Kupo Rose
It's what my cutie mark is telling me ♫
I wonder if they had any other notable Sonics other than RATS.
@Shado: Never did. Never willlllllll.
@Shado: Never did. Never willlllllll.
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Social SGD: The hedgehogs are back in town.
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Kupo Rose
It's what my cutie mark is telling me ♫
Urm...
How's RATS? xD
How's RATS? xD
Chis
Finally a legend
USA chants for the lulz.
Kinzer
Mammy
Espy you're so mean to people not in the Steak clan. Why? 
I don't know, it would be nice to know if any of them keep up with Sonic boards. Then again if they did that they probably already know how to speak English and they only thing that keeps them from introducing themselves is that we're scary (at first).
...And it probably doesn't get any less strange even after they are welcomed in. >_>
I don't know, it would be nice to know if any of them keep up with Sonic boards. Then again if they did that they probably already know how to speak English and they only thing that keeps them from introducing themselves is that we're scary (at first).
...And it probably doesn't get any less strange even after they are welcomed in. >_>
infomon
Smash Scientist
tell them to go on a winning steak.
the meme must spread further, mwahaha
^^ also tell them to do this.
lots of this.
bwahahaha
the meme must spread further, mwahaha
^^ also tell them to do this.
lots of this.bwahahaha
~TBS~
Smash Champion
the only two japanese sonics i know of is SEVEN! (UAAHUGH) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjcz1KUXGZM&feature=related and RATS, who we havent heard from in forever...and what infzy said.
Boxob.
Smash Lord
Shuttle loop's a way better character than sonic
Joemama8
Smash Journeyman
Japan, where's that...
Neat little AT's, I found something that may or may not be new. I can get sonic's fsmash to go roughly 2x further than a regular stutterstep fsmash. For testing purposes, I used the length of FD. It takes approx 23-24 stutterstep smashes to get across the level. With this new way I can bridge the whole level in 10-11 smashes.
The idea is to tap the stick forward before doing the stutterstep smash. This gives you a bit of a boost and makes sonics fsmash go ridiculously far. It is just tap forward>tap back>C-stick direction.
Again, not sure if it's new, but i thought id share. Ill try to get a vid of it soon.
Neat little AT's, I found something that may or may not be new. I can get sonic's fsmash to go roughly 2x further than a regular stutterstep fsmash. For testing purposes, I used the length of FD. It takes approx 23-24 stutterstep smashes to get across the level. With this new way I can bridge the whole level in 10-11 smashes.
The idea is to tap the stick forward before doing the stutterstep smash. This gives you a bit of a boost and makes sonics fsmash go ridiculously far. It is just tap forward>tap back>C-stick direction.
Again, not sure if it's new, but i thought id share. Ill try to get a vid of it soon.
Chis
Finally a legend
Still sounds like a stutter step to me.
Kupo Rose
It's what my cutie mark is telling me ♫
Joemama8
Smash Journeyman
awwww, been discovered..... sad face. oh well
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this right hereShuttle loop's a way better character than sonic
ya
You should try foxtrot > fsmash. You might be able to clear it in like 3-4 lol.
WedginatorX
Smash Champion
VSDJ>FSMASH. Clear it in 2. What now?!?!?!
jk. Works as for mind- ****ing people who are trying to return to the stage though.
jk. Works as for mind- ****ing people who are trying to return to the stage though.
WedginatorX
Smash Champion
It really is helpful. Especially against snake, falco, *insert other characters with terribad recovery here*.
Kupo Rose
It's what my cutie mark is telling me ♫
Chis
Finally a legend
I don't know why people like jab locks. If people know what they're doing, they just smash DI away from you.
hm
But either way, if you can get one jab in, you force them to do their get up animation, and that's exploitable.
Check this out.
B-air>Falcon Punch Brawl true-combo (NOT knee trip > falcon punch, I mean that they can't do anything after the B-air lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZfpG-fKGb8
if they miss the tech, chase and hit with weak B-air so that it forces the jablock bounce, there's enough lag to falcon punch it. legitimately.
For Sonic, this can mean anything ranging from:
- a free grab > pummel > U-throw (or whatever) [move refresh/damage]
- a charged smash [knockback/kill attempt]
- an ASC 2x + aerial combo [25%+ damage]
- side-B > footstool or SLOW [re setup for say, ROB or just techchase..?]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQaX_wg72a4
0:05 - 0:20 exploits the bounce.
~TBS~
Smash Champion
So if it applies to the situation on that vid, side b can be used to punish people ad'ing into the ground right? Shado does this mostly from uthrow. uthrow>dash a bit> side B> footstool. So this is basically a good way to get some damage in...hmm...hm
For Sonic, this can mean anything ranging from:
- a free grab > pummel > U-throw (or whatever) [move refresh/damage]
- a charged smash [knockback/kill attempt]
- an ASC 2x + aerial combo [25%+ damage]
- side-B > footstool or SLOW [re setup for say, ROB or just techchase..?]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQaX_wg72a4
0:05 - 0:20 exploits the bounce.
VSDJ is nice. When in doubt, use some vsdj to make some people clueless. (but dont spam eet. >_<
yep!
As I don't have Brawl with me atm (lol, finals week moooode), can you see if it's possible to do a sideB > footstool > spring (for bounce) > D-air (to land) > SH ASC their getup?
Specifically, if the spring bounce knocks them the opposite direction of your D-air.
If that's possible, it would be pretty awesome -
low %:
sideB > footstool> spring (for bounce) > ASC > footstool > spring for bounce > ASC combo (or if not, at least, U-throw) final punishment.
It's interesting -
We used to try to pull side-B > footstool > spring > D-air for jab locks, but using it specifically to exploit the bounce ...
hot.
Kupo Rose
It's what my cutie mark is telling me ♫
No sleep? o.o
Dedication.
Looking forward to itttt.
Dedication.
Looking forward to itttt.
Nah, screw it. I'll just post my findings here:
Everyone should already know about "ledgeshooting". If not, go watch SonicOrochi's videos.
Obviously, Sonic can do this at any angle or distance from the ledge (for example, when recovering), just as long as the spinshot doesn't grab the ledge.
Ledgeshooting high results in Sonic moving over a distance of land near the ledge while being above it. This allows for aerials. Be aware that using aerials practically stops Sonic's horizontal movement. The angle at which you ledgeshoot judges how far you will move above the level.
Ledgeshooting low results in Sonic sliding over a distance of land near the ledge. Doing so allows for any Smash or tilt, as well as all variations of grabs (so you can pivot grab, Dash attack cancel grab, stutter step fsmash, etc). The angle at which you ledgeshoot judges how far you will slide on the level.
Specials are all also available during either variation of the ledgeshoot.
There's very little difference between DownB and SideB ledgeshots. The only difference is that downB can be done slightly faster. Most stages don't require speedy ledgeshoots unless you want to ledgeshoot high.
At the very least, learning how to ledgeshoot with DownB alone is more difficult, but it's the most flexible. SideB is much, MUCH easier, but it sacrifices the ability to quickly ledgeshoot high (you can still ledgeshoot high, just not as fast as with downB).
DownB also has more risks involved since it's slightly more technical.
I'd say learn both. DownB is more flexible, but SideB has much, much more room for error.
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My experience with ledgeshooting on the levels:
I used the MLG Stages for experimenting, and even so, most levels are consistent so long as they share the same type of grounding as other levels. Keep that in mind.
This is only going to cover sliding, grounded ledgeshots, since air ledgeshots are pretty much universal to the levels. This will also only cover ledgeshooting from the point where you are grabbing the edge, since ledgeshooting is much, MUCH easier to execute at any other point off of any given level (probably be better to call that variant the spinshot, because that's all it is: a spinshot off of the level).
Again, to clarify:
Spinshot: Everyone knows what this is.
Ledgeshot: A spinshot done after falling off the ledge of a level.
Other things to mention:
On Yoshi's Island and Pictochat, mistiming the downB by fastfalling into a spinshot from the ledge results in a regrab of the ledge if you spinshot fast enough. Same applies to other levels with large vertical walls (possibly Green Greens too).
You can regulate the distance of your ledgeshot in two distinct ways:
1: Timing the ledgeshot: By spinshotting during a certain time after the ledge drop, you alter the distance at which you travel.
2: Controlling your ledgeshot prior to landing on the level: During the spinshot, and before you land on the level for the sliding portion, if you hold back, you slow down the speed at which you spinshot travels (though you can't SEE this because you are typically hugging the wall. This can be seen very well on Smashville or Battlefield). This alters the sliding distance your character can travel.
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Anyways, I might make a video or provide pictures sometime down the line, but until then, that's what I experienced while messing around with spinshots and ledgeshots.
Still need to test Green Greens too.
Everyone should already know about "ledgeshooting". If not, go watch SonicOrochi's videos.
Obviously, Sonic can do this at any angle or distance from the ledge (for example, when recovering), just as long as the spinshot doesn't grab the ledge.
Ledgeshooting high results in Sonic moving over a distance of land near the ledge while being above it. This allows for aerials. Be aware that using aerials practically stops Sonic's horizontal movement. The angle at which you ledgeshoot judges how far you will move above the level.
Ledgeshooting low results in Sonic sliding over a distance of land near the ledge. Doing so allows for any Smash or tilt, as well as all variations of grabs (so you can pivot grab, Dash attack cancel grab, stutter step fsmash, etc). The angle at which you ledgeshoot judges how far you will slide on the level.
Specials are all also available during either variation of the ledgeshoot.
There's very little difference between DownB and SideB ledgeshots. The only difference is that downB can be done slightly faster. Most stages don't require speedy ledgeshoots unless you want to ledgeshoot high.
At the very least, learning how to ledgeshoot with DownB alone is more difficult, but it's the most flexible. SideB is much, MUCH easier, but it sacrifices the ability to quickly ledgeshoot high (you can still ledgeshoot high, just not as fast as with downB).
DownB also has more risks involved since it's slightly more technical.
I'd say learn both. DownB is more flexible, but SideB has much, much more room for error.
=====
My experience with ledgeshooting on the levels:
I used the MLG Stages for experimenting, and even so, most levels are consistent so long as they share the same type of grounding as other levels. Keep that in mind.
This is only going to cover sliding, grounded ledgeshots, since air ledgeshots are pretty much universal to the levels. This will also only cover ledgeshooting from the point where you are grabbing the edge, since ledgeshooting is much, MUCH easier to execute at any other point off of any given level (probably be better to call that variant the spinshot, because that's all it is: a spinshot off of the level).
Again, to clarify:
Spinshot: Everyone knows what this is.
Ledgeshot: A spinshot done after falling off the ledge of a level.
=====
Other things to mention:
On Yoshi's Island and Pictochat, mistiming the downB by fastfalling into a spinshot from the ledge results in a regrab of the ledge if you spinshot fast enough. Same applies to other levels with large vertical walls (possibly Green Greens too).
You can regulate the distance of your ledgeshot in two distinct ways:
1: Timing the ledgeshot: By spinshotting during a certain time after the ledge drop, you alter the distance at which you travel.
2: Controlling your ledgeshot prior to landing on the level: During the spinshot, and before you land on the level for the sliding portion, if you hold back, you slow down the speed at which you spinshot travels (though you can't SEE this because you are typically hugging the wall. This can be seen very well on Smashville or Battlefield). This alters the sliding distance your character can travel.
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Anyways, I might make a video or provide pictures sometime down the line, but until then, that's what I experienced while messing around with spinshots and ledgeshots.
Still need to test Green Greens too.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=209326&highlight=ledgeshot
God... I was (and still am) so far ahead of my time.
God... I was (and still am) so far ahead of my time.
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everyone was wrong in 2008
Trent
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Screw the TYD, Gems collection was worth the 8 bucks.
So I was lurking the Pika social thread, and their first post has like, player profiles and such. I thought that'd be cool to do for the Sawniks maybe.
So I was lurking the Pika social thread, and their first post has like, player profiles and such. I thought that'd be cool to do for the Sawniks maybe.