ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!

[xepherthree]

Just telling you guys, I just finished reading the 100th page of this **** xD Took me four days. I'll be done soon. NO LIFE FTW

edit: didn't realize no one had posted in a couple of days xD

 

[Sudai]

Awesome. Someone's reading through this again. :]

We shall have a new mind soon guys. :D

 

[nash123]

Disregard dis post i got it.

 

[Tin Man]

Just telling you guys, I just finished reading the 100th page of this **** xD Took me four days. I'll be done soon. NO LIFE FTW

edit: didn't realize no one had posted in a couple of days xD

150 more pages to go lmmfao. Anyways, is ROB's footstool weird because of what happens when he lands on the ground from a footstool?

 

[GwJ]

Cool kids have 96 pages.

 

[xepherthree]

Good ****. 175 done, 79 more to go. Also, I found something interesting last night.

don't know any ways you could do this with a /moving/ opponent, but last night I was in practicing the zdrop gyro>aerial, missed, and found something cool. I haven'y exactly gotten the timing down, but if you jump straight up right next to someone, drop the gyro right AFTER the peak of your jump and fastfall, there are many interesting combos. If the gyro hits and you time the fast fall right, you can jab them during the initial stun for the gyro, or catch the gyro in the air and throw it at them while theyre recoiling from the gyro by mashing z( must be on the ground for the second throw), and hit them again. I haven't fully explored this, but you might be able to grab out of it. It even works up to the 60-low 70 %s. As I said, I don't how well this works on a MOVING opponent, but its pretty cool.

 

[Hydruz]

Ehh possible new / old UpB trick

Anyway, if you do a full glidetoss with gyro, or anything else, and you use UpB immediately after, you shoot off in that direction right or left. really fast too. id assume this would be great for edge guarding and pivot mindgames etc. try it out.

 

[chimpact]

It's extremely old. I've been using this trick since 08. Nice try there little guy.

 

[Deadweight]

Yea theres a thread about it not to long ago

 

[TheMike]

It's old, but useful.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

Hmm... you disappear for a month or two, come back, and still there are no new AT's. Gotta love ROB.

 

[TheMike]

First hit NAir > FSJ > Fast-Fall'd, Weak-Hit BAir > Loop

And you can finish it with Falcon Punch. Silly, but works D:

 

[mountain_tiger]

So Captain Falcon has a matchup in his advantage at last? Or is the combo somewhat impractical?

 

[TheMike]

ROB still has the advantage as he can punish Falcon's way of approaches. Besides, ROB also has gimping possibilities.

 

[Darth Waffles]

Or is the combo somewhat impractical?

Sudai has offered a $500 special conditions MM where the Falcon has 30 stocks (or 10 3-stock games) to get the full infinite on him. I've never seen anyone accept it lol

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

So what do the ROB mains think of Balanced Brawl?

 

[Neo X]

Is this a good mindgame?

Run toward opponent, SH, then fair at the last second before touching the ground.

 

[xepherthree]

It's extremely old. I've been using this trick since 08. Nice try there little guy.

Are you referring to Hydruz or me?

 

[Neo X]

Good use for B-Reversal Recovering (may already be mentioned)

Well I barely see this on other ROBers, so I'll mention something that is either very useful or already mentioned.

When ROB does his B/↓B-reversal, he quickly turns to the opposite direction. So since ROB is bad above people, he can mindgame by doing the B-reversal to land safely away from his opponent.

Theres also a cancel after the reversal which can be useful. Instead of B-reversal > airdodge to cancel it, he can B-reversal (canceled the correct way) to either nothing or any aerial (bair, nair, fair... uair not recommended to me). To do this, press the shield button as soon you do the B-reversal, but not TOO fast. (Im not sure whats the best way to explain but I hope you people will do this : ) )

Again if already mentioned, then my bad.

 

[TheMike]

Most of people know this, but thanks for sharing ^^
If u have any doubt if something was already posted, check the ROB Community Guide, espcially for this stuff.


Oh well, and Gyro Cancel is a great mindgame =]

 

[TheMike]

Neo X:

I don´t see it as a mindgame and i don´t thing it´s a nice idea, either =X
If the opponent is a great player, he can punish u with something OoS, for example. One of the best way for approaches IMO is SH Fair>Bair(except against Olimars with his pivot grab from hell)

xepherthree:

Hydruz. Sudai moved Hidroz´s thread for here with its posts. Therefore, people might get confused like u =P

 

[xepherthree]

xepherthree:

Hydruz. Sudai moved Hidroz´s thread for here with its posts. Therefore, people might get confused like u =P

Alright, thanks. On that note, any ideas on what I posted? I dont really know how to implement it on a moving opponent, but it could be potentially useful, i think.

 

[Mister Eric]

Like TheMike said, it is already known to most R.O.B.'s but you're right, I don't see many robots using this and they should.

 

[CT Chia]

Yes, the only way this is useful is if you gyro cancel. Shooting/charging a gyro or doing a laser has too much lag and you will get punished. this is a widely known tactic for a lot of players now. Snakes do it with nades, diddys do it with peanuts, etc.

Unfortunately though.... I don't really know how to wave bounce. I can sometimes wavebounce my laser on command, I'm not good with it though. I wish someone would make a clear and concise guide or video on it

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

Yes, the only way this is useful is if you gyro cancel. Shooting/charging a gyro or doing a laser has too much lag and you will get punished. this is a widely known tactic for a lot of players now. Snakes do it with nades, diddys do it with peanuts, etc.

Unfortunately though.... I don't really know how to wave bounce. I can sometimes wavebounce my laser on command, I'm not good with it though. I wish someone would make a clear and concise guide or video on it

You just hit B and then slam the control stick in the direction you're not facing, no? I think the timing is different in air and on the ground, with it being easier in the air AFAIK.

 

[Mister Eric]

Unfortunately though.... I don't really know how to wave bounce. I can sometimes wavebounce my laser on command, I'm not good with it though. I wish someone would make a clear and concise guide or video on it

Same here, I need to play with that moar.

 

[xepherthree]

GOOD F*CK. JUST FINISHED READING 255 PAGES OF THIS ****. God dammit, I am awesome.

 

[TheMike]

Some minutes ago i was testing the Z-Drop stuff. It´s really useful, but not that much. U know... ROB above most of characters sucks =X

However, i got a really nice combo. I used Fair and i hit the CPU at the weak hitbox and it tripped him, setting up for many things. I´ll soon test more so as to get more results.

 

[xepherthree]

Some minutes ago i was testing the Z-Drop stuff. It´s really useful, but not that much. U know... ROB above most of characters sucks =X

However, i got a really nice combo. I used Fair and i hit the CPU at the weak hitbox and it tripped him, setting up for many things. I´ll soon test more so as to get more results.

I just read this thread, -pokes above- I think I know that. XD But yeah, thats what I was saying. It's not practical, wields some interesting results IF it happens. highly situational, at best.

 

[Mister Eric]

So what do the ROB mains think of Balanced Brawl?

as for rob, i love what they did to his down throw...
as an overall game, beepgasmic it is.

 

[xepherthree]

So what do the ROB mains think of Balanced Brawl?

Eh, haven't tried it yet. Too many stages, so little time. + it would take like 2hours to save all my crap on my computer, and like 5 to put it all back on my SD card.


My computer Speed.

 

[Sudai]

Can't wave bounce on the ground. You need momentum to do it.

Chibo, wave bouncing is just hitting the opposite direction after you start the move. Timing is kind of strange but you get used to it.

Moving all this into the Q&A.

 

[stingers]

down b wavebouncing is very useful. i do it a lot.

it's great for weaving through projectiles and hitting them with a gyro or laser. i've even done it with side B a few times to reflect a projectile after running off a platform, but that's situational...and wavebouncing the up b helps with recovery when you're going under the stage.

 

[Darth Waffles]

down b wavebouncing is very useful. i do it a lot.

I agree.

Also, wavebouncing the neutral B is kind of awkward because either you'll end up close to the opponent (where you could get punished) or you'll be shooting it from a distance, in which case it doesn't really make a difference. I definitely like mixing in the down b wavebouncing though.

As for learning the neutral B one, you're probably just not pressing the control stick fast enough. Try practicing it with Snake's grenades to see if it helps.

 

[stingers]

neutral b wavebouncing is useful for offense from medium range just like the gyro is. though i prefer to use the gyro when I can because you get more out of it, if my gyro is already on the floor or something and I see the situation is presenting itself i'll do the laser. or if I can't reach with the gyro i'll use the laser. rob has one of the most useful wavebounces in the game.

 

[xepherthree]

Can't wave bounce on the ground. You need momentum to do it.

Chibo, wave bouncing is just hitting the opposite direction after you start the move. Timing is kind of strange but you get used to it.

Moving all this into the Q&A.

If it's just hitting the opposite direction I cant do it. I just cant do the wavebounce-gyro-canel-momentum--turnaroud thingy. xD

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

Can't wave bounce on the ground. You need momentum to do it.

Chibo, wave bouncing is just hitting the opposite direction after you start the move. Timing is kind of strange but you get used to it.

Moving all this into the Q&A.

Well yeah... On the ground its just a reversal, but the timing is similar to WBing, so... yesh.

 

[Sudai]

Ah. I gotcha. I tend to just do B-Turnarounds on the ground because that's how you had to do it in melee and I find it easier.

 

[Sudai]

Sudai has offered a $500 special conditions MM where the Falcon has 30 stocks (or 10 3-stock games) to get the full infinite on him. I've never seen anyone accept it lol

I forgot to quote this and say that it still holds.

 

[Mr.E]

I'd practice it solely to win $500 but then Sudai would do something homo like suicide 30 times and claim he won because I didn't technically get the infinite on him.