Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[DrewB008]

you just do it as fast as you can, be careful with the c stick and you shouldnt bair

pchu, try playing a couple matches where you try really hard to not do any moves that dont connect, you do moves the whole time even when they have no chance of landing and that leaves you vulnerable and stops you from being able to punish things your opponent does. youre better off just standing and watching him or just dashdancing if youre not close enough to hit each other. just look at all the edgeguards you missed because you shffled aerials instead of just getting in position

 

[KAOSTAR]

yea thats why ppl just kinda jump in place for edgeguards. and its kinda intimidating lol.

 

[metashinryu]

got 2 questions here(yeah i know... TOO MUCH XD)

first,when im edgeguarding on FD i almost always hog onto edges and ledgehop to bair and grab the edge again,but sometimes i just walljump from the very edge and knee,if someone knows how to make this in command tell me,i would really apreciate it.

second,im playing some campy samus b¡tch and she just spams missiles from the other corner,this is a small problem but nothing compared to his **** crouch cancel game, every time i try to approach she just dodges in place dsmash,crouch cancel dsmash,i try every stupid thing that comes to my mind to get her out of ground and when i finally got it she just nair the crap outta me , i really need sme tips about approaching,thanx.

 

[TheManaLord]

smash away from stage and hit the jump button at the same time for instant ledge walljump

just grab if he cc's a lot

 

[KAOSTAR]

From the ledge you can hit back very subtly just to get off but not enough to DI away and then you smash away for the wall jump[be quick]. You would have done a bair but the wall jump turned you around and now you do a fair.

Samus has low priority missiles. nair thru them and run up on samus and that should force her to stepdodge if thats what she has been doin and then grab or uair into a knee if u can. When you get close ur getting punished for being too direct. Dash dance not just for the hell of it, but maybe run in and then out[to dodge any attacks] and back in for a grab.

To combo samus well you need to uair alot at low percents and into knee.

 

[DrewB008]

im in this phase right now where watty is the best samus in the world so i currently lose to samus

but if hes spot dodging do a short hop slowfalled knee or stomp

 

[Mogwai]

watty's so good. it really blew my mind how good he was at RoM cause it really reminded me of a faster version of HugS's Samus.

 

[Scar]

lol last time hugs's name came up in this thread he yelled at me for no reason

good times can't wait for genesis

 

[Cia]

you gotta see my combo on the first stock. it's amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVX6cPoRIVs

 

[DtJ Jungle]

LOL that was ridiculous

 

[Scar]

how fast do you need to DI into the wall after csticking away from the ledge for scar jumping. i seem to bair and kill myself alot

just do it immediately. the easiest way to get the hang of it is to DI into the wall and fall pretty far down, then walljump and double jump back on the stage. tighten up the timing until it's as fast as it can be, then you can do whatever you want on YS.

 

[Big_R]

watty is...? i just beat that guy for like the 3rd oturny in a row

hahaha im the samus slayer i guess yayuhzzzzz

 

[Mogwai]

lol, I guess I'm just talking about his movement. I think there's probably a lot more subtlety to HugS's game cause he was like top 8ing all that MLG **** with such a terrible character, but Watty just reminded me of him with all the tight movement in and out of shield into spaced tilts vs. my approach.

 

[DrewB008]

hugs isnt as good as watty now, hes been playing brawl and not doing that well lately

bigr is in fact the samus slayer

plus watty is offensive with samus, how cool is that

 

[soap]

watty lives with drephen, so he gets a lot of practice getting his *** ***** every day

 

[KAOSTAR]

who is watty? Ive never heard of him. Ive only heard of the normal samus players

 

[DtJ Jungle]

>_>
<_<
._.

Watty just wrecked **** at RoM

 

[KAOSTAR]

is that the general consensus that he is better than hugs?

 

[Santana]

Question:

What throws and percentages can I land an inescapable knee follow-up, out of the grab on Marth and Sheik?

I have trouble killing both out of grabs.

 

[Cia]

is that the general consensus that he is better than hugs?

NO..

i haven't played watty since VLS and i believe he is good. but i don't think he's near HugS level yet. and he place 17th at RoM

oh, and the best Samus is Treble. I'm 100% sure of that.

 

[KAOSTAR]

NO..

i haven't played watty since VLS and i believe he is good. but i don't think he's near HugS level yet. and he place 17th at RoM

oh, and the best Samus is Treble. I'm 100% sure of that.

Dam that bigass green writing is kinda intimidating lol.

But yea thats coo. Treble huh. Never heard of him either. I really gotta get to know the samus players lol

 

[Cia]

Oh man.. where do i begin. Treble is this legendary player that no one knows about (except some of tri-state)

he's SOOOOO **** smart, he makes the general smash populace look ********. most of his videos are on Eggm's youtube (www.youtube.com/theeggm) hopefully he has some recent ones, but even his old ones are ****.

Sry Scar,

uhh.. Falcon is a broken character and i'm trying learn him. Any advice for someone who has really poor tech skill but can tech chase like a monster?

/ontopic

 

[DtJ Jungle]

is that the general consensus that he is better than hugs?

In his prime no. Now, yes.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Haha tight. Im gonna hit up that youtube then and see whats up

 

[alcoady]

****er every single ohio smasher is like..the coolest ****in person i've seen since the last ohio smasher i saw

Lemme Get a WOOP WOOP OHIO!!!

 

[DrewB008]

woop woop

treble is quite good, i havent seen him play in a year and a half though

and yeah watty isnt getting like top 8 at national tourneys like hugs used to, but hes doing at least as well as hugs lately

and watty is considerably better now than he was at vls (a year and a half ago). 17th at rom may not be flattering in and of itself, but his only losses were to pc and jman, and his set with pc came down to last stock on green greens third match. had a few little things gone differently there people would not be doubting

 

[HugS™]

I placed 7th of 128 at Mango Juice with zero warm up/practice for 3 months.

No one will ever be better than me with Samus until they do what I did. Even Watty knows this.

He knows that if he does have the title, it is by default in my absence. So when you mention best samus, you say "In HugS's absence" as a precursor.

But even in my absence, my high placing at mango juice kind of ****s it up and makes it arguable now...

Sorry Watty . I still want to keep the title.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Get ***** lol its HugS. Well then I guess that answers my question.

 

[DrewB008]

vanz tech chase with forward b, you dont have to position yourself correctly or space or anything (aka need tech skill) as long as you know where theyre going, its great

hugs yeah we know, but you should know better than to play the zero warm up/practice for 3 months card, unless youre hyping it up because you plan on warming up/practicing and getting better

 

[HugS™]

I'm playing the card because I'm stating that I do better than all samus players without being anywhere near ready. It implies that I can do better with practice (obviously) and that I'm still ahead of the curve without it.

It is very necessary to mention that, otherwise people will assume that I was as ready as ever when I entered the tournament. Which would then cause people to assume that my "prime" is outdated and wouldn't survive now a days. This would not be the case.

That's why I mention it.

 

[KAOSTAR]

aite then. HugS is tight. So are u planning on gettin better, playing more, frequenting tourneys?

like arent you coming to WA's tourney play?

 

[DrewB008]

i dunno, ive just always been of the mindset that it doesnt matter why anybody is at a certain level, only that they are at that level

obviously you would be in top form if you were practicing, but you arent. thats all im saying.

 

[soap]

these best character titles r so dumb, especially when azen + mango would just **** everybody with their own characters anyway.

 

[HugS™]

these best character titles r so dumb, especially when azen + mango would just **** everybody with their own characters anyway.

Not with Samus.

@ Kaostar, I plan on going to tourney play but I'm not sure if I'm entering both events.

 

[skyheart]

In my opinion it just sounds like Hugs is johning.....just saying

 

[TheManaLord]

modern day watty took PC Chris to game 3

could modern day hugs take PC Chris to game 3?

 

[Mogwai]

probably. modern day PC is not really the same as old PC and old HugS was capable of taking Bo5s off of old PC. And it's also speculation and therefore pretty meaningless.

yea, and I dunno if PC even plays anymore. he never wants to play anymore and I don't think he's been to a tourney since RoM, so yea...

 

[KirbyKaze]

Didn't Hugs often best PC in tournament sets when they were both in their prime?

He took PC's Sheik / Peach to game 3 at 0c3 and the set overall was ridiculously close. He beat him at Evo Worlds too. And to my knowledge he's beaten PC's Fox and Falco more than vice versa (I could be wrong on this).

Hugs's prime > any other Samus by a vast, vast margin IMHO.

 

[TheManaLord]

i thought pc loved melee again, he did a massive article on it because he went to a no johns randomly and got back into it. but he's more busy and not able to play or go to stuff. pc still got 4th at RoM, don't discredit him with him being rusty and sht, he took dsw to g3 pc is so good still

 

[Mogwai]

I know, I live like 20 minutes from PC. When he was getting back into it, we would play like, once a week, but since after RoM we haven't played at all and I don't think he's been to anything. *shrugs* I guess it was just a midlife crisis, reliving his old Melee glory days

And I know he's still beast as hell, but just like HugS is still mad beast, but not quite what he used to be, so is PC. Watty taking a game off him now isn't even close to the same thing as if it happened at OC3 or something.