Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[thumbswayup]

the gayest thing in this whole game is ledge teching an Fsmash from marth into a falcon dive, exploding all over marths face just to have marth Fsmash u agin because the hits stun isnt long enough

The best part is when the Marth is at 0% when you up b him he gets a free auto tipper afterwards.

 

[_Rocky_]

i suck at teams, would enjoy any advice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKiLYLAHRYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScwKD4JvwlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9xpzh-cL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJup1J-AZKQ

i find myself doubting a lot and dd camping while my teammate gets *****

 

[JPOBS]

in reference to the dropzone of randall ,doing it on air and doing it on a char would be different cuz of the hitlag on the knee

 

[P.C. Jona]

yea but when you hit someone its easier

because i can survive dropzone on yoshis more often when

im actually doing it to someone and not the air

soooo ya

 

[RaynEX]

sigh

hax took my money in a close mm at rom2. How am I supposed to beat DDing? Falcon is cool and all but the dudes that take it to the next level by almost always killing you off a grab...lol

 

[DtJ Jungle]

If it's easier for Jona it's easier for everbody!!!!

 

[P.C. Jona]

you should get smacked

the reason its easier

i think, is because if you hit someone

you can tell when the move is gonna end

which allows you to jump out quicker

instead of spamming jump buttons which probably doesnt work

idk

shut up son

@ raynex

hax is nuts at tech chasing

laser him once then platform camp or something lol

 

[Lovage]

just do what i did


****

lol jk

 

[Afro_Chris]

yea but when you hit someone its easier

because i can survive dropzone on yoshis more often when

im actually doing it to someone and not the air

soooo ya

if ur good enough it shouldnt matter, u should beable to run off and knee and live with or without anyone there

 

[P.C. Jona]

if ur good enough it shouldnt matter, u should beable to run off and knee and live with or without anyone there

we cant all be silent spectre

buddy

 

[iamthemicrowave]

like matt r said, after you dropzone you should use the stick to jump because it buffers jump...i found after doing this i can dropzone stomp or dropzone upair, dj upair, and still recover above the ledge

 

[TresChikon]

How many frames does it buffer for?

 

[JPeGImage]

Is it me? or should the previous samus CP stage pick ? be an obvious kongo64? It might be due to the fact that the people who replied were more comfotable with the neutrals, or they used the neutrals in their answers because theyre biased agianst regular CPs. . . but kongo seems almost unfair (key word, almost) when playing falcon vs samus. I mean, you have an inability for samus to grapple sweetspot the edge = free hit when your timing is correct, and when youre on the ledge, you have an extra option to recover in the form of jumping straight onto the top platform. Recovering and ledge guarding is something samus is dependent on, as well, in that matchup, and we take them both away with that stage; and what do we give up? allowing the samus time to bomb-stall and reach the barrel, which a lot of the time we can hit them out of a good portion of the time. A bit of a rant, I know. Let me know if im anywhere close.

 

[chaindude]

^ thats a great idea with all the right points gimping samus is a ***** somtimes anyways

 

[BigD!!!]

the problem with dk64 is that its ****ing giant and with bombs/barrel/upBing wherever she wants through the stage/platforms to land on maybe/etc. she'll still recover pretty well and live a really long time

 

[COHEED AND CAMBRIA]

BigD I hope you can make it too this one will you be back in Ohio By then?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=256529

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

like matt r said, after you dropzone you should use the stick to jump because it buffers jump...i found after doing this i can dropzone stomp or dropzone upair, dj upair, and still recover above the ledge

what situations can you buffer in? you can buffer if you get knocked down with any button, you can buffer out of shield with the c-stick, i wasn't aware there was was anything else. are you saying you can buffer any aerial into a jump using the normal stick? and how much before the actual jump can you buffer it? like, if you hold up immediately during the knee, it won't jump, but you can do it slightly before the knee ends and get the jump right?

 

[Tomacawk]

it's not a REAL buffer, it just has multiple jump inputs so it's idiot proof, unlike x/y

 

[Xelyst]

sigh

hax took my money in a close mm at rom2. How am I supposed to beat DDing? Falcon is cool and all but the dudes that take it to the next level by almost always killing you off a grab...lol

yah but that always happens with captain falcon.. fox being combo'd from falcon grabs has been happening 4eva..

 

[BigD!!!]

yeah coheed i should be there

dont count on vidjo and m2k actually helping you run anything, myself+cok are actually reliable and willing to help run pretty much every tournament we go to though

 

[ChivalRuse]

sigh

hax took my money in a close mm at rom2. How am I supposed to beat DDing? Falcon is cool and all but the dudes that take it to the next level by almost always killing you off a grab...lol

Hax is dangerous in mms. Like, unless you play Sheik, it's probably not going to go well.

 

[legion598]

ok so I have some bull **** I need worked out. I fight 2 different marths one of them I do pretty well against because I can Uthrow knee him around 80 even when he DIs away, but the other marth is able to DI away and still Fair me before the knee hits and when I asked him why he said something about wiggle DI. So does that mean that a bunch of combos dont work? and if so how do I deal with something that gay? The other stupid thing is im fighting falco and fox and on several occasions I throw out a knee in a tech chase and shine eats right through it, its a ****ing knee! am I timing it wrong? anyway a positive thing I have a question about is falcons knee>jab shield pressure, so far I havent gotten punished for it and it lands me lots of knees. I was wondering if there was a way to punish it OOS

 

[-WoMp-]

You need to try another move if he is catching your knee with a fair. Or wait for the fair and then knee. Be thinking about it. Don't just mindlessly uthrow knee every time if it isn't working. I'm not positive but if the fox and falco are able to shine with you tech chasing, you are not being quick enough. And also the strength of a move has little to do with priority mang.

 

[P.C. Jona]

so i was at my cousins house and played brawl falcon

i did the knee 2 times and i felt pro, but i lost

then i switched to mk and didnt lose a game

screw that game

 

[Leviathan741]

i hear you jona

 

[Scar]

i hate work

 

[Stratford]

it's not a REAL buffer, it just has multiple jump inputs so it's idiot proof, unlike x/y

What exactly are the details behind this? Something like when you're holding up, it inputs up every so many frames?

 

[Teczer0]

I believe that it inputs the button for as long as you hold it.

So if you hold L/R and hold the c-stick to the left it'll continually try to roll for you as long as you hold it. If you let the c-stick go before the roll can actually happen then it won't roll for you, hence why its not a true buffer.

Its as good as a buffer but its not technically a buffer. Of course Magus can freely prove me wrong if he so chooses to do so.

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

he's not asking about the c-stick, he's asking about a fake buffer with the left stick.

when you hit up it triggers as jump at a certain point, but only if the stick is moving fast enough when it crosses that point. So every frame it looks at the postion of the stick and how far it has moved since the last check, and if the distance is far enough it inputs jump. Which means if you move the stick up at the right speed, it's like hitting x or y a few times, which is why it's easier to time the jump, because it's basically frame perfect mashing a few times.

 

[Scar]

bigD were you just playing left 4 dead 2 online?

 

[Afro_Chris]

lol speaking of left 4 dead 2 does anyone got a crack to play online with it?/ is there even one?

 

[Leviathan741]

Scar, did you c my new vids in my thread? Any critique? their different from the ones before.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

In case nothing else has been said to the matter, may NES N00B rest in peace.

 

[-Chad-]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=256913

 

[Zephyr]

This is messed.

 

[AxelSlam]

I'm gonna play normal/pink color falcon in his memory.
Falcon mains forever<3

 

[chiZZLeSD]

rest in peace, NES N00B

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

wow, I can't believe that really happened.

RIP nes n00b, you were an up and coming amazing falcon player and your memory will live on in smash.

 

[KAOSTAR]

haha jona I just saw your middle hop video.

As if falcon runs away while fending off massive hoards lol

 

[Tomacawk]

i'm still crying over ryan's death...this is so ****ed up
I will also be playing normal falcon from now on