SnowMan
Smash Journeyman
I'm going to bed.
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PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Dr Peepee
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
A couple more matches of my scrubby Falco. Any critique is welcome.
ChivalRuse (Falco) vs Big Wenz (Doctor Mario) 1
ChivalRuse (Falco) vs Big Wenz (Doctor Mario) 2
ChivalRuse (Falco) vs Big Wenz (Doctor Mario) 1
ChivalRuse (Falco) vs Big Wenz (Doctor Mario) 2
FoxLisk
Smash Lord
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i originally posted this in the TO6 thread by accident but:
good. i know you dont want to hear anything about WF, but I think you were making a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes and you still definitely have a chance to beat juan with falco still. You just have to be on your best game when you meet him, and I feel like you weren't at TO6 (or at least not in winners).
Yeah I wasn't myself in winners, but I was much moreso in GFs. That's why I'm so eager for those videos to go up.
I'm gonna keep working and see what I can do.
Also I found I can waveland onto the stage from the edge pretty easily lol. Hopefully Twitch will want to play tomorrow so I can see what I can do with it.
Also I need to do critiques...
I'm gonna keep working and see what I can do.
Also I found I can waveland onto the stage from the edge pretty easily lol. Hopefully Twitch will want to play tomorrow so I can see what I can do with it.
Also I need to do critiques...
Palpi
Smash Hero
I'm going To try to get vids up soon...ish
DJRome
Smash Hero
who is twitch?
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
We should record again next time.
PP's little brother. He's a pretty crazy good Fox.
DJRome
Smash Hero
how would you say he compares to you?
Never played him, but based off of Videos he's definitely a better player than I. I mean, he gets to play with PP all the time and when you play someone as good as PP frequently, you either get really good really fast or you quit really fast, LOL.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Oh we will, been doing workkkk
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Mogwai's explanation doesn't account for ManaCloud.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
lolololololl
DJRome
Smash Hero
wasofunny?
well, I said this:
and KK being the witty fellow that he is took a jab at Manacloud:
shrugs, hate all you want, but Manacloud was still, in the grand scheme of things, pretty good at melee for his time.
DJRome
Smash Hero
so are you pp or is manacloud pp in this case?
JPOBS
Smash Hero
manacloud was ken's brother
in this case, PP is Ken. mogwai was trying to explain how Twitch is probably very good despite not going to tournies and stuff cuz he plays PP all the time.
but manacloud wasnt anything remarkable, besides having the #1 player living in his house.
in this case, PP is Ken. mogwai was trying to explain how Twitch is probably very good despite not going to tournies and stuff cuz he plays PP all the time.
but manacloud wasnt anything remarkable, besides having the #1 player living in his house.
DJRome
Smash Hero
i guess that rule just doesn't apply then 
cause i **** twitch rofl
cause i **** twitch rofl
and I'm just saying that Manacloud was still considerably better than the average player of his time, so while he (and Twitch for that matter) might not put up remarkable performances at the national level, they're still pretty good players and it's largely because they have brothers who are absurdly good which makes them have to get good or just get unbelievably frustrated and probably quit the game.
EDIT: Is DJ Rome trolling? I'm so confused. He opens by saying he doesn't know who twitch is and then talks about how he ***** twitch, I'm now really confused
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EDIT: Is DJ Rome trolling? I'm so confused. He opens by saying he doesn't know who twitch is and then talks about how he ***** twitch, I'm now really confused
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JPOBS
Smash Hero
agreed. i just thought KK's response was witty.
DJRome
Smash Hero
i confused manacloud with manalord lol
We're also not directly comparing Manacloud to Twitch in terms of their smash ability, 
, we're just saying that they both happen to have brothers who are incredible players and you know what, I'm done trying to explain this cause it's getting really frustrating, LOL.
, we're just saying that they both happen to have brothers who are incredible players and you know what, I'm done trying to explain this cause it's getting really frustrating, LOL.
DJRome
Smash Hero
what is the age gap with ken and manalord?
i heard twitch was only 11
i heard twitch was only 11
SnowMan
Smash Journeyman
Handicap down to 1 and damage ratio to 0.5 against a dummy Ganon. Best way to practice shield pressure.
That's my buddy!
I like doing it vs. Bowser actually.
X1-12
Smash Champion
me too
also I do it on fourside or something with a wall so even at like 400% he doesn't move
unknown522
Some guy
me too......
apparently doc goes even (or beats jiggs?) Looks like I have to figure out why
Doc vs. Jiggs is gay as hell. I dunno, I can't pull it off, but he just like, pills her and cape is gay vs. puff aerials and dthrow -> KOBE is ****. otg molests my jiggs so hard with Doc it's not even funny, but I still feel like I should just be able to bair him and win but it never works out, lol.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
yo name ain't hbox
even if you think you're shooting enough lasers, you're not.
if the burden of approaching is on Samus, you'll win, if you're approaching her, you'll lose (unless one player is way better than the other, in which case this is all irrelevant).
otg
Smash Master
Sup guys?
As for Doc (or Mario really because they are so similar) vs. Falco, having played the matchup from both sides and played against some incredibly campy and homo falcos (sup mogwai?), I feel like I have some insight to throw out there if people are interested.
I don't even remember us doing Doc vs. Jiggs, but I don't doubt it. I've beasted on every Jiggs I've ever played except for Hungrybox, and I think it's just because he is way better then me. I don't know if the matchup is even or Doc's favor, who cares, chances are Jiggs wins, but I do think Doc has some things going for him. This isn't the Doc or the jiggs boards tho, so enough of that.
As for Doc (or Mario really because they are so similar) vs. Falco, having played the matchup from both sides and played against some incredibly campy and homo falcos (sup mogwai?), I feel like I have some insight to throw out there if people are interested.
Falco puts it up Doc's butt imo
laser laser laser bair laser utilt laser laser dair -> death combo is guaranteed at all %s as far as I can tell.
laser laser laser bair laser utilt laser laser dair -> death combo is guaranteed at all %s as far as I can tell.
otg
Smash Master
Yeah it's gay.
It's really Falco's match to lose. As long as you never approach, bair/utilt Doc's approaches, platform camp like a homo and don't wrecklessly attack Doc's shield, he is in for a really hard uphill battle. Now admittedly, Doc does have little tricks to get around Falco's BS, but they require him taking a big risk to get anything started, so once again it just tips towards Falcos favor again.
Wes are we playing today? I texted you.
It's really Falco's match to lose. As long as you never approach, bair/utilt Doc's approaches, platform camp like a homo and don't wrecklessly attack Doc's shield, he is in for a really hard uphill battle. Now admittedly, Doc does have little tricks to get around Falco's BS, but they require him taking a big risk to get anything started, so once again it just tips towards Falcos favor again.
Wes are we playing today? I texted you.
I dunno how I missed that text, I texted you back
Twin_A
Smash Champion
Dear Dr PeePee,
My name is Kyle. My twin brother picked up Falco not too long ago and it rejuvinated his interest in the game. With my willingness to practice dwindling, I thought I too would give Falco a try. Low and behold I found myself sitting with a max handicap .5 damage ratio bowser on FD for an hour just doing dair/nair shine over and over again for almost an hour. It was fun.
My question to you doctor is this: I want to start working on shine -> waveland on the platform -> shine for shield pressure or combos. What technique do you use for this and how would you recommend I practice this?
As well, does this look like a rash to you?
Regards,
Kyle
Haha <3 ya PeyhPeyh
My name is Kyle. My twin brother picked up Falco not too long ago and it rejuvinated his interest in the game. With my willingness to practice dwindling, I thought I too would give Falco a try. Low and behold I found myself sitting with a max handicap .5 damage ratio bowser on FD for an hour just doing dair/nair shine over and over again for almost an hour. It was fun.
My question to you doctor is this: I want to start working on shine -> waveland on the platform -> shine for shield pressure or combos. What technique do you use for this and how would you recommend I practice this?
As well, does this look like a rash to you?
Regards,
Kyle
Haha <3 ya PeyhPeyh
I'm not PP, but what I'll tell you is to just practice it in games, I don't think there's a nice reliable way to practice it outside of just trying it vs. techs on platforms. But I gotta say when I do it vs. shields it feels really clunky and I think I should be doing something else instead.
Twin_A
Smash Champion
Do you use X or Y to jump out of the aerialed shine, or do you shine then move the stick up and back down rapidly?
And thank you :D
And thank you :D
the same button I jump with (X). Up would be awkward IMO, because you need to quickly come back down. I only use up if I don't need to reset my stick to down right afterwards (shine bair and shine grab specifically).