Project M Social Thread

Ecks · Jun 8, 2011

Brawl just wasn't fun for me. I wasn't into competitive melee (no ATs at least) when brawl came out and I didn't like it then. The physics just ruined the fun for me :/

I guess if they add Golden Sun chars, megaman and more females I'd get it.

And are there any recent Ness matches on YTube/recorded streams?

MonkUnit · Jun 8, 2011

@Ness comment, not that I know of.

Ecks · Jun 8, 2011

Oh, I see. Hopefully these new testers will play the likes of him, zamus ,wolf, procario, etc. Looking forward to that.

Strong Badam · Jun 8, 2011

BuraiHell said:
Maybe Sakurai will try to make it appeal equally to competitive/casuals.

so like Melee? lol
the only reason casuals won't play PM as much as Brawl is because it isn't official, come on now. all smash has to do is exist for casuals to be appealed to, it doesn't matter how competitively deep it is.

also apparently Reggie said that there was going to be a C&D against Project M but then they were like "conflicted.png" and decided to use our ideas in the new smash?!
RUMORS GO ACTIVATE

Chepe · Jun 9, 2011

Have no fear P:M team, according to translators and this:

http://www.project-sora.co.jp/employment/index.html

Production on Smash 4 is scheduled to begin in October 2011, with a 2-3 year development cycle. That means the absolute earliest it will be released is Holiday 2013. Plenty of time.

I'm feeling pretty happy at the moment knowing we have Project M to look forward to. It really feels like another Smash game to be released between Brawl and 4. I want to say thanks again for all your hard work and I really can't wait for the patch, let alone the finished product! You guys rock!

Eternal Yoshi · Jun 9, 2011

Ecks said:
Brawl just wasn't fun for me. I wasn't into competitive melee (no ATs at least) when brawl came out and I didn't like it then. The physics just ruined the fun for me :/

I guess if they add Golden Sun chars, megaman and more females I'd get it.

And are there any recent Ness matches on YTube/recorded streams?

I was a late arrival to Melee.
i did get moderately better as before Brawl was released though.

I wonder if Ninty will use ideas from the Smash Workshop for the next game.........

The_Guide · Jun 9, 2011

Strong Bad said:
so like Melee? lol
the only reason casuals won't play PM as much as Brawl is because it isn't official, come on now. all smash has to do is exist for casuals to be appealed to, it doesn't matter how competitively deep it is.

also apparently Reggie said that there was going to be a C&D against Project M but then they were like "conflicted.png" and decided to use our ideas in the new smash?!
RUMORS GO ACTIVATE

Do you have a link for that, or is this just hype?

ajajayjay · Jun 9, 2011

IYM! said:
no, man, the videos of P:M are pretty nice, the players have good skills. Cubaisdeath and Jcaeser are proof of that

What happened to Cubaisdeath?

Winnar · Jun 9, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6H9gPH6yw

video of the day

"MELEE CAN'T DO THIS"

Gamegenie222 · Jun 9, 2011

LOL that GIF is too good.

Starscream · Jun 9, 2011

abcool said:
This is not a suprise coming from Nintendo. Even if they release melee 2.0(Which P:M is gonna blow out of the water) We are stuck with those dumb tablets....Does using the classic controller make AT feel as seamless as the gamecube controller?

The Gamecube controller is as synonymous with Smash as fight sticks are with traditional fighters. I believe Sakurai has even emphasized in the past that the Gamecube controller was the optimal way to play Brawl. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a "Smash Bros controller" released for the Wii U that was pretty much a Gamecube controller.

Sneak8288 · Jun 9, 2011

we can just use a gamecube controller app for the ipad.. i mean wiiu controller

Mr.Jackpot · Jun 9, 2011

Actually you can do B-Reversal's in Melee, and without the momentum reverse.

Winnar · Jun 9, 2011

Mr.Jackpot said:
Actually you can do B-Reversal's in Melee, and without the momentum reverse.

360 falcon punch =/= 180 falcon punch

MaxThunder · Jun 9, 2011

MonkUnit said:
Zelda / Sheik transform in Brawl is controlled by file loading speeds. We cannot make it as fast as Melee's AFAIK.

But doesn't it get faster if you have textures on?... since loading from the sd card is faster?... if so, you could include Shiek and Zelda's standard textures in the official release...

Dark Sonic · Jun 9, 2011

Mr.Jackpot said:
Actually you can do B-Reversal's in Melee, and without the momentum reverse.

Reverse neutral B and Breverse neutral B are different things

The first turns you around before doing the special (and maintaining momentum), the second interrupts the startup of the special to turn you around (reversing momentum).

Also...falcon can't turn around during the Falcon punch in melee, so no 360 falcon punch

leelue · Jun 9, 2011

oh wow the site is back

BuraiHell · Jun 9, 2011

Strong Bad said:
so like Melee? lol
the only reason casuals won't play PM as much as Brawl is because it isn't official, come on now. all smash has to do is exist for casuals to be appealed to, it doesn't matter how competitively deep it is.

True.
I meant I don't think he'd make it like melee but maybe he'll allow some hitstun and focus a little bit on balance. I doubt he'd keep the ATs.

You know what? My whole last post was flawed. Ignore it. I apologize. Melee, being the work of art that it is, already was good on both sides. I already knew that yet I'm being thick. Sorry.

Strong Badam · Jun 9, 2011

Mr.Jackpot said:
Actually you can do B-Reversal's in Melee, and without the momentum reverse.

You can't do B-Reversals in Melee. B-Reverse: You reverse in the first few frames. Melee reverse, which is still possible in Brawl: you reverse before you input the neutral B.

Mr.Jackpot · Jun 9, 2011

Doesn't that do a side special?

Grim Tuesday · Jun 9, 2011

Only if you are awful and can't let go of the stick fast enough.

JediKnightTemplar · Jun 9, 2011

libertyernie said:
Oh, and someone WILL make an adapter to use a GameCube controller. Eventually.

If they used the numchuck slot in the Wiimote (as far as I know the closest thing to a physical controller port on the system), I can see problems with that, mainly dual analog stick controls mapping to the Wiimote.

Sneak8288 · Jun 9, 2011

Lol grimtuesday... I approve of that post... and its official, my controller is broke

SHOTTYGURU · Jun 9, 2011

Sneak8288 said:
. and its official, my controller is broke

Yea its funny that you say that cause mine just broke a couple days ago -____-

♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡ · Jun 9, 2011

So uh guys, are you gonna release the patch before Genesis 2?

I apologize, only wanted to publish that pic

Eternal Yoshi · Jun 9, 2011

Resize that plz. Last I heard the patch would likely be released AFTER Genesis 2.

libertyernie · Jun 9, 2011

JediKnightTemplar said:
If they used the numchuck slot in the Wiimote (as far as I know the closest thing to a physical controller port on the system), I can see problems with that, mainly dual analog stick controls mapping to the Wiimote.

It would just map to buttons on the Classic Controller. No problem there.

Supreme Dirt · Jun 9, 2011

I still stand by Classic Controller Pro > GameCube Controller.

Except for the control stick, but it's not that hard to get used to.

Mostly because CCPro fits perfectly in my hands.

MaxThunder · Jun 9, 2011

libertyernie said:
It would just map to buttons on the Classic Controller. No problem there.

well... you would probably lose light presses on the shoulder buttons then... and you'd loose ZL... so it might work, but not perfectly...

I think the best thing would be if Nintendo took the gcc, added a ZL and released it as a Wii accesory... or WiiU...

@Supreme Dirt: I'd say gcc>classic pro... mostly because the controll sticks of classic pro feels slightly awkward to me, and so does X and Y for some reason...

and yeah... fits good in my hands, but a gcc fits better...

JCaesar · Jun 9, 2011

I like the weird GCC face button layout a lot better than the SNES button layout every modern controller uses. Not to mention if we ever get light-shields working, the CCPro will be at a big disadvantage.

libertyernie · Jun 9, 2011

I often use a Classic Controller, but that's just because that's what I have out already. I do map Special to Y, Attack to B, and Jump to X and A. Since I'm not really a very skilled player, the type of controller I use isn't that important to me.

MaxThunder · Jun 9, 2011

JCaesar said:
I like the weird GCC face button layout a lot better than the SNES button layout every modern controller uses. Not to mention if we ever get light-shields working, the CCPro will be at a big disadvantage.

There's that too... the GCC is different, and that's something nintendo should keep... it sorta fits in with all their wierd stuff...

Dantarion · Jun 9, 2011

Classic Controller has analog triggers.
the more you know

Ecks · Jun 9, 2011

Sneak8288 said:
its official, my controller is broke

Tell it to get a job.

The thing about the gcn controller is that it's mad awkward for some games. I can't play GGAC+ or TvC with gcn controller.

Eternal Yoshi · Jun 9, 2011

I understand. I can't play MGS on the GCN controller either. Feels so awkward.

Onomanic · Jun 9, 2011

Frankly I see little hope in the GCC coming to the Wii U. It's 10 years old, Nintendo is probably done with it. Which is sad but probably true. But hey, we can hope for any kind of GCC adapter. Who knows?

Winnar · Jun 9, 2011

JCaesar said:
I like the weird GCC face button layout a lot better than the SNES button layout every modern controller uses. Not to mention if we ever get light-shields working, the CCPro will be at a big disadvantage.

"Big disadvantage"

How do you figure that? Light shielding is situational at best

Though yeah I do love me some GCC button layout

Alm5252 · Jun 9, 2011

You guys can always buy the Gamecube controller made by Gigaware.

It has an adapter to either be a "Classic Controller" or a regular Gamecube Controller.
(as in, it connects either to a Wiimote or Gamecube Port)

I have one, and i like it alot. its wireless. :D

Edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31KLX-BHQXL.jpg

It also has the ZL, ZR buttons, Start, Select, and Home buttons.
I guarantee i will be using it for the Smash Bros for WiiU.

Supreme Dirt · Jun 9, 2011

Dant, CCPro doesn't have analog shoulder buttons. They are digital.

The original one does though.

Onomanic · Jun 9, 2011

Alm5252 said:
You guys can always buy the Gamecube controller made by Gigaware.

It has an adapter to either be a "Classic Controller" or a regular Gamecube Controller.
(as in, it connects either to a Wiimote or Gamecube Port)

I have one, and i like it alot. its wireless. :D

Edit: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31KLX-BHQXL.jpg

It also has the ZL, ZR buttons, Start, Select, and Home buttons.
I guarantee i will be using it for the Smash Bros for WiiU.

As good as a concept as that is, 3rd party controllers always suck for Smash. Perhaps just suck for everything.

EDIT: On a completely unrelated note, there is a Wifi tourney tomorrow for PM. Should be fun!

http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=12112

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