Project M Social Thread

[PB&J]

please dont do anything to lucario,if lucario is nerfed lucario would suck to be honest.

So many complaints...lol

Crouch Canceling is kinda dumb in pm imo. I hope you guys nerf that crap hard

 

[shanus]

Its funny that the pmbr actively just discussed his side+b just before this comvo happened. Long ago, i was fairly certain we testef his jab to sideb to be able to be rolled or spot dodged by buffering them, but we might have afjusted the KB on jab since that point. Anyways, lucarios free shieldgrab is something we are keeping an eye on.

 

[Divinokage]

IF YOU GUYS NERF LUCARIO IM NEVER GONNA PLAY AGAIN.

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oh wait there arent any lucario mains for this joke to really take effect lol

Vwins plays Lucario and I'm also about to play some more today. He usually beats me with those kinds of things even if im somewhat used to it, I don't feel like I'm playing a Melee game anymore.

 

[foshio]

Vwins plays Lucario and I'm also about to play some more today. He usually beats me with those kinds of things even if im somewhat used to it, I don't feel like I'm playing a Melee game anymore.

Ahh you guys should record, Vwins is probably the highest level melee player playing Lucario right now(shots fired fuzzyness), it would be interesting to see what he does.
Also when this conversation started I was on the fence about the whole thing, but as it has progressed I have been turning over to Kage and others point of view. I am glad that the back room is taking this conversation seriously and listening to everyone's feedback.

 

[GHNeko]

a stream would be awesome

 

[Divinokage]

It would but.. we never have recorded before actually.. lol.

 

[GHNeko]

NOW IS A GREAT TIME TO START YOU CANADIAN. :mad:

 

[9Kplus1]

Ahh you guys should record, Vwins is probably the highest level melee player playing Lucario right now(shots fired fuzzyness), it would be interesting to see what he does.

leffen's Lucario is the best Lucario

his Yoshi sucks, though

 

[Life]

Is it reasonable to wait until Lucario starts winning things before we nerf him?

 

[Hylian]

CC can be countered.

And no I am not sad, I'm just being real.

So can hit confirmed command grabs?

I am also just being real. The amount of inescapable combos in melee is quite large, seeing a melee player complain about a command grab is very confusing.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Is it reasonable to wait until Lucario starts winning things before we nerf him?

Not really. This is the kind of mentality that makes people want Ike nerfed.

 

[iLink]

But you can't, I tried before.. you can't jump out and it didn't even looked like you can roll.

Please try rolling. Like I said in my post, you'd be surprised how many times you can actually escape it by rolling. I'm actually still not completely convinced it's guaranteed because of how many times I've avoided it this way.

EDIT: And if it doesn't turn out to be avoidable, can it be changed so it is but create a mixup with downb? What I mean by this is if you know the opponent is going to roll, you can chase them with downb instead of doing sideb for a punish or something of the like. So essentially just making it a tick throw but with the ability to cover other options like rolling or jumping.

EDIT2: Also did everyone ignore the fact that FALCO of all people might have one of these guaranteed grabs on shield?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I'm actually incredibly amused at supposedly good Melee players *****ing and whining over a command grab.

Like really? Really? Because you MIGHT not be able to roll, but oh you haven't tried to yet.

 

[cannedbread]

too many mights itt. lucario's free force palms on shield is kinda bunk but then again lucario has a terribad approach so only time will tell. i think kage and others struggling with lucario will find a way to shut him down.

i'm wondering if upb oos will work with ganon...

^^ wavedash out of zelda's up-b to follow him?..

too risky especially when he's across the map. i just punish while he's pkt2 since the priority is bad but i'm not really ruling it out completely. it's just so suprisingly safe against zelda. faster characters or characters with more reliable projectiles will probably just stuff him so it won't be a problem.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Up-B is slower than grab out of shield.

I'm confident that every single one of Zelda's moves has more priority than PKT2 :V

 

[Yakal]

pm zelda is bad

 

[Kink-Link5]

Zelda reminds me of vBrawl Olimar. Super ******** keep away design coupled with "glass cannon" traits.

Really polarising and really annoying, with very few even matchps.

 

[cannedbread]

but... those kicks. i can't resist the allure of the kicks.

 

[9Kplus1]

pm zelda is bad

Don't make me fall in love with you

Buff Zelda plz

 

[Kink-Link5]

At least give back Demo 1 Zelda.

I mean if she's going to be bad she should at least be fun to use.

 

[Yakal]

Buff her with what? She's as feasibly good as she can possibly be.

what is demo 1 zelda like?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Buff her with what? She's as feasibly good as she can possibly be.

what is demo 1 zelda like?

Faster, but worse side B set ups is the biggest difference.

 

[iLink]

Am I the only one that is mostly fine with this Zelda?

Her fair/bair was pretty ******** in demo 1. The only real difference was how din's fire worked and it was still mostly useless in demo 1 when people realized they didn't really have any reason to be afraid of the fireballs.

Only thing I really think she needs is a rework on din's fire. Maybe just give it a slightly faster start-up or cooldown?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Next Week on PROJECT M THREAD: Wario Buffs are discussed, and the PMBR gets agitated by it.

 

[cannedbread]

i'm pretty much completely fine with how zelda works now. i just hate fighting campy marths. stop complaining about zelda and complain about characters that are actually need to be complained about.

 

[Onomanic]

Or we can stop complaining and deal with these MUs rather than *****ing for nerfs immediately. Just saying.

 

[iLink]

The only thing that people seem to be complaining about is how much zelda sucks

Along with every other character in the demo which also sucks

but they are also broken

 

[Yakal]

They should leave her the way she is.

 

[cannedbread]

she's completely fine. can we have a real discussion now?

 

[Onomanic]

Speed up Toon Link's boomerang so there are more annoying projectiles in this game. Please.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Please remove powershielding since it negates any use projectiles have.

 

[GHNeko]

Please remove fox he centralizes the meta game.

 

[Onomanic]

Please remove fox he centralizes the meta game.

GHNeko for president.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Also centralize Fox he removes the meta game

 

[Dark knuckles]

Add link some speed into him so he is even with the rest of the roster

 

[iLink]

Next time, on Dragon Ball Z

Pikachu is overpowered and needs nerfs. Marth is struggling behind everyone and is terrible.

Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion.

 

[cannedbread]

 

[Yakal]

You guys are funny.

 

[cannedbread]

Marth is struggling behind everyone and is terrible.

hahaha qft. but no seriously he doesn't seem quite as good as he is in melee yet. his range feels shorter and his throws feel so much laggier in general.

Spoiler

he needs buffs

 

[iLink]

I was mostly kidding about marth

mostly