Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

[amageish]

I like her, but don't connect with her nearly as much as Minato.

Interesting! I'm the opposite haha. I find FeMC's emotional range and sarcasm in response to the situation she finds herself more relatable then MC's stoicism. I do like both a lot though and really enjoy how they went out of their way to make them each their own persons. Her exclusive social links were good too - Saori is probably in my top 10 social-links/confidants, honestly. I'm sure it was a tonne of work, but I do hope they do that again if they explore multiple-MC-options in future titles.

 

[Sid-cada]

Persona 3 Protagonist

Chance - 0% - Thus far, Smash has yet to double dip for DLC, and I have no reason to see why Persona will break that trend. It seems that mostly Persona 4 and 5 have gotten the most fame of them all, with 3 being a Red-haired stepchild (and 1 and 2 being seen as practically different games altogether), so I don't know why he would be chosen, especally when Sega has other franchises that seem more likely.

Want - 35% - Eh... I didn't find Joker interesting enough to buy. I'll probably skip this one too, if it came to it. I'm just not that interested in RPGs.


Nominations

Nippon Ichi Rep X5

 

[3DSNinja]

Persona 3 Protagonist

Chance - 0% - Thus far, Smash has yet to double dip for DLC, and I have no reason to see why Persona will break that trend. It seems that mostly Persona 4 and 5 have gotten the most fame of them all, with 3 being a Red-haired stepchild (and 1 and 2 being seen as practically different games altogether), so I don't know why he would be chosen, especally when Sega has other franchises that seem more likely.

Want - 35% - Eh... I didn't find Joker interesting enough to buy. I'll probably skip this one too, if it came to it. I'm just not that interested in RPGs.


Nominations

Nippon Ichi Rep X5

Persona 3 ain't separated from 4 and 5, it just didn't get spinoffs because 4 came out very quickly after it. it's very clearly loved by Atlus.

 

[GoodGrief741]

also hey GoodGrief741 can you tell me how Persona 3 is worse then the original?
I can see arguments for all of the others.. even 4... but how the f*** is Persona 3 worse then Persona?

I just hate P3's gameplay. P1 is enjoyable for what it's trying to do, whereas P3 just kills it due to you not being able to control your party members.

I find the story for 3 also doesn't quite work for me, it has some great moments and overall atmosphere but it's disjointed and some elements (like Aigis) completely fall flat. 1's story is definitely more old school generic but I'm an old school kinda guy so I'm okay with that.

Ultimately it just comes down to the fact that I see no reason to play Persona 3 again because the things it does well other games do them better.

By the way, please use spoiler tags when discussing spoilers and edit them into your previous posts. I know we're talking about a 14 year old game, but you were asked to do so and it's just courtesy - you want people to give the game a try, don't you?

 

[Sari]

Day over.

Rate Concept: A character who isn't the star of their own game.

Predict Concept: Contra rep.

Day will probably end sometime after Monday afternoon.

Megadoomer

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No music post for today since this concept is extremely broad.

 

[Jomosensual]

Abstaining because this is too broad of a concept for me to feel like typing something out for

Predict
Contra rep - 1.6%

Noms
Guardian x5

 

[BowserKing]

Character who is not a star of their own game

Chance: 10%. We have quite a bit of characters in Smash who are not stars of their own game (Bowser Jr, Daisy, Piranha Plant, Jigglypuff and Meta Knight are examples). We also don't know if the arms rep is nit the star or not, so we have to wait a bit. However, there is some chance of those fighters getting in this game or not.

Want: 80 to 100%, depending on fighters, but my most wanted choice would be Dark Bowser, who would make a fun echo of Bowser. A few other choices would include Dark Meta Knight, Adeleine, Frosmoth and Porky, so there is potential of those characters joining this game, but the question is who? Overall, as long as they are fun to play as, then it's good enough for me.

Prediction: Contra Rep (10%)

Noms: 2 for Meowth and 3 for Echo: Lord Fredrick (67E)

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Day over.

Rate Concept: A character who isn't the star of their own game.

Predict Concept: Contra rep.

Day will probably end sometime after Monday afternoon.

Megadoomer

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No music post for today since this concept is extremely broad.

Question: What does it mean? Are you saying we get a character like Bandanna Dee on the roster or is this a situation like Zero in Marvel VS Capcom 3? (where the secondary character is playable while the main one is not)

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

I WANNA BE A STAR

I agree this concept can be a bit too broad and question raising. Who counts as "a star" might be very subjective. Personally, I'm guessing it means characters who don't have their own games and
I'm assuming these few popular characters can be considered to apply to this concept:
-Bandana Dee
-Geno
-Dixie Kong
-Elma
-Any NPC (such as some requested Zelda characters)

The following are characters I don't think fit this description due to their games not really having much of "a star" or other reasons.
-Any Arms character
-Any Pokemon
-Any RH rep
-Waluigi
-Hornet
-Captain Toad

This concept is likely based on the fact that all DLC fighters across this game and Smash 4, excluding Mewtwo and Plant, have been the "main protagonist" of the games they are representing. Something Hero might've enforced, with Slime apparently being turned down in favor of them. Seems to me like we're dealing with another unofficial "rule" here. It can easily be broken in the future. It might already have with Plant.
Looking at the characters I mentioned, I guess it's below 50%. Tho that's largely because of how few viable picks I can think of who fit this concept. Obviously, I have a huch one of them being likelier than the rest, tho that's for another day. I just want to say that, as long as someone has enough relevancy, popularity and moveset potential I don't see them being rejected because "Sorry, we will exclusively go for main protagonists as DLC"
Chance: 40%
Want: 100%
My most wanted character fits this concept so yeah. Wouldn't want some arbitrary fanrule to mess with that.

Contra: 35.73%
Dr Eggman x5

 

[DanganZilla5]

Character who isn't the main star

Abstain on both chance and want. This is just way too broad. At first I thought about this in terms of new franchises and how the main playable character always gets in first. But then it dawned on me that there are multiple characters in the running who aren't main characters like Bandana Dee. Plus what constitutes as a main character? Because there are characters like Dixie Kong who are the main character in certain games, but isn't the main character of the series or many of the games. As for want, again I can't pinpoint a score but it would probably be low since most of the characters I support are the main character of their game/franchise. I don't know how to approach this so I'll just end it here.

Prediction: Contra rep - 20%
Some people might shrug this off and say Bomberman is more likely or that Konami sucks even though they are clearly easy to work with. I will wait to say more for the actual day, but don't underestimate Contra.

Noms: Frank West x5
I'm still debating what to do with my extra noms.

 

[Perkilator]

UNNNNDERDOOOG, UNNNNNDERDOOOOG!
Chance: 50%
It’s looking like 50-50 with, for example, ARMS. It could be just about ANY ARMS character, assuming it’s not Spring Man. But then, there’s the chance it somehow is Spring Man; sorry if I was off-topic, I was using ARMS an example.

Want: 100%
YES, PLEASE. Give me Adeleine and Ribbon, give me Caeda, give me just about ANY side character that fits the bill for Smash. We could some more of those. Yes, probably even Tingle.

Contra Rep: 30%

Noms: Auroros, Jyk and Poppant as Assist Trophies x10

 

[Sari]

Question: What does it mean? Are you saying we get a character like Bandanna Dee on the roster or is this a situation like Zero in Marvel VS Capcom 3? (where the secondary character is playable while the main one is not)

That's where I'm confused as well.

I still don't get what this concept means. Would one of the Gen 8 Pokemon starters count as a non-star, since technically the human protagonist and the cover art legendaries could be considered as the stars instead? What about a character who is included as an alt costume like the Koopalings/Hero along with the actual star of their game? Better yet, what about secondary characters such as Dixie or Bandana Dee from series that already have the main star playable?

This concept is way too broad and confusing so I'm just gonna abstain altogether.

Contra rep chance prediction: 13.32%

Nominations:
Axel Stone x5

 

[chocolatejr9]

Abstain. I agree, this is too broad.

Nominations: [Rerate] Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x5

 

[Ninjaed]

Concept: not the star of their game

Chance: 65%
A slightly high chance because while third parties would likely be out of the competition on that one, first parties aren't... and there's one coming right up - ARMS. I don't think Spring Man is the rep we'll get, which means unless it's the star of ARMS 2, we'd be getting a rep who isn't the star of their own game. Then you have Pokémon or Zelda who could be candidates for this concept as well. But like others said, it's still quite a broad concept so... yeah, even Pokémon starters are in some kind of grey area.

Want: depends...
Yeah it's an easy cop out, so what? It's not like I'd want yet another Pokémon as much as I'd want a new Zelda rep. With a concept so broad, a want score is kinda meaningless. Unless you only care about supporting the idea that underdogs can get in.

Predictions: Contra rep - 17%

Nominations: Concept: Fighter from repped third party franchise x5 (+20 extras)

 

[3DSNinja]

I'm abstain cause how do I rate this?
Nominations: Gordon Freeman x5

 

[GoodGrief741]

Question: What does it mean? Are you saying we get a character like Bandanna Dee on the roster or is this a situation like Zero in Marvel VS Capcom 3? (where the secondary character is playable while the main one is not)

Given what NintenRob said, I'm pretty sure it also covers characters from franchises whose stars are already present.

 

[Ridrool64]

Stars don't twinkle, but the moon now shines.

Now there's a bit of a question when it comes to defining who the star is. Could you say Skull Kid is the star of Majora's Mask? The titular mask itself? Or is Link the only star?

Chance: 85%. Depending on your perspective, it doesn't even matter if the next character from ARMS isn't Spring Man, because if it is it opens the door to Waluigi, Bandana Waddle Dee, and others who were never the star. So I'm going to say that those kinds of characters have been asked for for a long time, and have attained popularity (Waluigi even contending with big third parties like Crash Bandicoot or Dante in other places) beyond their wildest dreams. Definitely a lot of good choices here.

Want: 30%. Basically everybody that I ask for IS the star of the show. That being said, a bunch of fan favorites aren't, so if only to remove them from the speculation scene for good by getting them in then I'll do it.

DLC Music x 5. I dunno why we're doing a Contra rep instead of a specific Contra character, I'm pretty sure Bill and Lance take priority above all in this case. Still, 20.65%.

 

[Garteam]

The supporting character gets the lead.

Chance: 45%
Between Waluigi, Geno, Bandana Waddle Dee, a solo Min Min, or even a third party series getting another rep like Tails or Zero, I think there's a relatively decent chance of this happening. Plus, it's not entirely unprecedented, Mewtwo wasn't the star of his own game in Smash for Wii U/3DS. There's also Piranha Plant, although whether or not he was planned for DLC is debatable. Either way, it shows that Sakurai is fine with selling a supporting character as DLC.

Want: 90%
Between Geno and Bandana Waddle Dee are the main reason I'm giving a score this high, but I naturally tend to gravitate towards supporting characters anyway. Supporting characters also tend to have more out of the box movesets than main protagonists, so I'm alright with that.

 

[warpenguin55]

The Supporting Cast

Chance: Abstain
This is way too vague. I don't know how I'm supposed to do a chance score for this.

Want: Abstain
There is no official star in League of Legends so 100%.

jk. I don't really care if the character is the main star of their game or not. Both sides have good and bad options, and it really depends on a case by case basis. As I said above, this is too vague imo.

Noms: A video game character Baldi x5

 

[NintenRob]

Oh I'm sorry for the confusion.

This basically someone who is not the mascot or lead protagonist of a game. Spring Man would be the star of ARMS, and for the purpose of Pokemon, the Starters would count as the leads. Dixie Kong was the lead protagonist in DKC3 so she doesn't count either even though she's usually a side character. Characters like Skull Kid, Bandana Dee and Min Min do count. I wanted to rate this since the bast majority of DLC has been the main character of their game. The only exception is Mewtwo and Piranha plant. One is a veteran and the other is speculated to be base game planned.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

It can easily be broken in the future. It might already have with Plant.

Mario has so many characters that eventually you run out of leads.


Character that isn't the star

Chance: Abstain - This is honestly too difficult to call. The criteria are a bit too vague. We have plenty of non-star characters in Smash, but at the same time the first character in a series (especially if they're first party) to get in is usually the face of the series, or the star. It makes the most sense that the main character gets in first. We saw this in practice with Hero being chosen to rep Dragon Quest over the more popular Slime due to being the protagonist.

Want: Abstain - Again, too difficult to call, it really boils down to which definition of "Character that isn't the star" you choose. I'd love to see another Pikmin rep in the form of Louie (even though you DO play as him alongside Olimar in Pikmin 2) There's also Dixie Kong and Bandana Dee, but their respective main characters are already in Smash, so by most common definition they are fine. However, unless there's a very good reason to include a side character over the main character for a series' first rep, the protagonist certainly deserves to get in first.

The one grey area for me is with our upcoming ARMS rep. I don't want to see Spring Man be upstaged by Ramen Bowl Waifu, but at the same time if they decide to only promote one assist trophy, I wouldn't want to see him get the promotion over Waluigi or Shadow.


Nominations:
Louie x5

Predictions:
Contra rep - 1.63%

 

[Calamitas]

Oh, yeah, also gonna double abstain on this one. Both as a concept to rate the chance for, and as something to give my own personal want scores on, I just have no idea how to rate this. It's simply far too broad for me to really say much of anything concrete.

Nominating Concept: Fighter Pass Volume 2 is primarily First-Party x5.

Predicting a Contra rep to get 7.66%.

I'm assuming these few popular characters can be considered to apply to this concept:

-Elma

Not really. Cross isn't what I'd consider the star of Xenoblade Chronicles X by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[amageish]

A Character Who Isn't the Star of Their Game

Chance: Abstain. I get what this means, but I think it's still kind of subjective and based on personal priorities? Like... People are using Slime as an example of a non-star, but Rocket Slime exists and would almost certainly be drawn from if they were making a Slime moveset. So, I'd say Slime is kind of a star? Or, for a different example, if Lora got in ahead of Rex, would she count as a non-star? She is the protagonist of XBC2's expandalone story DLC, but also that'd certainly feel like a secondary character being given priority over the "star." I don't know! I think you can make a good argument either way...

That said, I think the concept is fairly likely in its broadest interpretation. There are a lot of common requests that fit the category... Most of the common ARMS suggestions would endorse this idea one way or the other:
- If it's Spring Man, then there are some other Assist Trophies and spirits that are of non-protagonists that people will want/expect.
- If it's not Spring Man, then it is not the mascot character of ARMS. So, it's arguably not the star. Concept achieved.
- If it's Spring Man plus an echo, then we'll probably get a lot of non-stars as most common echo suggestions are for secondary/tertiary protagonists.

Want: Abstain. Yeah, it depends on the character. I do generally want a female character as DLC that isn't an alternate costume and a majority of common female character requests are for secondary/tertiary characters, so there's that I suppose.

Nominations: Level-5 Rep x15

Prediction: 5% for Contra rep.

 

[Perkilator]

After the Contra rep, I’m looking forward to rating Axel Stone soon!

 

[NintenRob]

Chance 40%
A lot of Nintendo's highest requested characters are the likes of Bandana Dee, Waluigi and a Zelda character. None of who are the stars of their own game (unless we get another Link, but no one wants that) but of course if fighter pass 2 follows a similar pattern to the first, we're gonna get majority Third Parties. And they always go for a main character because they always go for a new franchise. And Smash Bros dlc has always gone for stars of an unrepresented game, in terms of newcomers, only Piranha Plant comes from a game with some content and he was considered for base game. Although ARMS shows some hope since they had spirits.

Want 100%
Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, King Boo. All characters I want, and honestly characters I think still have a chance. I think it all depends on who comes after ARMS,and to an extent who is an ARMS character. I really hope it's not a repeat of the first pass. That said, there are still characters who are main characters that want, notably Rex and Pyra.

Nominate no third parties in this pass x5

Prediction Contra 17%

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Persona 3 Protagonist:
Particularly, there are two characters in P5(R) that are specifically written to be foils to Joker and neither currently appear in Mementos or in Joker's final smash. If Joker gets an echo (and that's a big if), then it will almost certainly be one of those two characters.

We're 100% not getting Akechi as an echo fighter of Joker, Joker already has the alternate costume (His 6th one). Same reason why we don't have Jeanne as a Bayonetta echo.

 

[DaUsername]

Not-so-all-star
Chance: 99%
I believe we're almost guaranteed to get a Gen 8 Pokémon, and since none of them are really the "star", this gets a high score by default. If Spring Man is considered the star of ARMS, then this is even more likely because he's already an AT. Outside of those two, there's also characters like Bandana Dee, the Zelda one-offs, that second Sonic character everyone thinks we're gonna get, and Geno, but aside from massive fan demand, they don't really have much going for them.
Want: 99%
I still really want Bandana Dee, so this score is also high by default. Characters like Geno and Skull Kid would also be cool to have. Basically any Nintendo character that isn't from FE or Pokémon would be okay in my opinion.
Contradiction: 15%
Noms: Gen 8 Pokémon x5

 

[Sari]

Day over

Rate Concept: Contra rep

Tomorrow will mark the second day of our ARMS ratings so predict Min Min, Master Mummy, and Mechanica.

Day will end Tuesday at 8 pm EST

Megadoomer

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Some songs to get into the Contra mood:

Spoiler: Contra Music

 

[3DSNinja]

Abstain, actually haven't played Contra so don't want to give an unfair Want rating.
Nominations: Gordon Freeman x5

 

[Jomosensual]

Really dont want to do this but abstaining again because I don't know anything at all about contra and have other things to worry about today

Predictions
Min Min - 50
Master Mummy - 6
Mechanica - 1.5

Noms
Guardian x5

 

[Perkilator]

Remember Blast Corps?
Chance: 20%
Konami might not be as generous with Contra as they were with Castlevania, especially after the Blast Corps fiasco. in which case people might accuse Sakurai of Blast Corps favoritism, regardless of what Contra content gets in.

Want: Abstain
I’ve never played Contra, so I can’t exactly give fair judgement. That being said, I’m content with what Konami content we have in the game now. At least there’s no Metal Gear Survive hurgusburgus

Min Min: 50%
Master Mummy: 0%
Mechanica: 0%

Noms: Auroros, Jyk and Poppant as Assist Trophies x5

 

[DanganZilla5]

Two jokes for the price of one

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start

Rambo

Chance: 35%

Contra is a classic run and gun series made by Konami. The original Contra for the NES is an iconic game and one of the essentials for the console. There are close to fifteen Contra games spanning across many consoles including the NES, SNES, Game Boy, DS, and Switch. So the series is long-running and has relevancy thanks to the Anniversary Collection and Rogue Corps (even if its not that good). Contra is one of those series that you would expect to get something in Smash, but it has gotten nothing, which is very surprising. Contra is THE run and gun game series and is the game that popularized the Konami Code (though its not the first game to use it, that honor goes to Gradius).

The series is owned by Konami, who has a lot of content in the game already, so its clear that they are easy to work with. As for the playable character, it will most likely be Bill Rizer whom you play in several of the games and is recognizable alongside Lance Bean. A big part of Contra is as you fight enemies, power ups will appear and you can grab them to upgrade your gun. These upgrades consist of laser shots, bullets that form a circle, spread shots, homing missiles, flamethrower, etc. In Smash Bros, as Bill Rizer damages the enemy, power ups will pop out of the enemy and Bill can grab them to upgrade his gun. This would make for a unique moveset and Mega Man shows that a mostly long-range moveset can work. In addition to the rifle, other Contra weapons consist of grenades, katana, mine gun, electro gun, and a wave gun which shoots a energy wave that passes through opponents, so the specials and other moves are covered. There are so many weapons that I cannot list them all. Just look on the Weapons page in the Contra Wiki.

Despite Contra being a popular series with legacy and awesome moveset potential, it does have some obstacles. The big one is competition. Konami has Bomberman, Frogger, Alucard, and even Raiden whom I've seen do well on some fan polls. Bomberman and Alucard are the biggest threats with them being very popular characters and from what I've seen they are more requested than Bill Rizer. In fact, that is one thing I've noticed. Contra doesn't seem to get a lot of requests from what I've seen. I just checked the Bill Rizer thread and it only has two pages. That's kind of a bummer. Maybe Contra is more requested than I thought, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.

Still, Contra is a series that should get content at some point with how iconic it is. It's a beloved series and the fact that it has zero content is something to note.

Want: 85%

I recently got the Contra Aniversary Collection and I fell in love with the games. I played one of the games on PS2 a while ago and I've known about the series for a long time. Now that I got to really dig into the series and experience it myself, I got to say that I want Bill Rizer in Smash right now. Contra is such a fun series and if they can emulate the fast-pace style of the gameplay that would be the ****. Just look back at my explanation of the moveset and imagine how fun and bonkers that would be. Contra is a great series and it deserves some representation badly.

Predictions:
Min Min - 50%
Master Mummy - 8%
Mechanica - 5%

Noms: Frank West x5

 

[Ninjaed]

Contra - abstain

I know about Contra but don't know enough about its legacy nor how well it's been doing since to give a proper rating. I'll still say it's very unlikely and that I'd rather have someone else, but that's it.

Predictions:
Min Min - 77%
Master Mummy - 5%
Mechanica - 2%

Nominations: Concept: fighter from repped 3rd party franchise x5

 

[GoodGrief741]

Aw dang, I missed yesterday. In case I'm still in time, I abstain and give my noms to Earthworm Jim.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Gonna abstain on Contra. I've certainly heard of it and seen gameplay but I don't have enough experience with it to give a good rating. Though being a Konami franchise with a lot of Nintendo history it certainly has a decent shot, especially with Konami already onboard with all of their content in Ultimate.


Nominations:
Louie x5

Predictions:

Min-Min - 50%
Master Mummy - 3.64%
Mechanica - 1.86%

 

[Ridrool64]

This really should be Bill Rizer (Contra)'s day.

Chance: Since Bill stands head and shoulders above everybody except Lance Bean, who would probably be an alt character for him anyway, I'm rating under the assumption we get him. 25%. With Cuphead Mii Costume'd, Bill is far and away the frontrunner for a representative of the run and gun genre. He's decently iconic, and has a notable history with both Nintendo and gaming in general. But unfortunately Contra's latest release was, from what I understand, a hot stinker. So Nintendo might not want to select something notable for negative reception. If this was Sakurai's choice, though, he'd be way higher, like (55 - 60%). I still think of him as somewhat of an underground pick, but by no means is he some major darkhorse it's appalling that we're overlooking. (I think Contra is the series next in line from Konami anyway, so I wouldn't worry about competition, and as long as they shoot the giant orange pellets from the NES game, I doubt the guns would be too realistic.)

Want: 60%. I only played a little bit of the arcade Contra once, on Xbox 360 as a demo. Still, you really can't go wrong with a classic NES title like Contra. An extremely unique moveset that would play like nothing else on the roster, fantastic soundtrack, and overall just feeling right at home. If Ryu Hayabusa can be considered a missing NES icon, I don't see why Bill and Lance shouldn't be either.

DLC Music x 5. Min-Min is widely considered the fan-favorite, 49.46%. Mechanica I remember being decently popular but otherwise is the first "rando", more on that when it's her day. 4.25%. Master Mummy is in the same boat as Mechanica, so 3.60% since I think less people will give him the time of day.

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Contrarian
Chance: 25%
Like Ninja Gaiden, Contra is another franchise that makes me think "Yeah, it was on the NES. It makes sense." It may not be as mainstream as other popular third-party series but it probably has enough legacy and relevancy (despite how bad Rouge corps turned out) to be considered as a sensible underground pick. Competition wise, characters like Bomberman and Alucard are definitely more popular but I honestly see Nintendo prioritizing a series not already having representation, tho I'm all for upgrades don't get me wrong. This leaves series such as Silent Hill and Frogger still on the table but I feel in Smash, a fighter for them may be considered a bit too out there. So if we get another Konami rep I'm putting my money on Contra.

Want: Abstaining

Min Min: 47.34%
Master Mummy: 4.16%
Mechanica: 5.71%
Captain Toad x5

 

[Sari]

Damn, a lot of you owe it to yourselves to at least give the original Contra a try. When it eventually hits the Nintendo Switch online service, I better see all of you playing it on day 1.

Chance: 15%
Along with Ninja Garden, Contra is one of the most classic games on the NES not represented in Smash yet. I can see this happening if Sakurai wants to go for a safe classic pick, though there are also other Konami series they'd have to compete with. The last Contra game not doing that well could also damper the chances of this happening when compared to other Konami characters.

Want: 60%
Contra more than deserves a spot in Smash given how much of a classic it is and that it popularized the famous Konami code. Granted Bomberman is still my most wanted Konami character but I'd be alright with this.

Also their classic mode should just be them fighting extremely strong enemies while you have 30 lives.

Chance predictions:
Min Min: 52.02%
Master Mummy: 1.02%
Mechanica: 3.41%

Nominations
Axel Stone x5

EDIT: Ok since Axel is in the schedule I'll have to nominate something else. I guess I'll nominate something that will eventually be discussed greatly in a couple of months or so:

Zelda (BotW sequel) x5

 

[GoodGrief741]

So, I want to apologize for not being able to do yesterday's noms. It was the last day before the top seven was set so it was probably of interest to a bunch of you. Guess it's true, D&D is satanic and it will ruin your life.

Regardless, what's done is done, so here are the nominations I'm late on:

Spoiler: Nominations post-Minato Arisato pre-Concept: A character who isn't the star of their own game

[Rerate] Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x140
Concept: Civilization series stage with music (Standalone) x135
Axel Stone x135
[Rerate] Concept: Gen 8 Pokémon x125
Earthworm Jim x125
Concept: DLC music packs x115
Concept: Level-5 rep x115

150 - 101

Junko & Monokuma x110

100 - 51

Concept: Nippon Ichi rep x100
Concept: Pokéball Pokémon becomes playable x92
Guardian (Destiny) x85
Meowth x81
Decidueye x80
Concept: Darksiders rep x80
Baldi (Baldi's Basics) x78
Brian (Quest 64) x77
Proto Man x75
Papyrus x75
Sackboy x75
Ahri (League of Legends) x67

50 - 25

Dwight Fairfield (Dead by Daylight) x50
Concept: No third parties in this Pass x50
Echo: Zeraora (41e) x45
Kasumi (Dead or Alive) x45
[Rerate] Kratos x45
Boss: Ender Dragon x42
Terra Branford x40
[Rerate] Steve x40
Dr. Eggman x40
Gordon Freeman x35
Frank West x35
Concept: Auroros, Jyk and Poppant as Assist Trophies x35
Echo: Dark Bowser (14e) x32
Concept: SNES-era Final Fantasy rep x30
Echo: Lord Fredrik (67e) x29
Urbosa x29
Concept: Assist Trophies added in updates x27
Lu Bu (Dynasty Warriors) x27
Giygas x25
[Rerate] Saki Amamiya x25

Under 25

Concept: Returning stages x21
Concept: Fighter Pass Volume 2 is mostly first-party x20
Concept: Fighter from repped third party franchise x20
Rival Pokémon Trainer x19
Concept: Second F-Zero rep x18
Stage: Bowser's Castle x16
Zeraora x15
Black Shadow x15
Gooigi x13
Fulgore x11
[Rerate] Jin Kazama x10
[Rerate] Agumon x10
Concept: Dark Souls rep x10
[Rerate] Monokuma x10
Gran/Djeeta x10
Lora and Jin x10
Otto Matic x10
The Avatar (Ultima) x10
Chell x8
[Rerate] Professor Layton x8
Taranza x6
Sparky (Clash Royale) x5
Concept: Overwatch character x5
Asha (Wonder Boy) x5
Mii Costume: Hat Kid x5
Concept: Portal 2 rep x5
Concept: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon content x5
Breath of the Wild 2 Ganondorf x5
Tick (Brawl Stars) x5
King Graham x5
Concept: Fortnite character x5
Magolor x5
[Rerate] Andy x5
Cooking Mama x5
[Rerate] Toxtricity x5
Mii Costume: Jill Stingray x5
Jill (Drill Dozer) x5
[Rerate] Takamaru x5
Concept: Darkstalkers rep x5
Louie x5
Three Mage Sisters x2
Concept: A Pokémon Trainer who fights x2
Concept: A fighter who uses all kicks x2
[Rerate] Metal Sonic x2

Axel Stone fought past Gen 8 Pokémon and was tied for second place with Civilization series stage with music (Standalone). Just how far will he go? Earthworm Jim tied with Gen 8 Pokémon for fourth place, while DLC music packs and Level-5 rep teamed up to take out Junko & Monokuma.

And that's that. I'll do the current noms, along with the new schedule, in a separate post.

 

[PeridotGX]

First time i'm back in forever, and I can't even think of a pun. For shame...

Chance - 15%. Contra is arguably the most iconic NES game not yet in Smash, giving it one solid reason to be added. Unfortunately, it's relying almost entirely on that one reason: The series hasn't had a notable release in forever, and it faces competition from the more active Bomberman. It's not even the only throwback left on the table, Ninja Gaiden would also fill that niche nicely. I wouldn't rule it out, but it's not something I'd consider particularly likely.

Want: Abstain. I've never played Contra, and the characters seem generic from both a design and gameplay perspective. I'm not opposed to it's inclusion, but it's not something I'd be too hyped for.

Nominations: PMD content x5