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| Queensland Smash Meets | Meet @ Bob's house this weekend |

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Sirias

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Lol spider e-mail.
Lol morning lecture.
Is that from XKCD?
Oh, just looked at the link, yes, XKCD, who else.

Agreed with Shaya.
L2Know how to play characters in Melee/Brawl. c:

Talking to BOTS is the most ******** way to waste your time.
Fun times.
Agreed.
Zac's conversation wins.
 
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xXArrowXx said:
as a snake player i think the spider email is mmmm tasty.

so no melee tournament this month?...

only thing i am looking forward to is KK meet on `14th?
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Ah... turns out i have my dates messed up. I get back on tuesday the 14th. This means that the meet will be on Sunday the 19th of January. If enough people turn up we can make it a mini tourney for like a $2 or $5 buy in.

peace out
 
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Touch the untouchable, break the unbreakable...

Anyway, I wanted to talk to you guys about a new stage select method for Brawl that I want to try out at the next tournament.

The Melbourne(Australia) Ruleset:

In a nutshell, every stage is a starter stage (All other stages are banned) - players are given 1 stage ban each, and can cancel a randomly selected stage once each.

The philosophy being that none of these stages are really all that neutral at all.
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Now think for a second. We all realise that this game is heavily matchup based. Even with MK, different characters will do better against MK on different stages.

I would like to assert that perhaps we should look at the idea of matchups being more neutral depending on the stage.

First let me define Stage Striking as it's used in America. The proper definition of stage striking is a system wherein players take turns 'striking' starter stages from the starter list until only one stage is left, and the first match is played out on that stage.

Stage striking is a system that allows players to arrive at a stage that (assuming both players have resound matchup knowledge) should be a neutral starting point for both players. Each player knocks out the stages they either don't like, or do not wish to face their opponent given theirs, and their opponent's character choices.

So why not include ALL stages in the starter list? You may find that certain matchups are much more neutral on certain stages that perhaps are not traditionally neutral at all.

Of course one of the immediate problems with this might be that stage striking would become a rediculously tedious task. To combat that, we'd have to introduce a system where player 'A' strikes 3 at first, then player 'B' strikes 3, then player 'A' strikes 2 etc. Then it wouldn't take so long at all. Though I can see situations where players might say, "Okay, so, what's left again?" which might become a problem.

One suggestion given to me would be to simply use the stage select menu to deselect stages until just one legal stage is left, which is probably the best idea (and probably better than giving people pencils and paper).

I think this is a good idea, and promotes the liberal stage lists Australia employs.
 
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Woo, sounds good (not that I read any of it). C:

Lllooolll...
Why do I even come here anymore. Soigh.

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luke_atyeo

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lol good find vyse but I think you'll find I'm already using this method in my tourney thanks to throwback finding it for me.
 
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luke_atyeo said:
lol good find vyse but I think you'll find I'm already using this method in my tourney thanks to throwback finding it for me.
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Stage striking is not a new procedure at all, but combining it with the (extremely liberal) Melbourne stage list is a concept that is one I didn't think many had considered before me.

I like the idea of Melbourne's rule set, in that, top tier characters (Snake/MK especially) benefit a large amount from the starters, destroying the idea of any kind of neutrality. This forces a final first stage selection that is not necessarily one of the nine traditional starters and as such, creates somewhat neutral selections based on character matchups (Since the balance in brawl is affected by matchups far more than anything else).

By using the American 'Stage Strike' concept with stage selection, I want to see how different matchups are played out and what stages players arrive at after taking turns at striking.

EDIT:

It's that, or I'm making the Starter list:

Battlefield
Yoshi's Island
Smashville

and that's it.
 
luke_atyeo

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I'd go with that idea since with your other option you have yoshi's island, battlefield and smashville
and battlefield is argued by some people to be snakes best stage, and others argue that smashville is his
best stage, 2/3 for a good snake level is not good odds for the rest of the cast.

I'd at least try it, does sound viable and intresting
 
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Yoshi's Island isn't that neutral of a stage imo, I know from experience that characters like Ness or Lucas are completely destroyed on it. :p

The fact that the ghost platforms (and even the central platform to a lesser extent) are unpredictable and disruptive makes it less balanced than a stage like final destination.
 
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Juggy, go bump the Melee thread, gawd.

Anyway how 2 get to josh's?

Also, first tournament of the year.
LanSmash's "SummerLAN 09" on the 7th of February.

Get hyped. No time for Melee, unfortunately, unless you wanna come play friendlies.
But this tournament is also the GotGames regional qualifier and as such will feature pools for singles.

First Melee tournament of the year will come after this. Excepting Josh's meet which will have a small tournament should the turnout be big enough.
 
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Parliament Question Time.

1. Is anything happening on the weekend after KK's Sunday Roast Meat?
The 24th or so I'd guess.
If not, I'd like to have whoever is interested over.
Looking to have the premiere of CBF Trade Games 2, should be preceded by Sizzler/Pizza Hut and followed up with Smash/N64/Cricket. :)

2. When is Redcliffe 4? ;)

3. When does Greeny get back?
Do we need to have a "welcome back Greeny" meet etc, that has to be twice as good as the going away one, cause he couldn't make it?
Same with Chris.
Not that we need an excuse/reason to have em, and REOW, i'm rambling, yas get the idea.........:(

4. Lansmash sounds the goods, same venue I believe you said a while ago.
More Sizzler!

5. Josh will probably tell us the location when the time is right. :)

6. Oh Yeah! Anything on this weekend?>
 
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I should change what I said before about there being no Melee tournament at LanSmash.

There *could* be one, if enough people demand it/want it more than Brawl doubles. We could even run one after all of the Brawl stuff, since the event runs through to 10pm.

Also, in response to the audience's questions.

1. Not that I know of. Chris will be back, so, we have to break him in (LOL) as far as Smash and Pokemon Puzzle League goes (lookin at S-Hard lvl 5 baby...can't get past it =_=). Also I'm up for Cricket. Watching the match with Africa got me pumped. I watched the end of it at a GP's waiting room. So epic. Also CBF Trade Games 2 is a must because I star in it.

2. Redcliffe 2D EX plus Alpha HD Remix is pending a date in the future.

3. I think Greeny's welcome back to Australia should be at Redcliffe. It would be too epic for words. I'm not sure when he'll be back though :(

4. LanSmash is at the same place, ANZ Stadium.

5. Okay.
 
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