ynnek123
Smash Ace
wait.. they put these dumb glitches back in? seriously?
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Project M Social Thread
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GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Lawl.
If you're being serious about SWD for Samus, then yes.
If you're being serious about SWD for Samus, then yes.
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genkaku
Guest
My sarcasm detector is going wild.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Is Yoyo Glitch being put back in?
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Could it be done by making the dropped hit-box an invisible projectile?
Then it could be manipulated like the YYG (deadline, spike jacket and thunder jacket are all that really matter).
Then it could be manipulated like the YYG (deadline, spike jacket and thunder jacket are all that really matter).
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Good news everyone! I was able to remove the lava plumes from norfair! I deleted the STDT and that removed the plumes.
However, the hitboxes for the plumes are randomly appearing and OHKO. Back to the drawing board. :V
JOE!
Smash Hero
im really curious as to whats the plan behind Wild vs Trained pokemon...
hopefull the "team" version fights like a "team"
(also, is Zard gettign Stealth Rock like in -? XD)
hopefull the "team" version fights like a "team"
(also, is Zard gettign Stealth Rock like in -? XD)
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
It would be so epic if you could hit the opponent with Ivysaur, switch to Charizard mid-combo and hit them again.
jalued
Smash Lord
impossible though, just due to the wii's processing power
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Unfortunately, the PT loading speed is determined by how fast the wii loads the files, and I don't think it is possible to speed that up.
I R MarF
Smash Ace
Wolf definitely had the most seemless transition to Melee physics. He is definitely top with his spacey brothers.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
im sure MK was pretty simple aswell?
XkaruX
Smash Apprentice
Idk what's been discussed about Ness' yo yo glitch, but i'd be so cool to see them back in project m in awesome matches like these ones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbqze0rnfQs
(The second match is better than the 1st one, but still both are really amazing)
7:32 Blew my mind, Yo yo glitch awesomeness.
I want this guy to test Ness M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbqze0rnfQs
(The second match is better than the 1st one, but still both are really amazing)
7:32 Blew my mind, Yo yo glitch awesomeness.
I want this guy to test Ness M
I R MarF
Smash Ace
Dang, really? Well great job making it happen. Wolf turned out great.
Also, what is his average falling speed in comparison to Falco and Fox?
JOE!
Smash Hero
you can speed up the animations for going in/out of the pokeball tho
Dantarion
Smash Champion
Soul Stunner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smnOYZtCGlI
VVG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kGUhg65Kvk
No, these were not for project m
ness wasn't even viable with the glitch haha
JOE!
Smash Hero
thats cus he wasnt a space animal or jiggs
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Or a pretty pretty princess. (Peach and Marth)
Sterowent
Smash Ace
maybe melee ness was at a low level. still in the suburbs.
as he got stronger, he began learning on the streets, and we know how street-wise ******es are in these games, yeah?
as he got stronger, he began learning on the streets, and we know how street-wise ******es are in these games, yeah?
luigi was a boss.
LegendofLink
Smash Apprentice
Wolf looked really nice there, but it seems like his entire game is shine and N-air. Hopefully the player will be forced to use more of a variety of moves when they're not playing against computers.
ruhtraeel
Smash Ace
So do comps still try to airdodge your ma attacks only to be punished with Melee airdodge?
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Well, time to type this again, awful terrible no good very bad firefox crashed as I hit submit before.
Ness should get a compromise of his different forms. Just because Brawl+'s Ness is concidered bess, his smash64 and yes even his terribad Melee incarnation have merits of their own, particularly physics wise, that most Ness mains would likely agree with.
+1 for Melee fair, uair, and throws.
+1 for Smash64 initial dash and d-tilt
+50 for Melee psi sound effects.
In addition, Ness's dash attack in Melee (commonly agreed to be called PKpush, fellow ness's?) functioned very differently from the brawl version. It pushed the opponent forward and to the ground on the first and second hits, then lifted them back up into the air on the final hit (With no hitstun due to the reset caused by hitting them down in the first place), where brawl's just auto links into a vertical hit. I would like a second opinion on this, but I think Ness should have a buffed version of the Melee DA, where the first hit semi spikes, the second hit hits at 20 degrees, and the third hits the opponent up and behind ness. These three hits obviously would provide different benefits or detriments to ness depending on how and where the move is used, but it is definitely one of his Melee moves that are easily identifiable and I believe should be expanded upon.
Next up, is there anyway for Ness to get back his thunder barrier (PKT1 continues moving with no owner when Ness is hit during it)? It should probably be looked into , but I'm not sure how projectile ownership is handled in the engine.
Finally, probably the most heated topic regarding ness: YYG. I am of the opinion that the glitch should not return in full. Specifically, I do not think Jackets should return. Most people would agree that jackets are stupid, for obvious reasons. I do however, like Deadlines and think they could be incorporated into Ness's game. Unlike the ubersafety that a jacket provides once set-up, deadlines actually force Ness to limit his actions in order to effectively use the single hit a deadline provides. Whether they would be incorporated via the original glitch (Highly unlikely) or not, allowing Ness to use them in a technical manner would provide a deeper metagame for him, as well as providing an obvious nod to the infamous maneuver in Melee.
Ness should get a compromise of his different forms. Just because Brawl+'s Ness is concidered bess, his smash64 and yes even his terribad Melee incarnation have merits of their own, particularly physics wise, that most Ness mains would likely agree with.
+1 for Melee fair, uair, and throws.
+1 for Smash64 initial dash and d-tilt
+50 for Melee psi sound effects.
In addition, Ness's dash attack in Melee (commonly agreed to be called PKpush, fellow ness's?) functioned very differently from the brawl version. It pushed the opponent forward and to the ground on the first and second hits, then lifted them back up into the air on the final hit (With no hitstun due to the reset caused by hitting them down in the first place), where brawl's just auto links into a vertical hit. I would like a second opinion on this, but I think Ness should have a buffed version of the Melee DA, where the first hit semi spikes, the second hit hits at 20 degrees, and the third hits the opponent up and behind ness. These three hits obviously would provide different benefits or detriments to ness depending on how and where the move is used, but it is definitely one of his Melee moves that are easily identifiable and I believe should be expanded upon.
Next up, is there anyway for Ness to get back his thunder barrier (PKT1 continues moving with no owner when Ness is hit during it)? It should probably be looked into , but I'm not sure how projectile ownership is handled in the engine.
Finally, probably the most heated topic regarding ness: YYG. I am of the opinion that the glitch should not return in full. Specifically, I do not think Jackets should return. Most people would agree that jackets are stupid, for obvious reasons. I do however, like Deadlines and think they could be incorporated into Ness's game. Unlike the ubersafety that a jacket provides once set-up, deadlines actually force Ness to limit his actions in order to effectively use the single hit a deadline provides. Whether they would be incorporated via the original glitch (Highly unlikely) or not, allowing Ness to use them in a technical manner would provide a deeper metagame for him, as well as providing an obvious nod to the infamous maneuver in Melee.
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Ness is already pretty good in Project M.
He can recover, combo, and edgeguard much better with the DJC option.
He can recover, combo, and edgeguard much better with the DJC option.
cubaisdeath
Smash Lord
the loading time is still determined by the disk loading. even using custom textures doesn't speed it up. the most you could do is make it a set loading time like the zelda/shiek transformation. even then, its still not quick enough to change mid combo. I don't see why you would want to use all 3. Ivy sucks, and zard and squirtle are good enough characters by themselves
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Erm... you might want to use all three for different situations? Like Shelda players?
I have yet to see a good "Shelda" player
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
There is one in my state xD
too bad "good" is subjective =/
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
In that case, I've never seen a good Fox player.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
This may be, but the opinions of Ness players should still be respected. Other than the Deadlines, all of my suggestions were simple changes to satisfy his Melee fans.
"Good enough" is hardly so when it comes to this sort of thing.
stRIP
Smash Ace
is the jumpcancel laser from wolf going to be removed or why dont i see any in the video?
I R MarF
Smash Ace
I think a good way to prevent Wolf's lasers from being abused is to increase the projectile's travel speed, but greatly decrease its range. That way, it would give Wolf players the incentive to use it for comboing/close range defense instead of possible camping habits.
If this was done, Wolf would be a really fun character with his excellent spacing power. Laser to wavedashed fsmash/dsmash or laser to shffled aerial follow ups will be his bread and butter.
Also, if you like my idea of shortening the laser's range/increasing speed, I could see wavelasering (essentially waveshines but with lasers) being a common approach AT. However, is it possible to limit the amount of onscreen blaster shots to one? That way, if wolf fires while one shot is already onscreen it will cancelled out. This would make his wavelasering a fair tactic and not an unstoppable barrage of green lasers.
If this was done, Wolf would be a really fun character with his excellent spacing power. Laser to wavedashed fsmash/dsmash or laser to shffled aerial follow ups will be his bread and butter.
Also, if you like my idea of shortening the laser's range/increasing speed, I could see wavelasering (essentially waveshines but with lasers) being a common approach AT. However, is it possible to limit the amount of onscreen blaster shots to one? That way, if wolf fires while one shot is already onscreen it will cancelled out. This would make his wavelasering a fair tactic and not an unstoppable barrage of green lasers.
That was just me trying out Wolf for the first time, using the little knowledge I read off this thread. Also, the vid was very choppy, so I couldn't really show you all that Wolf could do =/
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