Project M Social Thread

[Starscream]

I wasn't referring to Anthony, I was talking about Rhubarbo's post.

Ah, my mistake. Carry on.

 

[hotdogturtle]

"Gourmet Race (J.Z. Mix)" by Salvation by Fatih Records.

=]

Thank you muchly.

 

[Rhubarbo]

I don't see any evidence to suggest that the harsh criticisms from THE MAJORITY of casual players had to do with what they saw at face value.

Obviously if the project interests them, they'll look into the project more and realize that we are copying Melee. The end result is no different, you'd just be adding a pointless middle step.

Taken from the PM website:
"Code: Melee Air Dodge Function: Directional Air Dodge based on analog stick input, stationary Air Dodge when there isn't a directional input, character goes into special fall afterward. Along with the Melee Air Dodge comes the infamous Wavedashing Advanced Technique, a universal spacing tool that adds options to a player's gameplay and adds depth."

This is what I mean by turning off the casual player. Instead of posting this on the main site, a write up like this could be more enticing:

Matrix Aid Dodge: Defy space and time by stopping in mid-air! By doing this move, you also get to dodge anything your opponent throws at you. Watchout though, because after you pull this technique off, you'll run out of energy and go plumetting stragiht down! There are many unique ways to use this move to your advantage (refering to wavedashing of course).

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Woah, dude. That description is like, totally awesome, dude.

RAAAAAAAAADICAL!

 

[Rhubarbo]

Woah, dude. That description is like, totally awesome, dude.

RAAAAAAAAADICAL!

Inspired by the Smashbros Dojo!

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Lol, I thought the same thing about the Dojo posts

Treating us like kids who get excited by exclamation marks and speech that is worded so it seems like the writer is speaking directly to us to convey the information.

 

[leelue]

god... the dojo... what a waste of electrons.

a couple pages back, there was a discussion about Sheik and her chain.
If it released and retracted quickly (in the same vein as ivysaur's up b) would that be acceptable? I mean, that way its a deterrent that would hit places her needles and aerials can't.

 

[DarkDragoon]

god... the dojo... what a waste of electrons.

a couple pages back, there was a discussion about Sheik and her chain.
If it released and retracted quickly (in the same vein as ivysaur's up b) would that be acceptable? I mean, that way its a deterrent that would hit places her needles and aerials can't.

Characters don't need all their moves to be useful.
-DD

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Characters don't need all their moves to be useful.
-DD

For some reason... >_>

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

not sure if this has been asked yet, and since there are currently 1649 pages in this thread i wont go searching.

Ok so on the project M website it names 14 characters who are going to be in the first demo. but on the characters section on the same sight 3 of the characters are missing. I happen to be interested in one of these characters. Now my question is... are these 3 characters not finished yet? if so i understand not putting them up yet. or is someone being a little lazy (which as a somewhat lazy person i would understand as well). I figure the demo is coming out soon to about a months time so all of the characters dont have to be finished yet but with the demo release date being before pound 5 i figure the characters they are showing off all have to be nearly done so i figured i would ask.

 

[Starscream]

For some reason... >_>

Yeah srsly, what up with that. Prime example that gets brought up a lot being Ganon's Utilt. I doubt him having a good/usuable/notextremelysituational/forthelulz Utilt would boost him to top tier status. And even if it did it's not like we couldn't, *gasp*, buff everyone else.

Seems to me that more good moves means more ways to mixup your gameplay and more options. Options are good.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Exactly. I mean, if the reasoning for not buffing moves like Sing is because they are worried about changing the character's playstyle...

That's a pretty weak excuse, it isn't difficult to buff something to the point where it is useable but not over-centralizing. You've already buffed Falcon in such a way with his side-b ledge grab.

 

[Starscream]

And on top of that, Smash Bros movesets are already pretty small compared to traditional fighters. If Project M truly is aimed at the competitive community then we should try to maximize that competitive potential.

 

[Demon-oni]

At least you aren't in the world of mewtwo, where your character is literally defined by only half his moveset...

 

[leelue]

I think every move should have a moment where its the best option. even rarely.

even captain falcon can punch a missed rest.

but ganons up tilt? if the wind up was cut in half it'd still be a long time... but at least it wouldn't be laughable. I'm sure some tweaking can be done to remove the garbage out of the garbage moves.

Or be edited out completely, like pk freeze.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

At least you aren't in the world of mewtwo, where your character is literally defined by only half his moveset...

I play Pichu.

'Nuff said.

 

[Zef]

because ganon sucks **** and captain falcon is the best

 

[Zef]

wow ok

Spoiler

lolololololololololololololololololololololo

 

[iSonic4twOFFtheWaLLzdsi9698]

woah thanks man you're really neato

 

[Zef]

Gee, sure is trolly in here

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Gee, sure is trolly in here

Mah boi, true trolling is what all great Smashers strive for.

 

[Zef]

lmfao @ grim. sad thing is, it's true

but cant wait to see the mods go ham

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I just wonder what Bionic is up to.

 

[iSonic4twOFFtheWaLLzdsi9698]

I sure am enjoying these lame, dated references.

 

[Zef]

wtf i've never seen this thread w/ no one viewing it

 

[JCaesar]

So...

About Sheik's chain. One of Sheik's most important weaknesses was her recovery. Allowing her chain to tether the edge would lessen that weakness. Any buff to Sheik:M is a buff to how good she was in Melee, and that's not something we're looking to do.

 

[MK26]

MK26, the more I read your wall of text, the more I love it. I think I'm going to straight copy and paste it if that's okay with you

lol go right ahead

 

[Grim Tuesday]

So...

About Sheik's chain. One of Sheik's most important weaknesses was her recovery. Allowing her chain to tether the edge would lessen that weakness. Any buff to Sheik:M is a buff to how good she was in Melee, and that's not something we're looking to do.

Not necessarily a recovery buff... Brawl has already shown that giving more options for recovery doesn't increase competitive depth.

It could always be made into a useable attack though, same with Ganon's Up Tilt.

 

[Magus420]

Chain is already usable as an attack with its bugged refresh rate/turbo damage lock crap that works much better with higher gravity.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Alright, cool!

So... why are you against doing that for Ganon's Utilt then?

 

[Ghostbone]

Ganon's u-tilt is basically a completely pointless move.

It's almost the same move as warlock punch...they're both moves with incredible power and extremely high start-up time.


Anyway, I'm not sure if this has been asked before.
Is second jump recovery from brawl being kept?

 

[Vigilante]

Honestly, Shiek is not only very powerful, but also very easy to be good with. Boosting her would greatly upset the game's balance. WHile they do have a "no-nerf" policy, they can't go around boosting everyone.

Edit: I do agree that gannon's U-tilt is a waste of a move.I personally would eithe rmake it a slightly slower Captain Falcon U-Tilt, or replace it by a new one altogether, were I thinking of making a Smash Bros game.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Honestly, Shiek is not only very powerful, but also very easy to be good with. Boosting her would greatly upset the game's balance.

Did you even read my post?

Exactly. I mean, if the reasoning for not buffing moves like Sing is because they are worried about changing the character's playstyle...

That's a pretty weak excuse, it isn't difficult to buff something to the point where it is useable but not over-centralizing. You've already buffed Falcon in such a way with his side-b ledge grab.

 

[Vigilante]

I read your post Grim. Just giving my general oppinion.

 

[Kewkky]

Ganon's utilt comments: I'd like P:M to be as close as possible to Melee, and as far as possible from other mods, thank you.

 

[Winnar]

Demooooooo :D

 

[MonkUnit]

are the Melee FD and Y.S stages released today by KTH/GW the same versions that are going to be on the demo?

The Melee FD, maybe. KTH's YS, absolutely not.

 

[Juushichi]

Idk, if they could shave like 1/3rd to 1/4th the charge time off of it, I'd appreciate it. I mean, in terms of what Ganon does, it's not super useful. But I would possibly want to use it when someone ****s up a recovery. That'd be nice.

I don't know if it's just me though, but ftilt and dtilt just look faster with their new animations. If that's so, good. I did want a faster ftilt. It would help Ganondorf so much.

Edit: Hi Monkit!

 

[Ecks]

I always thought ganon should have had falcons 64 usmash. At least as a utilt.

 

[Magus420]

The Melee FD, maybe.

I know it has the wrong camera settings.