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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

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I always ban FoD. Because no matter how much marth ***** on YS. FoD is still 100 times worse.

Usually, the platforms are a valuable tool for Falcon, you can tech chase easier on platforms, you can avoid lasers with them, they help your recovery, Platforms are awesome.

But on FoD, Platforms are an obstacle.

Also, lately I've been having some trouble against Peach so I started thinking about the matchup. I'll post some of my thoughts and I'd like to hear what you guys think about them.

Just nair. What exactly can Peach do against nair? If she shields or crouch cancels it there's really nothing she can do to punish you if you space it correctly and don't **** up the l-cancel and dash away immediately.

If she's on the ground, she can't do ****. If she's in the air, just dash dance nair or better yet wait for her to get on the ground.

If you get knocked off the stage and manage to grab the ledge, just jump. I don't think there's anything peach can do to get to you fast enough to punish jump off the ledge unless she jumped so early you could choose to roll instead, stood on the platform (in which case a billion mixups can slip by), or threw a turnip.

If she throws a turnip at you while jumping off the ledge, just catch the turnip with Z.
 

GamerGuitarist7

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when the platforms are at their lowest (without being gone of course) you can raptor boost under it and it'll hit anyone on the platform

good for covering most (if not all) tech options when you throw people on there
 

KirbyKaze

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I find battlefield really good to connect her combos. I mean, I suppose its my preference since I prefer to play aggressive on that stage *shrugs*.

I mean, I don't think its detrimental to her game, but I think the other neutrals help her game out more.
Her combos are good on Battlefield too.
 

onlymaskde

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I always ban FoD. Because no matter how much marth ***** on YS. FoD is still 100 times worse.
I always ban Yoshi's against Marths. I don't think FoD is outrageously bad... well, at least not as bad as dying near 0% from a tipper on Yoshi's.

Solution to FoD: be G-reg
 

P.C. Jona

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banning yoshis story?

do you know how to wall jump?

yoshis is easily falcons best stage

just because of the wall jumping ridiculousness he can pull off.
 

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Speaking of walljumps, what the **** is wrong with green greens? I'm hanging on the left ledge and sometimes it makes me walljump and sometimes it doesn't.
 
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on FoD, you can pull off some combos that are impossible on almost ever other stage

you can do tricksies with edge cancels and stuff

most noobs or average people that counter pick it end up counterpicking themselves and getting owned

but when you fight actual decent people its difficult
 

P.C. Jona

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fod is ******** dont auto ban it tho

if your facing jiggs or peach fod is the least of your problems
 

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Well I've been auto banning it up until now. Luckily I still play it in friendlies so I'm not completely hopeless on that stage. I'll try not banning it in some matches and see how it goes.
 

Dynamism?

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I just found out about NES n00b
:(

The first person in the competitive smash community I ever played a match with outside of the Okanagan. He was the first person I ever played Brawl against, online in tournament. He'll always have a place in my heart
 

ihavespaceblondes

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Speaking of walljumps, what the **** is wrong with green greens? I'm hanging on the left ledge and sometimes it makes me walljump and sometimes it doesn't.
If you press away on certain ledges (Green Greens, Hyrule, MKII, etc.) that go straight down with no lip, you'll walljump.
 

Scar

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ban yoshi's vs marth jona

be g-reg on fountain (good pull masked)

sheik mains GTFO of my thread your combos are GARBAGE
 

Scar

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jona wtf are you gonna do about marth's new YS enhanced dtilt

if taj vs SS consisted solely of taj grabbing, fsmashing, and dtilting at the ledge on YS he would have won instead of not won

IT'S THREE MOVES, TAJ

tec0 i am gonna ****n' RAAAAAPE you next time we play

which will be next tournament since i play you in every tournament EVER AHHHHHHHHHHH
 

P.C. Jona

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why

thats the stage im most comfortable with

if i had to counter pick anyone

it would be to yoshis

thats my stage

scar

im gonna grab and get off what else nukka

or nair and get off

oh you meant recovering

screw it i would kill myself and come back to ****

idk i love that stage
 

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If you press away on certain ledges (Green Greens, Hyrule, MKII, etc.) that go straight down with no lip, you'll walljump.
Yes I know that, that's not whats strange. What's strange is that the left most ledge on green greens is inconsistent. Sometimes it walljumps you, sometimes it doesn't.

Actually upon further inspection it seems that during invincibility frames upon ledge-grab it walljumps you and when it ends it does not. I'm playing as blue CF in case that matters.
 

Scar

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why

thats the stage im most comfortable with

if i had to counter pick anyone

it would be to yoshis

thats my stage

scar

im gonna grab and get off what else nukka

or nair and get off

oh you meant recovering

screw it i would kill myself and come back to ****

idk i love that stage
i love it too except vs marth sheik fox

ill falcon ditto anyone on yoshi's
 

Scar

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yo you're gay i def did play SS at genesis and im pissed it didnt get recorded

scrub i never play red
 

Roneblaster

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o n0ez you meant that wasnt actually SS vs darkrain/scar/isai?

**** you jona!

also i agree with scar, Sheik mains GTFO plz.

edit

SS and Isai did face each other and it is on youtube, so your late on that.
 

Roneblaster

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I bet youll leave if I falcon punch you out of this thread.

I swear Ill stop bringing that up some day.

jona come to pound 4 plz.
 

Scar

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youre gay jona you should have played scar colors not SS

****in EC pride

im gonna **** you next time i see you

with fox/marth

disrespect
 

Roneblaster

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i had my laptop right there on that TV, i have no idea why i didnt record our set.

so you dont play fox anymore, its sheik now eh?
 

P.C. Jona

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youre gay jona you should have played scar colors not SS

****in EC pride

im gonna **** you next time i see you

with fox/marth

disrespect
WEST COAST ALL DAY NUKKA

you know your my fav scar

and i would **** your non falcon chars

like i did to hbox's non jiggs chars lmao

and i wish i could go to pound 4, but i cant
 
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