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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

Lovage

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lol the lovezone *****
try it on ur friends


could this be a tech trap on spacies?

stomp at 40-60%
reverse bair right before they hit the ground (they attempt to tech the stomp)
knee the missed tech in front of you (cannot tech within 20 frames of pressing L/R)

not sure if it works, but it could be similar to the ganon dthrow->jab->fair tech trap
 

pockyD

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i think the tech penalty is 40 frames, not 20

and it'd really that you can't tech between frames 21-60 after pressing L/R or something like that if you want to get technical
 

Afro_Chris

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hey which one of these is faster frame wise / or better in general


running towards edge > wavedash > pivot > wavedash > take edge

running towards edge >wavedash > pivot > moonwalk > take edge
 

Strong Badam

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if you wavedash first, moonwalk is betta. usually you can just dash -> moonwalk since falcon's dash animation gets him so far. but ya.
 

TresChikon

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After a d-throw, dash towards the ledge.

Instead of running off, pivot so you fall off with your back facing away from the stage. Then hit them withe the weak part of the u-air.

Lovezone.
 

Strong Badam

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i lovedropped TIM's mom last night
it's funny cuz his name's abbreviation is a person's name
 

BigD!!!

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afro chris

im pretty sure the wavedash one is faster frame wise, but i think the best is to just moonwalk toward the edge in the first place and jump all the way to it backwards

for years now thats basically been the only situation i use moonwalking in
 

ChivalRuse

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lol the lovezone *****
try it on ur friends


could this be a tech trap on spacies?

stomp at 40-60%
reverse bair right before they hit the ground (they attempt to tech the stomp)
knee the missed tech in front of you (cannot tech within 20 frames of pressing L/R)

not sure if it works, but it could be similar to the ganon dthrow->jab->fair tech trap
LOL. If that works I'm going to have to start -intentionally- not attempting to tech stomps.

*ahem*

Then, when I tech roll your follow up knee in, what do you do? Mwahaha.

Oh, wait. Just JC grab me out of the tech roll animation.

Dang.
 

BigD!!!

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oh i forgot to talk about that

yeah that would probably work, but i imagine it would be easier to just do an uair instead of a reverse bair. really though thats some scar ****, i'd just knee them

the old trick tapion taught me in falcon dittos like 4 years ago was at around 50% uthrow ftilt then knee the mised tech, works the same way
 

ChivalRuse

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I think that also works because the Fox tries to tech the uthrow and misses it due to the ftilt. Then he can't tech the ftilt because of the 2/3 of a second teching rule. :)
 

Afro_Chris

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afro chris

im pretty sure the wavedash one is faster frame wise, but i think the best is to just moonwalk toward the edge in the first place and jump all the way to it backwards

for years now thats basically been the only situation i use moonwalking in
ight i was just making sure cuz most of the time i would just do that, i was just wondering if wavedashing would be more effective

edit: did u guys no if u full hop uair, bair, and knee if ur really really fast, u can wave land on platforms, it looks cool cuz u'd week bair them wave land backwards and reverse knee them if they cc it or bair them or uair, or w.e u wana do instead of knee works on PS, YS, DL, BF i think only uair works on DL tho
 

Juggleguy

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SS combo -> uthrow - dtilt - stomp missed tech - knee

The tech penalty is the reason like 90% of these combos end up working.

I like Scar's version of it, too; down angled ftilt to replace the dtilt.
 

The Last Dragon

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Could someone go through the an advanced training regime of a cf? Basically getting better alone, what things can I do to add more fluidity to my game?
 

Tomacawk

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practicepracticepracticepracticepractice
if you must play on computers, I prefer level 4's because they kinda DI but don't do ******** things (offensively speaking) and generally let you get free hits for the most part
but all you can do is practice your speed...work on dashing ASAP out of l cancels, shffl uair combos, etc etc...marf is good for that
 

Fortress | Sveet

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work on movement.

fox trot / dash dance
wavelands
landing aerials and dashing immediately
moonwalking if you get the rest down
 

The Official

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Okay so I'm back sooner then I thought, but I saw this video and I just had to ask. How do you gentlemen into another gentlemen? , like in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzr8rSb-aQ @ :35

I know how to gentlemen into a dash, so I assume it's the same thing, except going into another gentlemen. The problem I see is, that I hold A to cancel the gentlemen, but I need to press A to gentlemen again so I'm a bit confused.
 

tubes

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Okay so I'm back sooner then I thought, but I saw this video and I just had to ask. How do you gentlemen into another gentlemen? , like in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzr8rSb-aQ @ :35

I know how to gentlemen into a dash, so I assume it's the same thing, except going into another gentlemen. The problem I see is, that I hold A to cancel the gentlemen, but I need to press A to gentlemen again so I'm a bit confused.
maybe crouch cancel it? Lol samus technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCB31g4FUvY
this is the only advanced gentleman technique you need
You know you have bad habits when...


Also: go to brinstar
break the left platform,
jump onto the left platform,
roll towards the right edge of the platform,
raptor boost.

This is why Brinstar is Falcon's best stage.
 

Scar

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i haven't been on the boards for like a week

kind of hate myself for it

i want to go to shell shocked though... UGHHH

wes call me tonight?
 
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