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I do agree that the Marth ditto is silly, due as well to one setup actually being another setup opportunity for your opponent xD But I do the dittos just for the learning experience (and hopefully show my opponents some stuff too in the process too).
Sounds about right when you put it that way xD
Lol yup that's exactly how it goes. And when I fight Lucina they are ALWAYS spamming Fsmash.
Well I don't know about other Lucina's but I spam d-tilt to no end.
Sorry I meant for glory Lucinas
That's why you learn spacing so all your opponents attacks whiff and yours hit(;
Was it lucky, or was it a hard read?
Definitely luck since it always happens against a player who just YOLO f smashes or sheildbreaker all the time and they happen to hit it at the moment they did not deserve to hit it and end up winning.
No matter how hard I try I can't space well mid match on 3DS, on Wii U I am fine though, but I don't have a Wii U.
Oh snap screw the 3ds version I wouldn't wanna do any mu on that xD, nonetheless marth dittos you crazy!?!
That's kinda situational really xD It is safer, yes, but sometimes the payoff of SH FAir/BAir is better. I tilt with using the latter really, and occassionally using the FH stuff if I want to play it safe.
But that's assuming they block both attacks with the shield and not exploit the weakpoint of landing SB's startup and ending animations. You also gotta tipper if you really want that shield broken from just two moves, otherwise your opponent will likely be able to block both and punish you hard for it (This strategy works better for Lucina xD)
I used this so much. It's one me so many matches. Even though people are consciously aware that Marth can break shields, people just shield instinctively and they get punished so hard from this. SB doesn't even need full charge to break full shields. Like @
EternalFlame
said, this works better with Lucina due to sweetspot, or more correctly lack of. It's usable with Marth, but if you sourspot it your opponents will punish you.
I find the ability to use an attack after a Full Hop Fair to be more rewarding than the SH one. Or not using a second attack and instead, landing behind the opponent or using the second jump.
The good thing is that in the Wii U version, you can add the FG player and/or send them a miiverse message.
So only play the good ones like marss and dabuz. They aren't snobs and will play you if you ask.
lmao who's his main?
the risk reward is so in his favor it doesn't even matter ;/
That is true, but you can use the whole FAir assault tactic to make up for that (usage of DB or SB after SH FAir), and that places them in a setup situation once more. Though this is coming from a more unorthodox Marth player, so you can take it with a grain of salt xD With SH FAir specifically, there is enough time to double jump and do another FAir before touching the ground, or just land and grab. There's a few options with the SH method, so I'm willing to defend it has its strong points. Whether FH or SH is all dependent on the person's playstyle and how they make it work for them.
and mu as well. I'd argue marth does not wanna rising FH fair since diddy can dash and sh/fh fair you before you can do anything.
For sure. SH Fair is still great, especially against shorter opponents and/or faster opponents where you'll want to land on the ground faster than using a FH.
Pretty sure Diddy can punished a whiffed FH fair. If it hits his shield idk but whiffed for sure.
It is when you punish someone out of a whiffed option while they are in ending lag, or at least that is what I think it is.
Basically it's not a combo but they can't avoid getting hit or grabbed for some reason or another. It's a pretty general term.
