Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

[Cutie Gwen]

Bruh **** this it's at midnight for me.

What I expect are:

Metroid Dread, they went all in on marketing

Warioware, either a reminder that it's out now or DLC

The final Smash character

Kirby getting a new game as we know it's coming.

Xenoblade getting a new game as it's supposed to be coming.

New Fire Emblem remakes, probably Jugdral or Roy's game

EDIT: Oh and SMTV

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Guess the days of this thread are now numbered. Not that that's a bad thing but oh my! Over 650 days across 4 years, that's an achivement.
Seeing the last character won't be a given but Nintendo will get a lot of **** if it doesn't happen so it's about 95% happening. I'm not taking a guess as to who it is, I don't have the heart for that.
Other things I'm expecting/hoping for
-Metroid Dread info dump
-Mario Party info
-Fall Guys release date
-Splatoon 3 trailer
-GB, GBC and N64 on NSO
-Mario Golf updates
-New Mainline Kirby game reveal
-Deltarune chapter 2 cuz its relevant rn

Noms go to.... i dunno, is there even a point now? Only, non character-related content matters now I think. Though what is there doesn't interest me much and it's too late to start a new concept... ah screw it.
Spamton x10

 

[Michael the Spikester]

All the predictions I can think from the top of my head.

-GB, GBC, and N64 on NSO.
-Mario Golf: Super Rush updates.
-Metroid Dread information.
-Splatoon 3 trailer.
-More info on Mario Party All-Stars.
-Reveal date for the final "Sakurai Presents ???" for CP11.
-Xenoblade 3 teaser.
-More info on WarioWare.
-Bayonetta 3 trailer.

 

[Golden Icarus]

• I'm gonna guess that FP11 will be revealed at the start of the direct, with minimal details about the fighter. A Final Smash presentation will probably be announced shortly after to both show off the new character and cap off Ultimate.
  • As far as specific characters go…there’s a **** ton of possibilities. It could be a shill pick like E.M.M.I. or Euden, it could be a mind-blowing pick like Crash or Chief, but I’m gonna bet that’s it’s a long time fan request that people have slowly written off. I’ll put my bets on Captain Toad or Hayabusa because I’m bias. Both characters make a ton of sense and kind of feel like they’d already be here. A nice way to end things off, but nothing that’ll blow your socks off.
• More Metroid Dread stuff
• Maybe an update, or even just a reminder that Mario Golf exists.
• WarioWare is out now!
• Maybe some more Splat info?
• Mario Party info
• A bunch of indie rpgs that will bore the majority of watchers
• SMTV

That's most of what I can think of. I'm not expecting a ton of announcements, but mostly just reminders of what's coming out this year.

 

[Lyncario]

I gotta say, I'm happy that I managed to make my virtual idols concept get rated in the thread before it was all over.

 

[BowserKing]

My predictions
More info for Mario and Rabbids two
More Pokémon for Legends: Arceus
Metroid Dread and more Metroid news
New Smash Bros fighter revealed

My wants
A new Pokémon Rep for Smash Bros (Lugia is preferred, but I’ll still be excited if Dragapult or Toxtricity gets in)
New Kirby game
More Mario Golf DLC
Splatoon 3 news
New Godzilla Game for Switch (a pipe dream)
Amoung others
Noms: 10 for Lugia

 

[Sari]

Nintendo Direct September 2021 Predictions:

• NSO update that includes Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and N64 games. Part of a higher tier subscription that costs $40 a year. Also new controller modeled after the N64 controller.
  • Easily the safest bet for the Direct after all of the rumors and the recent controller patent.
• New Xenoblade game. Either a tease for Xenoblade 3 or perhaps something like Xenoblade Warriors.
  • A somewhat safe bet based on the comments from Melia's voice actress and the Xenoblade orchestra stuff from earlier this year.
• New Donkey Kong game.
• New Kirby game.
• Something involving Fire Emblem.
• Castlevania Advance Collection.
• Splatoon 3 news.
• More looks at Metroid Dread and SMT: V.
• Mario Golf update.
• Not expecting Bayonetta 3 based on past precedent and this recent interview which was probably conducted after the Direct was finalized.
• Smash:
  • I think that unless Sakurai tweets out "tune in tomorrow for the final Smash character" or something along the lines, we probably aren't getting a reveal tomorrow. It just feels weird for the true final character in Ultimate to be revealed in the middle of a general Direct. Especially since we had individual Smash presentations for SSB4's final DLC characters and the final characters for Ultimate's base game. Perhaps we might get a "look forward to Smash news at a later date" announcement during the Direct similarly to what happened in the February 2019 Direct.
  • If we are getting a reveal tomorrow, I'm expecting it to be either a low key pick or a promo pick. Some names that I can see happening:
    • Gen 8 Pokemon
    • Nahabino
    • Rhythm Heaven rep

As for wants:

• NSO update so it doesn't suck as much as it does now.
• New Xenoblade stuff.
• Advance Wars remake news.
• Quote or Crash in Smash idk

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Nominations:
Concept: CP11 is revealed at the Game Awards x20 (assuming Ultimate doesn't end tomorrow, this is going to be REALLY interesting to rate)

 

[Gorgonzales]

prediction time

NOT HAPPENING
-Bayonetta 3 news
-Mario Kart 9
-BotW2 news

REASONABLE PREDICTIONS
-Final DLC character is a shill pick (bonus points if its a pokemon)
-Mario Party Superstars overview (revealing the other unrevealed characters and boards)
-Metroid Dread overview
-"Remember Warioware and Mario Golf? Now you do! Go buy them."
-New Mario Golf update that's too little too late
-NSO becomes slightly less bad with the addition of new consoles
-New overpriced controllers
-Port of a beloved game sold for more than its original price (bonus points if made available for a limited time only)
-Lengthy JRPG mechanics explanation

MAYBE, MAYBE NOT
-New DK
-3D Kirby
-Odyssey 2? I think? idk
-Splatoon 3 news
-Mario + Rabbids 2 news

THINGS THAT CATER SPECIFICALLY TO ME THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
-Pikmin 4
-A new Mario Kart game that actually makes use of the Marioverse's wide array of unique characters instead of adding more babies or whatever
-Rayman, Tetris, Kamek, or anyone else that isn't a human character for Smash (except for you Heavy i love you mwah)
-Smash Run
-Interesting new IP

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

-Pikmin 4

A MAN OF CULTURE, I SEE!


Predictions:
New Kirby
New DK
More promotional material for WarioWare
Another Mario Golf update
New Horizons news
Small Pokemon or feature reveal for Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl or Legends Arceus
Lengthy JRPG mechanics explanations that I don't care about.
A disproportionate amount of time given to indie RPGs
N64 for NSO
More news on Metroid Dread
Some kind of Xenoblade news


Hopes:
Pikmin 4
Pikmin 1+2 HD
We Love Katamari Reroll or a new Katamari game
If they reveal CP11, hopefully it'll be someone good!
New Kirby
New DK
A new reveal for All Star Brawl
BoTW2 footage
Not having to sit through half an hour of Splatoon 3 coverage
A new Hisuian form for Legends Arceus
Fallout 4 port
Morrowind and Oblivion ports

 

[SargeAbernathy]

Predictions:

-Whatever this new device is leaked by the FCC. Some sort of new controller.
-News on upcoming games. BDSP, Mario Party, Metroid Dread, maaaybe Arceus.
-Game Boy and Game Boy Advance on the switch. Less certain on N64. I feel like N64 would've happened by now, and really the GameBoy and Advance make sense since the new Switch was built with handheld more in mind. Not that those older games NEED an OLED screen, but it would cater to that demographic.
-Mario Golf Update.
-Perhaps Pokemon updates for Sw&Sh, Pokemon Quest, Masters, Unite, PoGo ... in build-up to the BDSP release.
* Sw&Sh: If it gets anything it'll be a code for a Mystery Gift. An update to add more pokemon is possible since tournaments will be there still, and they may want pokemon from the new games to be represented. This is honestly the LAST chance for the Nat Dex to get into Gen 8. If they don't release more pokemon for these upcoming games ... then it's done for Gen 8.
* Quest is getting an update in China for Johto Pokemon. I can't imagine them not updating it everywhere else.
* Unite is still hot and they need to keep updates going. Otherwise they'll hit a slowdown quicker.
* Masters and PoGo. If anything just typical event/pokemon to celebrate BDSP.

and of course...

Smash: No idea who to predict. Could be anyone from a Pokemon rep (I'd want Cynthia), to Crash Bandicoot, MasterChief, Sora, Ryu, Impa, etc ... I could see a lot of people, and I'm sure it'll be someone I didn't expect. Heck I could imagine Waluigi or Geno or Isaac sneaking in. This is the last fighter and I just don't have any idea what it could be.

Games I hope to hear about: Bayonetta 3, Golden Sun series, Mother series, Kirby or DK game ...

last prediction: something no one was expecting.

 

[Jomosensual]

Is the endgame upon us?

Predictions:
Stuff for the upcoming things we already know about. Dread for sure and probably Splatoon 3. Pokemon perhaps as well
1 or 2 new game announcements. No massive drops though
No Smash character, but we do find out when we'll see the final one

If this is truly the end then it's been fun yall.

All noms to Joe Random

 

[fogbadge]

right then lets do this

predictions:
I'll give give number 11 a 50% chance of showing up. i still think theres a reasonable chance we'll get a presentation rounding off the dlc like last time. which is one of the reasons why im betting on someone extremely underwhelming.
id also like to throw out safe bets for metroid, wars and pokemon. oh and some of those 3rd party games that had their switch ports ported.
and one last surprise foe before the end of the year/early next year
oh and the mario + rabbids follow up

wants:
the last character, even if its someone awful id rather just get it over with.
unlikely but id really like updates on zelda and splatoon
id also like some more regional variants for legends
now for the never gonna happen,
hollowknight silksong
kingdom hearts 3 switch port
what monolith has been up too
pikmin 4
chibi-robo hd

 

[GoodGrief741]

It looks like the time has finally come. The long-awaited September Direct is upon us, and with it, maybe the end of an era. The end times are thrilling eh?

Well, I'll save all the mushy speeches for tomorrow. Right now is the time for hopes and dreams... and tempered expectations. Let's go!

What I think will happen

-Might as well get it out of the way: Smash. I don't see any reason to expect Smash to miss out on tomorrow. So we'll probably get the final fighter revealed with a date for the final Sakurai Presents.
-As for the identity of CP11, I'm not one to try and predict the unpredictable, but might as well, nothing ventured nothing gained and all that. I'm calling Ashley.
-Metroid Dread trailer, focusing on the history of the Metroid series
-Advance Wars, trailer focuses on online play
-Mario Party Superstars, everything left to be announced is announced
-Project Triangle Strategy gets rebranded Triangle Strategy, gets a Q1 2022 release date, I flip out
-Some minor eShop only game like BoxBoy or Part Time UFO
-Xenoblade gets something new, be it X2, 3 or Warriors
-New Kirby OR New DK, not both
-No Fire Emblem or Bayo 3
-NSO, N64 and Game Boy (no GBA yet)
-Resident Evil Revelations 3, releases in Q1 2022
-Sonic Rangers maybe? If it's like a big Direct
-That Koei Tecmo secret project for TGS is here (might be Xeno Warriors)
-Mario + Rabbids 2
-deltarune Chapter 2 on Switch?
-Highlight reel: Guardians of the Galaxy, Fatal Frame, SMTV, Monkey Ball, Nick All-star Brawl, Big Brain Academy, Metal Slug Tactics
-Either no Pokemon or only Arceus
-They GTA ports are real
-Marvel Midnight Suns gets shown off and I don't care
-That Klonoa Encore game that leaked
-One really surprising reveal for a major game
-Splatoon 3 gets a major breakdown, new idol duo announced and story is teased

What I hope will happen

-CP11 is a character I like so that it's not just Sephiroth for this pass
-They release in a long time so that I'm not bummed out waiting for my CTS to heal for me to try them out
-Ace Attorney 7
-BoxBoy 5
-Buddy Mission Bond localization
-Prime 4 and Bayo 3 (duh)
-Astral Chain 2
-Rhythm Heaven, Golden Sun, F-Zero
-A new Trauma Center (look I'm running out of never-ever games and Ghost Trick 2 isn't happening)
-Pikmin 4 and/or a new Star Fox
-Sakurai ends the Smash reveal by announcing his next game: Kid Icarus Uprising 2

I doubt noms matter anymore but if they do give them to my man Sukapon

 

[GoodGrief741]

Spoiler: Nominations post-E.M.M.I./Off The Hook pre-The Last Direct???

Sukapon x215
[Rerate] Gene x180
[Rerate] Agumon x150
Legends Trainer x145
Lugia x140
D.Va x115
Concept: Dynasty Warriors character x115
Captain Charlie (Pikmin) x115
Concept: CP11 is revealed at the Game Awards x110
[Rerate] Eggman x107
Concept: Crazy Taxi character x105
Concept: Next game is not a reboot x85
[Rerate] Sora x83
Concept: Darksiders rep x80

100 - 51

Echo (Olimar) x76
Concept: More ATs as one new item x75
Dwight Fairfield (Dead by Daylight) x75
Concept: Rocket League rep x75
Concept: SNES-era Final Fantasy rep x75
[Rerate] Zhao Yun x65
Ghirahim x60
Vi (Bug Fables) x55
Echo: Zeraora (Lucario) x55
[Rerate] Jin Kazama x55
Jin Sakai x55
Nabbit x55

50 - 25

Plague Knight x50
Springtrap x50
Joe Random (MLB: The Show) x50
Mii Costume: Zagreus x40
[Rerate] Kamek x40
B.J Blazkowicz x40
Omori x35
Filia (Skullgirls) x31
Mii Costume: Rayman x30
Concept: Large and Normal Final Destination made into separate stages x25

Under 25

Regigigas x20
[Rerate] Metal Sonic x20
Concept: Bonus Fighter x20
Donbe and Hikari x20
[Rerate] Spyro x20
Mii Costume: Scorpion x20
[Rerate] Earthworm Jim x16
Yarn Yoshi x15
[Rerate] Shovel Knight x15
Echo: Ms. Pac-Man x15
[Rerate] Ezio Auditore da Firenze x15
Concept: Bonus Stages to fill out the stage select screen x15
Penny Crygor x15
King Harkinian x15
Tetris x10
Slash Kamei (Snowboard Kids) x10
Jesse Faden x10
Infernape x10
[Rerate] Gex x10
[Rerate] Concept: Echo Fighters Pass x10
[Rerate] Q*Bert x10
[Rerate] Ryu Hayabusa x10
Mii Costume: Among Us x10
Kraid x10
[Rerate] Brian x7
Concept: Rocket League content x5
[Rerate] Thrall x5
[Rerate] Lara Croft x5
Stage: Tetris 99 x5
Concept: Raizing shmup rep x5
Concept: KOS-MOS with T-elos alt x5
[Rerate] Master Hand x5
[Rerate] Elma x5
Siris (Infinity Blade) x5
Concept: Tsukihime rep x5
Concept: Challenger Pack with more than 15 spirits x5
Arcueid Brunestud (Tsukihime) x5
Firebrand x1

Legends Trainer defeats Lugia and earns fourth place. Dynasty Warriors character cuts past Crazy Taxi character and Eggman, ties with D.Va in sixth place. Captain Charlie boosts past Next game is not a reboot, CP11 is revealed at the Game Awards, Crazy Taxi and Eggman and ties with D.Va and Dynasty Warriors. CP11 is revealed at the Game Awards also passes Crazy Taxi and Eggman and ends the day in ninth place.

Nabbit nabs over 50 noms.

Your new (final?) challenger is Penny Crygor, with 15 noms.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm calling Ashley.

which ashley? theres plenty in gaming

 

[GoodGrief741]

which ashley? theres plenty in gaming

WarioWare Ashley. Apologies to my fellow Another Code and Vagrant Story fans but those games are not getting a character tomorrow.

 

[DanganZilla5]

Direct 9/22 predictions

• A trailer for Xenoblade 3 or possibly a Xenoblade Warriors.
• Gameboy, Gameboy Color, and N64 games announced for NSO....BUT you have to pay additional money, probably an additional $20.
• More info for games we know about like Metroid Dread, SMTV, and Splatoon 3.
• GTA ports get announced.
• Klonoa Encore announced.
• Some pleasant surprises for first party and third party ports.
• Possibly the announcement of those heavily rumored Donkey Kong and 3D Kirby games.
• Now for Smash:
  • Unless if Sakurai tweets out by tomorrow saying to watch the Direct for Smash, I'm not expecting a character announcement. Instead I'm thinking more of an announcement of an announcement. Like an announcement for a final Smash Ultimate presentation.
  • However, if we do get an announcement tomorrow, I'm going all in on Arle Nadja. I've been advocating for her for a long time now so it's appropriate that I stick with her until the end.

Noms: B.J Blazkowicz x10

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

I'm going all in on Arle Nadja. I've been advocating for her for a long time now so it's appropriate that I stick with her until the end.

We end up getting Suketoudara instead XD

 

[YoshiandToad]

My predictions:

• Last Smash fighter (will disappoint millions regardless of who it is. No guesses as to who it is though)
• New Super Monkey Ball DLC character revealed
• A reminder that WarioWare: Get it Together just launched
• A reminder that Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remakes are coming this November
• A new golfer announced in Mario Golf: Super Rush
• Some info on Super Mario Party Superstars and a reminder it's out next month
• Reveal of the second half of Age of Calamity's DLC pack
• Some indie/smaller titles in a sizzle reel
• An extra bit of information regarding Splatoon 3- likely a new feature or something similar
• Some more info on Metroid Dread + reminder it's coming out in less than a month
• DLC for a game we didn't expect to get DLC

 

[NintenRob]

What happens to this thread if the last character is revealed?


Either way I'll say King Boo is who it will be. Also I think there's a chance the final character isn't revealed, instead they'll say when the presentation for it's reveal is to make a bigger deal of it.

 

[chocolatejr9]

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what we'll see here. Keep in mind, this Direct will be primarily focusing on Winter titles, so I don't know if anything coming next year is particularly likely. That being said, Metroid Dread and SMTV are pretty safe bets, maybe Advance Wars as well given we haven't had an update since E3. Also, I REALLY hope XC3 and/or the next FE game are revealed here. Too much smoke for there to not be a fire, I'd say.

As for Smash... I don't know. It could happen, but also not. Hard to say, to be honest. That being said, it's probably NOT a big name character, based on past trends.

Nominations: Agumon xMax

 

[fogbadge]

What happens to this thread if the last character is revealed?

satisfaction ratings of a few things then it closes

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Gonna do this potentially one last time.

• No Smash newcomer. Hate to be the pessimist but I doubt it. If you want a list of names I could see tonight, Rean Monokuma Nahobino Alis Arle Nadja Crash Chief
• New DK game
• New 3D Kirby
• Bayo 3 news or a short trailer
• Xenoblade Warriors
• New FE announced for 2022
• NASB gets Avatar reps
• Port lottery, gonna go with the Apollo Justice Trilogy being announced for a port, Castlevania getting some ports, and my wild card bet is that Kingdom Hearts will get some sort of port
• NO BOTW2 News
• NSO info

What happens to this thread if the last character is revealed?

We were working on a fixed schedule of satisfaction ratings, where we would revisit satisfaction scores for all the characters. We debated on including stages as well, but did not know if there would be enough community desire to discuss stages.

 

[DaUsername]

I predict:
-New Kirby
-Disappointing Smash reveal, or alternatively, "no smash lol have fun waiting another 3 months"
-35 minutes of filler, as is tradition

Noms: Kraid x5

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Looks like Nintendo's squeezing another few days outta this thread.

 

[Sari]

Alright everyone, give your satisfaction scores of this Direct.

 

[Lionfranky]

Alright everyone, give your satisfaction scores of this Direct.

So, is your nomination pretty much null?

 

[GoodGrief741]

WELP

After the buildup, the Smash fanbase now gets to limp along for 12 more days. But where there was once doubt there is now certainty: the end is in sight...

But **** that solemnity, did you guys see Chris Pratt is Mario????

- GoodGrief's Direct Thoughts -
​

• Okay so no Smash. But we got a date. Yay. I have no inferences to make from the fact that the final fighter is revealed solo regarding their identity. But this does make the case for a Metroid fighter stronger, as do the new announcements for Kirby and Bayonetta. On the flipside, Shin Megami Tensei V and Advance Wars getting token/no mentions, well, let's say I wouldn't want to be Nahobino or Andy right now.​
• Voice of Cards looks super weird and creepy and interesting and it comes out in like a month. Nice! I'll try out the demo and this looks like something I can play while my hand recovers.​
• CHOCOBO KART IS BACK WHATTTT??? AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD. I don't understand Square Enix but I don't wanna, let's keep making games like these fellas.​
• On that note, Triangle Strategy. They showed almost nothing new but it comes out just before my birthday and I know this is gonna be my GOTY 2022. Can't freaking wait.​
• Wow The Last of Us 3 is coming out way faster than I- oh, it's Kirby! Seriously though it looks fun as **** and the formula translates so naturally to 3D it makes you wonder why they never tried before. Regardless this looks like a BotW-level step for the series and I'm sold.​
• Splatoon 3. Looks fantastic, the new gadgets and the ink-whip (?) are super cool. And that story mode! Agent 3 is back, as are Callie and Marie, but Off The Hook are nowhere to be seen which leads me to believe they're playing major roles. And mammals are returning? The lore with this one is going to be crazy. Also shout-out to the Squid Research Lab guy who can make me laugh just by standing there​
• Metroid Dread will be a 10/10 and that's all that needs to be said but dang that trailer was creepy​
• Uhhh what else... Oh yeah ActRaiser remake! It's nice to see that Quintet is still alive, I love their work. If you haven't played ActRaiser check this out, it's one of the best games on the SNES.​
• The Roost is coming. Thank Christ​
• NSO N64 + Genesis looks neat but not worth my money. Nice surprise with Genesis and some of the N64 games but I'm not getting my money's worth with the tier I'm in so this is making me consider unsubscribing rather than dipping in further.​
• Bayonetta 3 is real. It has Kaiju fights (is this where all the Scalebound ideas went?) The gameplay looks intense. Bayo has a hot new hairstyle. Lappy shows up. And it releases in 2022. Holy ****ing ****​
• But now that all the kid news is out of the way, let's talk about that Mario movie. That can't be the cast. What the hell is this movie going to be? Like don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of like all the actors involved, but... What? How do you set out to cast a Mario movie and end up with Anya Taylor Joy? It reads like a ****post but it also reads like they're making the archetypal disposable animated "comedy" like Angry Birds or the Emoji Movie. You know, the kind of movie they make when they have a brand but no story to tell with it, so they coast on lame jokes and pop culture references? Hey, for all we know we end up getting the second coming of The Lego Movie or Detective Pikachu. But, man, this came out of left field for sure.​

Anything else that was on the Direct I didn't care about

Overall I'd say the Direct was a solid 7/10 that gets to become an 8/10 because of how much of it was geared towards my tastes. Not many huge new things, but the ones there looked super cool and there were some smaller neat stuff too.

My nominations still go to Sukapon, let's try to get him rated before the 5th

 

[Ridrool64]

7.5/10, this was such a good direct it made me come back for the endgame.

It sucks that all the noms are probably toast though, since we have a finite amount of days (12 days to the endgame). But if they aren't, I'll just throw all of them at a rerate of Frisk if that hasn't been done too recently already (or isn't already on the schedule).

Anyway, as for the actual direct itself...

3D Kirby real, Bayonetta 3 real, ACTRAISER REAL, N64 REAL!!! Those are awesome and in fact, pretty much everything was awesome! There's -1 for no Fire Emblem, -1 for the further paywall behind N64 Online and MD Online, and -.5 for Smash not being here properly although a full on direct is interesting. Brewster is back, Dread looks incredible and honestly I think everything in this direct is a keeper.

Anyhow... to me the big boy of the direct is Mario Party Superstars getting a more in depth look! We have the 5 boards now: Woody Woods, Horror Land, Space Land, Peach's Birthday Cake and Yoshi's Tropical Island! It's weird though that we didn't get Bowser Land, Waluigi's Island or Bowser's Magma Mountain (Eternal Star is bad), or GCN boards. No Toad is sad, but they do have DK. And an actually good library of minigames. A keeper and something I intend to snag ASAP.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Tune-in on 10/5 at 7am PT for the reveal presentation of the final Super #SmashBrosUltimate DLC fighter with Director Masahiro Sakurai. The fighter’s release date and final Mii Fighter costumes will also be revealed!

Watch here:https://t.co/wLVCdxTgtT pic.twitter.com/wCAZw2kmLZ

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 23, 2021

Well, that happened.

So, right now, here is the current plan. Tomorrow will be the last day with noms intact. Since we likely will not be doing any more ultimate discussion, I am gonna say that the next schedule will be our last for Ultimate. Use your bonus noms now before they disappear for good into the disney vault.

The current goal is to finish the next schedule by October 5th, and then dive into a fixed schedule of revisiting past satisfaction scores. How have the opinions of everyone changed with more time with the characters? We will rank some other things, like Ultimate Online, Spirits, and WoL. If there is enough interest in rating Ultimate itself or stages, let me know. After that, we will have a few more days. Favorite and Least Favorite moments in speculation. Favorite and Least Favorite Reveal Trailer. A day discussing what direction you think Smash 6 might take. And finally, predicting the five most likely third parties and first parties for Smash 6.

Will this game continue after that? I do not know for certain. For starters, we do not know the fate of the Ultimate Newcomer speculation form. If it is allowed to stay afloat and there is enough interest in the thread continuing, I would not be completely opposed to keeping it running. But we will cross that bridge when we get more info.

 

[DanganZilla5]

Direct 9/23 Rating

6/10

Overall this was a solid Direct in general, but for me it was certainly underwhelming. But let me say the positives first.

• The new Kirby game looks great. I find it funny that they didn't show Kirby floating in the air, probably because they nerfed it. But putting aside that, it looks solid and gorgeous, I'm excited for it. I'll definitely be playing some Kirby later on.
• Castlevania Advanced Collection - Unfortunately this got leaked two times lol so there was no surprise. But It's coming out today and is only $20. I never got the chance to play these ones so it's an instant buy for me.
• NSO online - I said to myself that I wouldn't get the N64 games if they were part of an expansion plan but it's mighty tempting. I want to try out Sin and Punishment and Paper Mario so badly. And there are other games on there like F-Zero and Mario Kart and ughh I'll probably get it anyway. Oh yeah and Sega Genesis?? Who expected that? It's a pleasant surprise but unfortunately I already got multiple Genesis compilations and the Genesis Mini console so this is redundant for me aside from playing with friends online.

Now for the rest of the Direct, I didn't care about it that much. I feel like I should have been hyped for the MH Rise expansion thing but I haven't played the game in two months at least so I might not get it at all. And I still have to go through the first two Bayonetta games. I was also disappointed in no Xenoblade 3 since a lot of things seemed to be pointing toward it being announced soon but it looks like we will have to wait for it for a long time still.

Overall, there were some neat surprises and I appreciate the news on stuff like Splatoon 3 even if I don't plan on buying it but this Direct just didn't give me a lot of things to be hyped for.

Oh yeah and Smash, almost forgot. It looks like the TGA reveal theory is dead but at least we will know when it will all end. And I expected that announcement of an announcement anyway so I wasn't surprised or disappointed.

Noms: B.J Blazkowicz x20

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I liked this Direct. Games-wise I’m satisfied with Hyrule Warriors DLC looking good to fill out Dread Month, and Splatoon 3 is all I need for 2022. The Mrio Movie cast gave me the best kind of laughing fit and now I’m hoping for #willarnettwaluigi and euther David Cross or Bill Hader as Wario.

Smash not being “over” now kinda sucks but I get why they want to do that and I’m at least super happy that we now do indeed have a final date. Would’ve been much worse if all that was mentioned was that Sakurai was working vewwy hawd on challenger pack 11.

noms go to dynasty warriors character. its really all i can think of thats close enough to actually get rated

 

[Sari]

September 2021 Nintendo Direct Reactions

6.5/10

I'll start with what I liked:

• N64 games on NSO! Not to mention BANJO KAZOOIE which I've never gotten to play. Definitely the best part of the Direct and I'm looking forward to some other gems being added like Bomberman Hero. While I'm not too hyped for the Genesis games since I have most of them on Steam, they're also great to have.
  • But Mean Bean Machine on day 1 though let's ****ing go
• Animal Crossing isn't dead!
• I'm not a fan of the Mario movie casting but it was great for a laugh. I completely lost it when they showed Chris Pratt and Seth Rogen. I was honestly expecting Tom Holland to show up at some point. I don't think I've ever laughed this hard during a news presentation ever.

...aaaaaaaand that's pretty much it.


Things I didn't like:

• No Xenoblade, Advance Wars, or any other new games that particularly interested me.
• No GB/GBC games for NSO. Was really looking forward to that especially since I already have most of the Genesis games.
• We got baited so hard when they showed Lappy in the Bayonetta 3 trailer. I thought we were actually getting Astral Chain 2 for a second.

I don't have any strong feelings one way or another towards the other things shown. Kirby, Splatoon 3, and Bayo 3 will probably all turn out great but I just don't have much connection to those series to get really hyped from the trailers.


I'm not surprised with there being no Smash reveal. Even before the Direct was announced, I just had a feeling that CP11 wouldn't be revealed in a general direct. At least we have some more time to rate some more characters. Though sadly the TGA reveal concept I've been nomming is now dead so I'm not sure what else to nom.

Nominations:
Uuuuuuhhhh... I guess I'll put them all towards Eggman since he's so high already

 

[NintenRob]

KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY
IT'S A NAME YOU SHOULD KNOW!
KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY
HE'S THE STAR OF THE SHOW
I KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, HE'S GOT MAXIMUM PINK!!
KIRBY KIRBY KIRBYS THE ONE!!!!!!

10/10 Direct 3D Kirby alone is enough for that, but on top of that we have.

Age of Calamity DLC actually looks pretty cool, I wasn't interested in pack one but I love that we have new story.

Metroid Dread looks as awesome as ever.

Mario Golf update is pretty cool for me, I enjoyed playing that online with my brothers.

Mario Party is hype for me.

Digging Splatoon 3 story stuff.

64 online genuinely has me hyped, loads of games I've wanted to play but never got round to. And BANJO!!!!

Maybe I'll get Advanced Castlevania collect, curious about Castlevania on Genesis. Might finally delve into the franchise.

Mario movie cast is a bit bleh. Chris Pratt as Mario? You have Charles right there. Their voices are so iconic, how could you replace that with something so generic. Digging Jack Black as Bowser.

And HOLY **** BAYONETTA 3 BABY!!! Apparently it's a new voice actor which is a shame but I didn't really notice so ok

EDIT: Nominate Lugia xMax

Seeing those extra noms, the final fixed schedule could be literally anything, no character is safe.

 

[BowserKing]

Satisfaction: 85%.

Cons: No Smash Bros fighter reveal.

Pros: More Mario Content, 64 games on Switch (Mario 64, Star Fox, Pokémon Snap, Paper Mario and Banjo and Kazooie of all games), New Kirby game, Metroid Dread, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Animal Crossing news and Mario Movie casting. Overall, quite a lot of great stuff to make up for no new Smash Bros fighter.

 

[Golden Icarus]

Haha okay okay let's get into this...

Rating: 8/10 Thank god my expectations were low because I thoroughly enjoyed that.

• I'll start with the Mario cast because that was the thing that stood out the most by far. I did not give a flying **** about this movie before, but now I am very intrigued. Chris Pratt as Mario...I have never laughed so hard watching a Nintendo presentation. I swear he is the only actor on Earth. Anya is an interesting choice for Peach, but she's talented so I'm excited to see how she does. But for real, Keegan Michael Key as Toad? Never would have guessed that, but I love it. Seth Rogen as Donkey Kong? Hilarious. Jack Black as Bowser!? Absolutely bonkers. But Charlie Day as Luigi? That is literally perfect casting. Day is one of the funniest, most high energy actors on the planet and his voice fits Luigi so well. Watch any episode of Always Sunny and you'll understand what I'm saying. Hell, just watch this clip. I have no idea if this movie will be any good at all, as they probably dumped all their money on casting and animation. But I'll be honest, whether this movie is hot garbage, or an absolute miracle...I'm watching it because that cast is amazing, ridiculous and scary all at the same time. I can't wait.
• 3D Kirby. That is awesome. It feels like something that should have already happened, but I'm glad that we're finally getting it. The last few Kirby games didn't hold my interest for very long, but I'm excited for this one.
• Splatoon 3 looks great. I'm glad that we got to see some more of it. Nothing crazy, but I like Splatoon and I'm sure I'll enjoy it.
• CAN DREAD PLEASE JUST COME OUT MY GOD I AM SO EXCITED FOR THAT GAME
• Castlevania Advance is exciting. Not sure if I'll get it, but I'm glad it's there.
• Sooooo happy that we got to see Bayo 3! Her new design is great. Kinda strange that they changed the voice though.
• Glad to see both N64 and Genesis on Switch. Now everyone can play Sin & Punishment! Guys if you like good games, then play Sin & Punishment. (Star Successor is much better, but I understand that most people don't want to bust out their Wii in 2021)
• I'll be real - I'm kinda glad that they didn't show Smash. Honestly, I wasn't mentally prepared for the final Smash character to be revealed. Knowing over a week ahead of time is kinda nice, as we finally have a date and we have ample time to brace ourselves. Get hype.

Good stuff. I was mostly expecting to see reminders of games we already knew about, so I was genuinely surprised to see so many announcements. Great Direct.

She probably has no chance of getting to the top, but **** it. All noms on Penny Crygor.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Another calcs update. While not the last, this is still a special update. Since the weekly schedule that will lock after the next day will be the last, nominations will serve no purpose. And since nominations are useless, there will be no more extra noms.

That's right. Tonight's the last time extra noms will be awarded. And the next time I do calcs, they will include the satisfaction ratings for FP11. Damn...

DJ Octavio
6.08% Chance - 47.50% Want

Soma Cruz
1.81% Chance - 67.00% Want

Echo (Bowser)
0.00% Chance - 24.60% Want
Obviously at a perfect 0% this is the least likely anything can be, meaning it beats (or maybe is beaten by) every other concept and ties with Brash the Bear, Unsafe Wiimote Guy, and Peppino.

Concept: Destroy All Humans content
3.67% Chance - 90.00% Want
The winner of predictions was DanganZilla5 with 4.00%
This is now the second most wanted concept, and in fact is the third highest want score ever.

Magolor
4.27% Chance - 62.20% Want

Fulgore
2.50% Chance - 81.67% Want
Fulgore is the fourth most wanted fighter and third most wanted out of all third parties.

E.M.M.I.
8.09% Chance - 45.00% Want
Its want scores were an even split, between people hyped for Dread and people that are also hyped for Dread but also think EMMI would work better in a non-playable role.
The winner of predictions was DanganZilla5 with 8.00%

Off The Hook
11.35% Chance - 41.60% Want
It's worth mentioning that one of their chance ratings was 68%, and that without it the score would be halved (5.68%)
The winner of predictions was WeirdChillFever with 8.88%

Soma, Echo (Bowser), Destroy All Humans content, and Fulgore join the Less Likely Than Goku.

Spoiler: Extra noms

3BitSaurus 5
Artix 15
Awakining 5
BowserKing 10
Dan Quixote 10
DanganZilla5 10
DaUsername 217
Delzethin 5
Inue Houji 74
Mr. MR 75
Nemuresu 10
Ninjaed 20
Perkilator 5
Ridrool64 25
SKX31 55
Troykv 15
WeirdChillFever 5
Wunderwaft 5

If you're on that list, you might want to hurry up and use those noms, because time's running out.

Oh, and despite having no Smash news, we still have a disconfirmation! Concept: CP11 is revealed at the Game Awards, which had amassed 110 noms, is now disconfirmed.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'd say it's a 6/10. My personal highlights were Yoko Taro, CastleVania and Kirby. I have mixed feelings on Bayo 3 as it certainly looks great and I love Bayo's new look but her voice sounds off and it simply isn't Bayo without Helena Taylor. That being said, the only outright bad thing is Chris Pratt, **** him

Morrigan Aensland x5

 

[YoshiandToad]

DLC

• Robbie and Purah as some sort of tag team character in Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity? Didn't see it coming, as I thought they'd be seperate but I'm absolutely all about it. The second pack actually looks like it'll be worth paying for with some new story and a far better character. At least I registered Robbie & Purah WERE new playable characters...didn't even twig the Guardian was playable when shown it.
• THE ROOST. I'm one of those Brewster fanboys who transformed his own house into a coffee house so I'm glad he's FINALLY arriving after a year and a half. I haven't played since Feb, but I may need to pick New Horizons up again if only for this.
• First playable appearance of a Ninji (as far as I know) in Mario Golf. That said, I didn't even register Koopa Troopa wasn't already a playable character in Mario Golf: Super Rush whilst watching, but good to see his return.
• I am so going to accidentally call the Monster Hunter Rise DLC Sunrise instead of Sunbreak. I know it's going to happen. Looks neat, still haven't got Rise yet though.
• I thought we'd be free from Smash Bros. Ultimate speculation finally but we have another month for the last fighter. It's been almost three years now since the DLC was first revealed to be a thing. That's insane. I know I'm not supposed to talk **** about Smash Bros. Ultimate here, but that is a ****ing ridiculous length of time to milk ANY game's DLC. End it already.

New stuff

• Ay, Bayonetta 3! Finally! I like her new design personally, now I just got to finish the previous two titles. The ceramic Lappy's appearance was cute and temporarily threw me off thinking Astral Chain 2 was coming.
• Metroid Dread continues to look damn good. I still adore the robot designs in this. I may actually pick this one up.
• N64 and Mega Drive games do add a huge value to the online subscription for me, but I'll hold back a few months maybe to see what we get first before throwing more money at Nintendo. Their current service is frankly not that great.
• The Mario Movie casting is very...err...Hollywood. Celebrity voices for the sake of celebrity voices. Does Super Mario of all series really need celebrity voice actors to put bums in seats? Personally I think not.
  Chris Pratt as Mario sounds like the most idiotic Hollywood thing ever and Seth Rogan as Donkey Kong sounds equally memeish. I'm not even sold on Jack Black as Bowser which I see many excited for, but I at least know he has the voice acting chops after his Po performance in Kung Fu Panda.
  Pratt as Mario...is probably still less weird than Ryan Reynolds as Pikachu, but it's still not encouraging.
  That said, finding out Kamek, Cranky Kong and Foreman Spike of all characters being brought into the movie makes me think it'll be some sort of origin story...when the hell was the last time we saw Foreman Spike even?

 

[fogbadge]

• Splatoon 3. Looks fantastic, the new gadgets and the ink-whip (?) are super cool. And that story mode! Agent 3 is back, as are Callie and Marie, but Off The Hook are nowhere to be seen which leads me to believe they're playing major roles. And mammals are returning? The lore with this one is going to be crazy. Also shout-out to the Squid Research Lab guy who can make me laugh just by standing there​

check out nintendos website theyve got a few more details

• ​
• But now that all the kid news is out of the way, let's talk about that Mario movie. That can't be the cast. What the hell is this movie going to be? Like don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of like all the actors involved, but... What? How do you set out to cast a Mario movie and end up with Anya Taylor Joy? It reads like a ****post but it also reads like they're making the archetypal disposable animated "comedy" like Angry Birds or the Emoji Movie. You know, the kind of movie they make when they have a brand but no story to tell with it, so they coast on lame jokes and pop culture references? Hey, for all we know we end up getting the second coming of The Lego Movie or Detective Pikachu. But, man, this came out of left field for sure.​

thats what illumination makes


any way for me that was a very mixed bag

First of all new kirby looks amazing. cant wait to give his firt full 3d platformer a go
spaltoon 3 continues to look great, and the extra details on the website are great
metroid dread is shaping up to be incredible
AoC dlc looks good and the a new story will be fun
i really like the look of that chocobo racing, adelbert in a kart? lol
deeply pleased that brewster is returning, hope the coffe making from new leaf is too

triangle strategy and the card one looked dull
not a 3rd party port for me
and i do wish someone would stop platinum from parading their fetishes in front of them
the casting of the mario movie is a string of very bad ideas i will be posting a full rant in the toad thread

as for smash well cant say im surprised that weve got a special presentation for the last character. thats how he did it last time. and as that last time i expect to be underwhelmed

over all 50% if noms are going give them to the legends trainer