I toil to understand why Japes, Port Town, and Norfair are banned when Brinstar is legal.
I hope you're not trying to argue that Brinstar should be banned because those stages are banned. I'd prefer it if you were saying that those should be legal if Brinstar is legal.
The acid, as on-a-timer and avoidable as it may be, still takes up the entire stage except for a single small platform at certain points forcing characters into an aerial confrontation they might not have otherwise had.
Yeah, that's the idea. Is there something wrong with a stage not being completely static?
The moving platform on Smashville forces falling characters into a situation they might not have otherwise had, had the platform been somewhere else at the time. The situation being if they chose to airdodge/do an attack at a certain height while falling, they land on the platform rather than reaching the main stage.
The platform, "as on-a-timer and avoidable as it may be, still" forces you into a situation with fewer options. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WIT MAH HOMIE DA SV PLATFORM?
It's just not good design for a competitive stage. We've banned stages for much less pervasive things.
In other words, "other stages that
are banned have been banned based on criteria similar to some of the elements on Brinstar. Therefore, Brinstar should be banned.", correct? Is that what you're trying to say?
If so, it's a faulty argument. A better one would be "other stages that
should be/deserve to be banned have been banned based on criteria similar to some of the elements on Brinstar. Therefore, Brinstar should be banned." Then you'd have to go and explain why those "other stages" should, indeed, be banned.
The point I'm trying to make here is that it's important to make a distinction between what
is banned and what
should be/deserves to be banned. Doesn't make sense to say that Brinstar should be banned because Norfair is banned (just an example, not accusing you of this) when you don't even agree that Norfair should be banned in the first place. Instead, you should be complaining about Norfair and trying to legalize it.
I like the stage element of brawl because it allows you to use platforms and terrain to a tactical advantage. The acid on brinstar and things like it don't really achieve that as much as they achieve tightly-compressed moments of strategic singularity in which after you are hit into the air, all you can do is repeatedly attempt to airdodge into a platform 3 squirtles in length until the acid goes down again. Is it predictable? Yes. Is it easy to avoid touching the acid? Arguably (but if you can show me a match on Brinstar where they avoid the acid the whole game I'll give you a cookie). I just don't see how either of those things are the issue. I don't really understand how stage selectiveness got to a point where we pick stages based on whether or not we can predict them. That's a factor, but I don't really understand how it became the factor.
The lava is both predictable and avoidable, and it doesn't do a ****ton of damage/knockback, nor does it affect gameplay for a large amount (not even collectively) of time. Therefore, there is nothing 'wrong' with the lava, so to speak.
There is nothing wrong with the lava (and as far as I can tell, you don't have a problem with any other aspect of the stage), therefore Brinstar is (and should be) legal.
Let me know if you have a problem with my premise.
It's not OK to pretend we have some kind of standard when we ban certain stages just 'cuz. If you want Brinstar legal because of a criteria that everyone else accepts but me, I can deal with that, but I think we should have a serious talk about other stages that have been banned over things that Brinstar still gets away with.
Bold-I like this mentality (even though you would HAVE to deal with it
), hopefully you'll learn to accept it soon.
Underlined - Good.
Edit: Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but
If you want Brinstar legal because of a criteria...
NO!
BAD SUPERMODEL! BAD!
Criteria = plural
Criterion = singular
It's "a criterion", not "a criteria".
Double edit: Since it has been announced that MK is going to be banned, shouldn't this thread be closed soon? I mean, the entire OP was saying that these stages should be banned because MK2gud, but with the ban coming...the OP is entirely irrelevant now. Is the thread being kept open for discussion? I think discussion regarding these stages' legality should now take place in the UR thread.