so where is sheik hurtbox? i guess its the part of her body that isnt disjointed?

 

[Tero.]

so where is sheik hurtbox? i guess its the part of her body that isnt disjointed?

The yellow bubbles are her hurtboxes, the red ones are the Bair Hitboxes.
In the picture you can see her Bair on frame 5 (1 frame after the hitbox came out).

 

[-Jumpman-]

Tec0, is that "Amash" some kind of inside joke? O_o

 

[Teczer0]

Tec0, is that "Amash" some kind of inside joke? O_o

.....????

I'm so confused what you mean

 

[soap]

i wanna go to pound

but im blowing all my money on nyc for new years

i know the deadline to reserve tickets is new years too

we can still buy at the door right?

 

[-Jumpman-]

.....????

I'm so confused what you mean

If you're talking about Nihonjin, his name is "Amsah."

 

[soap]

just another spelling error im sure

sheik boards l2spell

 

[-Jumpman-]

just another spelling error im sure

sheik boards l2spell

Wouldn't call it an error, he's been doing it in every post.

 

[Teczer0]

Oh.. I didn't know, i always thought its Amash .

Its spelling/knowledge failure.

Soap, you're going to NYC for New Years O_O?

 

[soap]

amsah always looked a smash palindrome, well not a palindrome, forgot what its called, but whatever

but ya im goin to new york to club and hang out, maybe drop some x

jk on that last part

 

[pockyD]

anagram .

 

[DJRome]

lamal .

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

62626
lololol

 

[Lawrencelot]

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

i actually had to look up palindromes >.>
i like anagrams more
as in peach is an anagram for cheap

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

omg kirbykaze i just realized what your location is. lol that made me laugh so hard

 

[KirbyKaze]

Lol

I love these boards sometimes

But not usually

/dark and mysterious

 

[Queen]

And Sheik is an anagram for hikes...wait, what?

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

And Sheik is an anagram for hikes...wait, what?

Awesome.
Sheik is an anagram for awesome.
LOOK IT UP SON

 

[Lordydennek]

Our boards are superior.

btw. i had a horrible off day yesterday. I couldnt hardly do anything with shiek. it seemed like no matter what i did i couldnt outplay my friends mains. I usually put in good matches and get several wins against their mains, but i think i only won a few times....How often does this happen to you all?

 

[Teczer0]

That happens to me a lot =/.

I guess it happens more often when you try to be a fox main/second though.

Honestly, I just play different characters for a while. When you play and mess up everyone tends to get upset or annoyed that they can't seem to play well.

So I try to loosen up, relax and just try to goof off for a bit.

Though my sheik is so basic it never really happens for my sheik. I mean my sheik's most technical aspect is PCing the edge, and I don't need to use it

 

[Lordydennek]

i see. Yes i switched to link and had more success against my friends fox... idk how that happened. off days do exist i guess. lolz its not all johns

btw my friend Sieg had a nice John. After being three stocked consistently by Leviathan for about 30 mins he said
"Well, your just not good enough."

 

[nicaboy]

I have off days like once or twice every 3 months where i feel like im playin really bad. Generaly its refereed to as choking where even our top professionals play bad. Like wobbles not making it out of pools at pound 2 or 3 one of those. And lampchops not making it out of pools at the greatest melee tourney since brawl came out and i believe rom 2. I have played bad as well in some tournaments especialy when i kill myself. When i sd i feel the need to play really aggressive and it just ****s me up worse. I just keep a calm mind now lol. I feel you though bruh.

 

[Lordydennek]

ya it totally blows. and girl problems dont help... >.<

My friends suggest I give up women and play nonstop smash, since smash is basically a woman.
Im starting to side with them....

 

[nicaboy]

Well i wouldn't say all that. The time i got off from school i play smash about 2 or 3 times a week while blancing my social life. While that would probably make you better i would never suggest someone give up relations with friends girlfriends/boyfriends. Whatever floats your boat anyway maintain a social life imo is good for you. Why throw that on a video game. Matter fact i plan on playin less smash to focus on school since i start next week. I didn't due amazing cuz i didn't care to study and was more into girls . Not studying for ap history didn't help lol. Now that im in college i plan on studying alot since my money is on the line. Im a man who doesn't like to waste his money lol. Dude bottom line play smash and have friends man.

 

[KirbyKaze]

At times like this it's good to be gay

 

[Teczer0]

I don't recommend giving up on a relationship for a video game >_>.

Relationship problems happen in every relationship. Don't give up on it for melee >_>.

Use melee as a stress reliever if anything.

KK - LMFAO or be a loser like meeeeeeee xD

God boredom sucks so much.

 

[nicaboy]

Kk are you gay irl? Personaly i could care less but since you said it i wanna know lol. You don't come off as gay imo but i havent seen you in like a year. I hear wife is gay i met him and i have my opinion on it. Regardless it didn't matter since he was mad chill and a good guy. Except for the part where he took my money

 

[KirbyKaze]

Kk are you gay irl? Personaly i could care less but since you said it i wanna know lol. You don't come off as gay imo but i havent seen you in like a year. I hear wife is gay i met him and i have my opinion on it. Regardless it didn't matter since he was mad chill and a good guy. Except for the part where he took my money

When did we meet?

o.O

edit: TGMTSBCO?

 

[DJRome]

sheik baiting into spotdodge *awaits KK dsmash*

 

[Lawrencelot]

Against Fox, what do you have to do to make sure you suddenly grab the ledge after you get shined?

 

[nicaboy]

When did we meet?

o.O

edit: TGMTSBCO?

ya sheik peach wasn't the funist match with you you know. Til i took you to mute city<.<. Silly silly sheik

 

[Yomi-no-Kuni]

Against Fox, what do you have to do to make sure you suddenly grab the ledge after you get shined?

press towards the stage

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

^^^^ hey i used to rep that avatar. treat it well, friend.

 

[KirbyKaze]

sheik baiting into spotdodge *awaits KK dsmash*

My D-smash does 1% more than other D-smashes against Peach

Drephen's does 3% more to everyone though, it's really broken and unfair

 

[LooksLikePit]

How do I beat Ganon?

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

el oh el chain throw > ftilt> slap

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

awww d*mn just checked amsah will be at pound 4

 

[unknown522]

How do I beat Ganon?

KK post

The main things that Ganons do are

1) jump back (or stationary) Fair
2) jump back (or stationary) Bair
3) Fair, Uair, or up-angled F-tilt when you're above them
4) F-tilt or Jab when you're ground level with them
5) Dair if you're below them

1 and 5 are countered by jumping and doing moves.

2 is tricky, you have to either go over it, under it, or make them turn around with needles. It's sort of hard to DD grab because they can SH Bair and then immediately DJ, and the SHFF Bair autocancels so there's not much lag.

3 is countered by not being above them. There's not much advantage to being above Ganon, if there is an advantage there at all. So don't be there.

4 is countered by DD grab.

So basically all you have to do is camp and DD when you're grounded and close to them (don't get too close) and jump at them when they jump back to do really, really slow moves. Don't run into their moves.

If they're approaching you, your ground movement and faster startup will win the matchup.

Duck goes under his grab, Jab, non-low F-tilts, F-smash, D-smash, U-smash. So abuse that when you're both grounded. Ganons will likely low their F-tilts (or use D-tilts) to counter this but then they sacrifice the range of the F-tilt to do that and the D-tilt is laggy so you just have to keep outside that range and your duck will be safe provided you can react to and handle Side B, Down B, and Up+B shenanigans.

If you're close to them in shield, crouch is very good. However, beware of Up+B OoS, it's much faster and more ranged than you think it is. However, nobody does it.

If it's an option, combo into grab and chain grab. If you have the chance to combo with D-tilt or D-smash, consider if you could grab instead. If so, do it and chain grab them with no remorse.