Queensland Power Rankings v.2

[Sirias]

Hahaha. Zac you negro.
DID YOU SEE HIS TAN, DAVE?!?! TAAANNN!!!

Also, I think the panelists were just chosen by themselves?
Or maybe there were PMs involved or something.
Nonetheless...
Bryce you're going on about how you don't think you should even be placed in the rankings but now you're going on about why Rob should be higher, lolll, failll.
I think that personal opinions has swayed the decisions as well.
Not over tournament placings alone, I mean.

I think doubles should be considered, and I agree with everyone that's said that I didn't win doubles alone. I didn't, of course. No way.
... Maybe only on the last games in Grand Finals. <3
Raaapppeee, olololo.

I think Chris' placement in Melee is fine, though. He is really good considering the characters he plays.
Pikachu and Young Link.
Plus he beat me once and came first at a PMS. =]
If anything he should be placed higher, but that's my opinion.

Everytime I see opinion I read it as onion.
C:

 

[tibs7]

im more surprised with kas' spot in brawl...i had no idea you were good ^_^

 

[Toby.]

Gogo J-Birds!

 

[CAOTIC]

zomg Zec's so black, but he's still whiter than I am.
We went to gym yesterday and he's buffer now too. Everyone's getting buff these days, especailly Juggy, rawr

Oh and Zec beats my everything except for Boozy cute. <3 So he's > QLD except for Kayussssss. Time for some shoppang!

 

[Sieg]

Kas is pretty good at Brawl.

It's getting him to actually try when he's playing that's the problem.

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

Stooopid boozy, he's to much cuuuute to play properly XD

 

[undead_moose]

Kas is best full stop AT EVERYTHING dont try and beat him.... EVER

 

[S.D]

Chris is actually hella good at melee, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had placed top 5 at SQUAT had he not left early.

 

[Bsrk_]

After having seen some of these players in action i'm impressed with J-Birds achieving 2nd place alongside Hotdogs in 3rd_

 

[luke_atyeo]

Once again Syke proves he has the password to EVERYONE's account.

but does he have the key to everyones heart?

 

[Nixernator]

hahaha Luke too good man.

 

[KamiStriker]

but does he have the key to everyones heart?

Only Kas' =)

 

[Sloth]

Bryce you're going on about how you don't think you should even be placed in the rankings but now you're going on about why Rob should be higher, lolll, failll.
I think that personal opinions has swayed the decisions as well.
Not over tournament placings alone, I mean.
C:

lol.
Well I saw my point as trying to find a reasoning as to why I was placed where I was. It wasn't directed at it being incorrect - but more on what sways the panelists views of who should be where.

Anyways. I am curious as to Chris being above Josh! I only played Chris in 3 friendly matches at the tournament but my onion is that Josh is still better. Not sure if they got a chance to play each other.

 

[Vyse]

@Sloth: We do have to dance around formalities and fairness. But I think accuracy is also important, so that's why you're there (Syke's not on there, even though he should be, but only because he hasn't attended a single tournament the whole year).

Same deal with Jesmo for the Brawl list. With the few tournaments he's been to this year, he's consistently proved himself to be a top player.

@Ben: I got your PM, I think the thread is fine. Scott can just contact me when anything needs to be changed.

@Everyone: I encourage you all to challenge the panel's opinion and argue your case. We put effort into it by analysing results and match brackets to see who beat who, but that's not to say we are infallible. The idea of a power ranking is to rile you people into action and make you want to get better than each other for a better spot or to even make it onto the list.

I myself want to get back onto the Melee list. Das some BS!!


Also I can infract Cao. And he can infract me back <3

 

[Hotdog]

We need a new Melee Panelist. Accel's being a bumhole =D

 

[Dekar289]

Chris is actually hella good at melee, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had placed top 5 at SQUAT had he not left early.

axe and wak combined

 

[Vyse]

^^^ Dekar speaks Truth.

 

[Scrubs]

My vote for new Melee panelist would be Kas...

IF he could take it seriously... and not put CAWK in the number 1 position

Or Sloth

 

[Sirias]

I can take things seriously when they need to be taken as such, Ben, you piece of ****.
HOWever, I don't really want to be one, considering I still cbf Smash.
Well, cbf life, but you get the idea.
Why not make Zac a panelist?

...
..
.

... Why can't I be a Brawl panelist, too? :C

 

[Hotdog]

Cause you're so shiiiiiiiiiiit at brawl zoooomg

 

[kupo]

I'm actually curious at PR rankings since this is the first thread I've paid attention to. Now imagine if there was a Aus PR. See Sieg's post.

Would character diversity ever be considered as to how people would rank? Not that it would make a difference to the QLD rankings but from Rocky, Ryan could use a variety of characters and still play at a top level (even though it was teams).

 

[Vyse]

I'm actually curious at PR rankings since this is the first thread I've paid attention to. Now imagine if there was a Aus PR. See Sieg's post.

That's a good thing though, a very good thing. It's a good indication to the health of the scene on a national level. People should want to get angry and want to do everything they can to prove where they think they should be.

Would character diversity ever be considered as to how people would rank? Not that it would make a difference to the QLD rankings but from Rocky, Ryan could use a variety of characters and still play at a top level (even though it was teams).

I don't think it should, though, I think that's where I would butt heads with Cao if it came to a nationally recognised criteria. That being said, I do support Cao's mindset behind the criteria used in Victoria's rankings because they have the health of the scene in mind.

 

[Pantsmann]

thinking back about all that "previous tournament" stuff. why is moose above me? how has he been placing in previous tournaments? i can't remember if he's been placing near/above me previously =\

national pr would be harrrrrdddddddddddd to do and would require a lot of thought. probably too much thought.

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

WTF I attended 2 tourneys this year u fak, placing 2nd and 3rd in singles and and 1st and 3rd in doubles... stupid ***** joiz, and from dave and kas's opinion I haven't gotten any worse... I'd b a panelist.. but cbf <3

I remember me and dave tried to do national prs for a top 20, it was like dave, me, bringer, shaz, freddo... omgz so old

 

[Sirias]

Because Nick is good, lol, he just tries even less than me.

I know I'm sheet at Brawl.
I'm sheet at Melee, too, though.

Character diversity is taken into account in the VIC rankings? Why?
It shouldn't make a difference considering if you can beat every (or a lot) of characters with your said character then isn't that hardcore skeeellzz? Unless you're Marth or Fox, then it's just gay.

I PLAY LOTS OF CHARS RLY GUD.
IN BRAWL AND MELEE!
MAKE ME 1ST!!!
PLOOOXXX!!!
MAKE CHRIS RAAAGGGEEE!!!

No, really.
Chris is too competitive for me.
He scared me when we were playing teams at SQUAT. XD
Got to loosen up, mannn, just take it eeeaaasssyyy (way <3 yum).

Edit:

You are worse, but we're all worse as well, so it evens out.
Panelists are gay.
Fegz.

Lolll.
FREDDO!
WANT TO PLAY FREDDOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Shaz.
And Bringer.

 

[kupo]

That's a good thing though, a very good thing. It's a good indication to the health of the scene on a national level. People should want to get angry and want to do everything they can to prove where they think they should be.

I generally disagree with National power rankings because there is just too much bickering back and forth theorectically arguing who should be placed above the other person. In my opinion, an official ranking can be decided when top four players from each state represent in a major and be based on a win ratio be it from round robin, crews or money matches (serious business thar).

Not saying that tournament results are unreliable and should never be used, but I think some of the sources other than that should be used. But then again, it's difficult to do due to time and other things that are beyond control.

DERAIL!

 

[Vyse]

Shaddap Zac, nobody disagrees. Sloth hadn't attended many Melee tournaments this year either, nor had Moose, but those two came to SQUAT and did well, and since SQUAT was weighted heavier than most other tournaments, their results got put them up there.

It's a technicality more than anything Zac. If it were purely an opinion based thing you'd easily be right up there.

I generally disagree with National power rankings because there is just too much bickering back and forth theorectically arguing who should be placed above the other person. In my opinion, an official ranking can be decided when top four players from each state represent in a major and be based on a win ratio be it from round robin, crews or money matches (serious business thar).

Not saying that tournament results are unreliable and should never be used, but I think some of the sources other than that should be used. But then again, it's difficult to do due to time and other things that are beyond control.

DERAIL!

Not really a derail. And yes I agree with what you said.

I disagree with a National PR as well, if only because it would force people to travel interstate more to maintain their placings, which is unrealistic and unfair, and too easy to skew the results. It would just be too hard to do, and too much would be based on anecdotal evidence.

It's easier to let tournament results speak for themselves.

On the other hand I want to encourage State rankings since they're much more feasible and serve an important purpose in encouraging competitive players.

 

[Sieg]

As I said.

****storm.

 

[Vyse]

As I said.

****storm.

As I said, it's a good thing.

 

[****ashi]

I'm 7th with an E tier so I win.

Needs more Toki.

 

[Pantsmann]

Josh should totally be a melee panelist.

 

[undead_moose]

So shieeet why am i even on that list

 

[D.J Cat]

Brawl:

-Kas up. Right up, no lower than 3rd.
-Hotdogs down...not by much but still.
-James and that boring Zelda need to be in there.
-Ben's not that Bull****.

Melee:
Pretty **** accurate I reckon.
Moose is new in that he has just been..awoken to the power of being good. Or something <3 ROY!!!

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

If u don't need opinions then why do u have panelists? If it's a technicality then u don't need any discussion but should rather just post tourney results.

 

[xXArrowXx]

just because you won doesn't make you good???
look at that ice skater guy... where the other 6 or something tripped and he came first.
SAKURAI.. btw this only appleis to brawl cause it has tripping in.

 

[Sieg]

Steven Bradbury.

A legend amongst Australians everywhere.

 

[Sloth]

Opinions by panelists are needed. Not purely subjective opinions, you need a panelist who can formulate an opinion based on as much factual evidence as possible. Still not a great system, but there isn't much else.

Power-Rankings need some opinion in our scene atm. With such limited amount of tournaments the idea fo where people place fall on meets/friendlies/previous results.
You can't assume people play there best at a tournament and quite often players may never get a chance to verse each other with the double elimination system.

However - I can't find the SQUAT bracket but did Scrubs play Accelerate at all?

 

[Sieg]

Scrubs lost to Kas and then he lost to S.D.

He didn't play Ryan.

 

[Pantsmann]

DJ probably wouldn't make a bad penilist either. he plays against everybody.

also bryce, here you go: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9180920&postcount=109

 

[Sirias]

Bobsy, thanks for saying I should be no lower than 3rd, but I completely disagree.
I don't know if I could beat Jezmo, I can't beat Scott or Chris, and I can only beat James (maybe) because he plays really bad against me.
Plus I haven't really attended many tournaments so I don't have much of a highly regarded place in any Brawl tournament, that I can recall.

Also Zac the rankings aren't on tournament placings alone (I think).

Arrow - I can't tell if you're FOR or AGAINST the argument you made 'just because you won doesn't make you good'.
Either way, it does make you good. Tripping is a naturally random occurrence in Brawl, so everyone is affected by it, not just one person/character.
Also, that Ice Skater guy came first because the other 6 or whatever were failures (because they tripped and they have the ability not to, unlike in Brawl where it's random), so they didn't deserve to come first.
Yeah?

Bryce, you're a noob.
If said two players don't face each other in any tournament, then that's what Money Matches are for.
Also people might not play their best at whatever tournament they go to, but that's why we have lots, and if you continually play bad at tournaments then you're not very good, right?

I think Toki and Arrow should be in the Brawl list somewhere, but not sure where.

I do think Bryce would beat Rob, but that's because Falco (and Marth) is just that lame. =/
But that doesn't mean he should be placed higher.
Only playing Captain Falcon does mean you have to be thought of as part royalty.

And again, yes, Zac should be in Melee.
1st, 2nd or 3rd.