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I'll murder you.so what's with this green sonic everyone seems to fanboy over?
seems kinda dumb.
like, sega, stop painting sonic different colours and thinking it's cool
He will ****ing murder you...
THIS. INFZY *****. TOO GOOD. <3so what's with this green sonic everyone seems to fanboy over?
seems kinda dumb.
like, sega, stop painting sonic different colours and thinking it's cool
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang, neko. Calm down...o_O;
I guess that its always one thing or another...And guys, leave Kupo alone. He makes textures and knows how to **** with sawnik. *I got your back kupo.*
You main that troll Juri, we all know that Viper's da best....besides Juri is creepy...Jk
I got SSF4...All i can say is that im staying true to my "One Main, only using that char" oath...and i love her. literally. i love her.
Sonic still da bes though.
umm....okaaay...she's still mine. she likes me. i played her first. you're all too slow.
I am calm. I'm just messing with Shado. <3
i know...but it gets discouraging at times when you cant think of things or something like that. Plus, when you have people counting on you and you fail, its just the worst feeling in the world.
keep it up KID. Show em who da bes.
XD, did you read my post? i editted it for great justice.
you made me realize that im not...really that good as people think. I just have patterns and thats why you read me so well...you havent even been in the community for...6-7 months and, dont get me wrong, you maintain that shado skill, but the way you read me...argh sgbmnirtosetnisetojsthserpgoepsr. It wasnt 2-2, it was like....3-1 me. you cant count those cause we got called off the tv.
what speed are you talking about? :/
you fold too. @_@
Mommy. ;_;I'm dead.
With as luck-based as Brawl seems to be, we might as well be.
i lol'd at :50
@0:33(thatlittleDownBwar): I wonder if you could've SDJ over his head and Bair'd him.
It depends.
you did use sonic...right?
Not sure if this is exactly what you asked for, but here:
Well, here's the initial chart I made for the characters nair and spring locks.
Remember, this chart displays the maximum percentage the character can be at while taking a fresh spring drop or sour spot nair in order to become locked on the ground. The colors are as follows:
1. Light Purple = MAY be nair locked from a sideB
This means that it is possible to nair lock these characters from a sideB footstool, but it's incredibly situational, mostly relying on the terrain of the map, and whether or not the opponent immediately reacts from the footstool. If they move the instant they hit the ground, the nair setup WILL NOT work.
2. Red = Setups into jab lock will almost never work
This means that the spring AND nair lock setups will fail. It only applies to Luigi, and only because he slides WAY too far to start off a jab lock before he goes out of range. If he stays on the level, however, you CAN run up and grab him or hit him during the forced-get up from the spring or nair lock. Luigi can be considered a Light Purple category when it comes to the nair lock.
3. Green = SideB > footstool > nair jab lock setup works
On these characters, sideB directly into a footstool, followed by a fast fall nair, will work at least 80% of the time, the only exception being Bowser, who's probably the most difficult character to set this up in, despite his size. Samus and Lucario both surprisingly share a weaker, but similar effect to why it's so god**** easy to lock ROB. They tilt back when footstooled, especially Samus, so you're actually closer to the ground when you footstool them, allowing you to nair into the jab lock. Lucario is probably the second most difficult only because he isn't fat, so the nair is hard to land. Olimar, of course, would be third since you HAVE to aim for the helmet. Mr. Game and Watch and Jigglypuff are in the same boat as Olimar in that they're so small that they fall longer to hit the ground, but not long enough to break out of the tumbling animation. Game and Watch's animation when hitting the ground is so long and creates such a good sized hitbox that landing a nair is no problem, while Jigglypuff is so wide that even with her DIing in any direction after the footstool, the nair should hit.
So the order of difficulty in initiating sideb > footstool > nair > jab lock would be the following (from easiest to hardest):
-ROB
-Samus
-Jigglypuff
-Mr. Game and Watch
-Olimar/Lucario
-Bowser
4. Blue = sideB > footstool > nair lock won't work
Simple as it's said. Squirtle and Ice Climbers suffer from the Luigi Effect, where they just slide wa~y too far for the nair lock to be reasonably possible. It may be doable vs. Squirtle, but if so, I suppose the difficulty must be insane. However, because they don't slide TOO far, spring into jab locks still work, but are slightly difficult to pull off.
***One thing I forgot to mention. All characters CAN be nair locked of course, but the ones not colored can ONLY be nair locked if they are hit with the sour spot after they hit the floor from a tumbling animation. One of the best ways I can think of to get those uncolored characters into those animations would be to hit them off a platform while they shield, then follow with the nair.
Then again, jab works much more reliably. Whatever floats your boats.***
Uncharge DownB>SideB? I doubt someone is gonna allow Sonic have that much time to do that lol :o
Like this at start of match (where he drops the spring which could set up a jab lock) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQaX_wg72a4
