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*Click on linkEveryone has seen Brawl Taunts 1-3 Loool but have you lot seen this?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IhGtuYATBQc
C'mon, it was funny back in the day, so was Nin10doh!... Minus, that Pokeporn, still dunno what was up with that.Not to my knowledge, and I'm sure some would say that's for the best.
It's only a matter of time before we get "SSB4 (whatever it ends up being called) Taunts" though. Oh joy.
Nin10doh was alright (and its sequels too IIRC), Brawl Taunts 1 was... decent, but personally I didn't much care for any of the Brawl Taunts. I'm sure Rina-Chan will milk whatever she can out of future "Taunts" videos, whether Kirbopher is part of them or not (he didn't want to make more than the first). I really haven't been following either of them though, so even if they don't make a follow-up, someone will.C'mon, it was funny back in the day, so was Nin10doh!... Minus, that Pokeporn, still dunno what was up with that.
I'm sure they will. Who were the people who collaborated on that anyway, I know that duo, the girl and the dude, are somewhat known on newgrounds or something, they're not Egoraptor level big, but their fairly known.
Are you seriously expecting 11 new series to be added? 11? That's more than we got in 64.[COLLAPSE="Roster Stuff"]48 Characters
5 Replaced (Ike, PKMN Trainer, Lucario, Snake, a fifth character)
13 New Spots
5 Replaced = Same from Melee to Brawl
13 New Spots = Added Spots from Original to Melee
4 Third Parties
Replacements:
Ike - Chrom
Red - Gold/Ethan
Lucario - Zoroark
Snake - Simon Belmont
Some Fifth Character (Maybe Lucas)
Newer Spots:
-Micaiah
-Matthew
-Isa Jo
-Andy
-Ghirahim
-Bowser Jr
-Palutena
-Takamaru
-Sheriff
-Little Mac
-Shulk
-Ridley
-Mega-Man
-Travis Touchdown
And the Mii (just its own spot)
Something like that, kind of roughed out and quickly put together, but with a little work it would be good.
@Habanero: It is more time now to use those spots to rep series that are not yet repped. Like Xenoblade, Sin & Punishment, and Golden Sun.[/COLLAPSE]
I am not expecting all of them, although most could happen, but just tossing choices out there. People like Isa, Ghirahim, Shulk, Micaiah, Matthew, Takamaru, and Little Mac for sure though.Nin10doh was alright (and its sequels too IIRC), Brawl Taunts 1 was... decent, but personally I didn't much care for any of the Brawl Taunts. I'm sure Rina-Chan will milk whatever she can out of future "Taunts" videos, whether Kirbopher is part of them or not (he didn't want to make more than the first). I really haven't been following either of them though, so even if they don't make a follow-up, someone will.
The internet blows up when there's an impending Smash.
Are you seriously expecting 11 new series to be added? 11? That's more than we got in 64.
Also, if you don't even have a fifth character you've decided to cut, there's little point in making a cut for the sake of a "pattern".
Plus of course some of those character choices are... questionable, but I've already expressed my opinion on them before.
That means he is doing his jobGhirahim creeps me the **** out.
Don't care about Isa, Micaiah, or Matthew.
Thinking pretty highly of your list I see. :mistyface:
This is what I see as the current pool. Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Pichu are only in because they're Melee veterans and Starfy is only on the list IF he was planned for Brawl (if not, then I feel he's pretty much out). Everyone else I feel have legitimate chances, even if I have doubts towards some of the characters here and I feel those not on the list will not be in.
Barring a possible retro surprise that isn't Mach Rider, I feel as our newcomers will come exactly from this pool and I'd be surprised if I was wrong.
@DragonSniperNintendo
All eight of those characters have minuscule chances, I wouldn't say any are at the same level as the characters on SSBF's pool.
I'm reluctant to bring them up, but I would add both Waluigi and a spot for a Namco character (Pac-Man I guess, if it had to be a specific character). I don't think either are too likely, but they're probably on par with some of those choices.
Otherwise, I'd agree with that pool (unless I'm forgetting someone).
Andy, Micaiah, Mike Jones, and Simon Belmont will 95% not happen.Thinking pretty highly of your list I see. :mistyface:
Cool list, quite a bit of good choices, but missing possible choices like Isa, Matthew, Andy, Micaiah, Sheriff, Ray Mk3, Mike Jones, and Simon Belmont
The only possibility in the group is Ray MK III, but his chances are so slim that it's not worth including him in the pool. Maybe SSB5 if he gets a game sometimes this generation, but I think he missed his chance for SSB4. Which is too bad as he's my fifth most wanted character.Thinking pretty highly of your list I see. :mistyface:
Cool list, quite a bit of good choices, but missing possible choices like Isa, Matthew, Andy, Micaiah, Sheriff, Ray Mk3, Mike Jones, and Simon Belmont
Maybe, I can understand where you are coming from on most but ones like Isa and Matthew still have great chances compared to their dads, especially Isa.@DragonSniperNintendo
All eight of those characters have minuscule chances, I wouldn't say any are at the same level as the characters on SSBF's pool.
I'm reluctant to bring them up, but I would add both Waluigi and a spot for a Namco character (Pac-Man I guess, if it had to be a specific character). I don't think either are too likely, but they're probably on par with some of those choices.
Otherwise, I'd agree with that pool (unless I'm forgetting someone).
And that percentage of not happening is from where?Andy, Micaiah, Mike Jones, and Simon Belmont will 95% not happen.
Isa and Matthew will only happen if Sakurai decides to give their respective series the most current characters for them (though both characters are much less popular than their fathers). I think Ray is going to be passed on due to not having a game since 2006.
Sheriff is plausible as a final bizarre retro pick (like Mr. Game & Watch and ROB), though him possibly having to use a realistic gun to make him work is a huge flaw against him.
Replaced is a word that gets thrown around a lot incorrectly. It's not quite the same as cut. The only character that was actually "replaced" from Melee to Brawl was Young Link, with Toon Link. Other characters that are commonly thought as being replaced, like Mewtwo and Roy, were in reality just lower on the priority list and ended up not making it, they weren't "replaced" as the original intent was to have both Mewtwo/Lucario and Roy/Ike.Do you think chars will be replaced? if yes who you think?
Both are possibilities, but as with Ray, I think the chances of either showing up are so slim that I don't feel comfortable including either. Maybe if Waluigi gets an important role in Luigi's Mansion 2 will he have a more substantial chance, but for now, his lack of importance is what keeps him off the poolI'm reluctant to bring them up, but I would add both Waluigi and a spot for a Namco character (Pac-Man I guess, if it had to be a specific character). I don't think either are too likely, but they're probably on par with some of those choices.
Otherwise, I'd agree with that pool (unless I'm forgetting someone).
The only way Waluigi has a chance of getting in are:Both are possibilities, but as with Ray, I think the chances of either showing up are so slim that I don't feel comfortable including either. Maybe if Waluigi gets an important role in Luigi's Mansion 2 will he have a more substantial chance, but for now, his lack of importance is what keeps him off the pool
As for a Namco rep, I've gone over why I doubt one, no need to be a broken record.
Biases included I would personally swap Professor Layton with Lloyd Irving. Though I really hate to admit it but Pac-Man might also have a chance as well.
This is what I see as the current pool. Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Pichu are only in because they're Melee veterans and Starfy is only on the list IF he was planned for Brawl (if not, then I feel he's pretty much out). Everyone else I feel have legitimate chances, even if I have doubts towards some of the characters here and I feel those not on the list will not be in.
Barring a possible retro surprise that isn't Mach Rider, I feel as our newcomers will come exactly from this pool and I'd be surprised if I was wrong.
peoples blind fanboyism in Megaman is actually funny at times. he is far from a sure thing. I just love that peoples only argument against Pac-Man is "I find him boring."I still see people acting as though Mega Man is a sure bet while a Namco one like Pac-Man "is doubtful".
This thought really irks me as the logic is heavily flawed to the point that in reality either BOTH are doubtful, or both are likely depending on how it's looked at.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in saying Matthew and Isa have "minuscule chances", but honestly their chances aren't nearly as good as Isaac or Saki, and they themselves don't have the best chances. The latter two are much more well-known and popular, and in Isaac's case represent his series much better. Isa might've received a worldwide release, but technically Saki did as well, eventually, plus he has the distinction of appearing in Brawl to significantly raise his profile. Plus, S&P2 bombed pretty hard, while S&P seemingly did quite well on the VC. The only way I see Matthew/Isa getting in over their counterparts is if Camelot/Treasure requests it.Maybe, I can understand where you are coming from on most but ones like Isa and Matthew still have great chances compared to their dads, especially Isa.
I still can see Isaac, although as an adult, but I think Isa is a way better choice than Saki.
Micaiah, I have nothing more to say on, but you're vastly overrating her chances.Micaiah still stands some of a chance. Both Mike Jones and Sheriff could make great Retro choices, although less so than Takamaru I would say more than Sukapon, Duck Hunt Dog, Starman, and even Mach Rider to some extent.
While the franchises are notable, for various reasons they aren't at the same level as series that actually do have a chance right now (Punch-Out, Xenoblade, GS, S&P, Starfy), so they might be viable picks in the future (assuming they get new games that are at least decently received), but not now.I understand Andy and Ray Mk3, but they are from franchises that might/do make sense.
If MGS made it in over Castlevania (due to Kojima), then it's not likely to change now. If we get a character from Konami, it's going to be Snake first and foremost, even if Simon is a "better fit". Chances are it'd be Snake or nothing anyway (from Konami), it's not like Simon is popular or requested enough to be noticed and added over other 3rd parties.And Simon Belmont has a chance as Castlevania is big on Nintendo still. We can't guarantee Snake stays (and I like Snake).
Fair enough. I do however, think a Namco rep has a better chance than Layton, but it's your pool.Super Smash Bros. Fan said:Both are possibilities, but as with Ray, I think the chances of either showing up are so slim that I don't feel comfortable including either. Maybe if Waluigi gets an important role in Luigi's Mansion 2 will he have a more substantial chance, but for now, his lack of importance is what keeps him off the pool
As for a Namco rep, I've gone over why I doubt one, no need to be a broken record.
I wouldn't compare Micaiah to Chrom but yeah she probably ranks around Lyn and Lucina.@N3ON
I just think if Isaac is picked, they would pick his most recent form. Adult in Dark Dawn. That game is the start of the "main story" so I assume they would pick from that regardless if it is Isaac or Matthew.
Saki may have been released worldwide as a Japanese import, but it was still physically localized with Isa's game (in the same gen it was released, not 3 gens later). Both are known but I think, at least worldwide, Isa is more known from his game as I think a lot of people wanting Saki (not saying all because that wouldn't be true) seem to really only care for him and even know about him just from being an AT in Brawl. On top of that, Isa has the jetpack which would add to his move-set.
I still believe Micaiah has quite the chance, being one of the more popular females in Japan and being quite recent in the last few games. A lot of people just count her out way too much for other choices. It is not like she is a guarantee but she is likely, as likely as a Lyn or Lucina. Maybe even Chrom.
Sheriff would just be an interesting choice. I can see where you are coming from for Mike Jones (although there is always the chance they go for an exclusive character not from Japan this time, although unlikely). Yes Starman from Pro Wrestling, unlikely but an interesting choice. But if we wanted a character that has wrestling abilities, Travis Touchdown would be a better choice in that regard.
Sukapon is already from a fighting game but a ton of Retros are better than him. I just don't see why people want Duck Hunt Dog other than the fact they want to beat the crap out of him. He is better for an AT. Mach Rider would be awesome though.
Advance Wars and Custom Robo are not as likely, but they could still get a rep. If so, Andy and Ray Mk3 are the obvious choices. The likes of Isa, Little Mac, Matthew, and Shulk are higher though.
I could see what you are saying for the Belmont and Snake but there is always the possibility. Although Snake Eater 3D Snake now would be interesting.
Definitely agree with this.From what I see, there seems to be eight major factors when determining newcomers:
- Anatomy (appropriate means of fighting and locomotion)
- Origin (video game characters only, no characters from anime, cartoons, books, etc.)
- Party (1st or 2nd or 3rd party development teams)
- Popularity (fan demand)
- Recentness (major roles in post-Brawl games between 2008-2012)
- Region (international or Japan or West)
- Relevancy (overall importance to the series and/or to Nintendo)
- Sakurai (his four criteria, his friends, his biases, may be used to triumph other factors)
So not just using Mario/DK/Wario/Yoshi characters.....but going into other franchises? lololololololSo this is the rumored Diddy Kong Racing reboot's roster:
Yoshi is already a Pokemon. All he says is his own name.If this was real, that would make Pokemon part of the Mario/DK/Wario/Yoshi universe.........GOOMBA CONFIRMED AS A NEW POKEMON!
Goomba>>>Yoshi>>>>>Arcues!Yoshi is already a Pokemon. All he says is his own name.
Takes the rumour with a grain of salt for the time being.So this is the rumored Diddy Kong Racing reboot's roster: