PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

simple nair/dair > dsmash @ 60 by an edge is so good.

 

[Sinji]

simple nair/dair > dsmash @ 60 by an edge is so good.

Yea thats Mango's tactic. he uses that a lot in pound 4.

 

[Rubyiris]

dair fsmash: welcome to 2003/2004.

 

[Brookman]

dair fsmash: welcome to 2003/2004.

Do you think he wants a cookie??

 

[FoxLisk]

dair fsmash is my favourite combo

...with marth

 

[genkaku]

my entire vs. marth game is avoiding dair fsmash and spacing nairs, haha.

 

[unknown522]

spacing n-airs?

are you falcon or something?

 

[Mogwai]

my entire vs. Marth game is approaching, specifically vs. a grounded Marth from above after using my double jump. Needless to say, yall need to get on my level at the Marth matchup.

 

[Rubyiris]

Falcos Nair ***** sword-happy marths.

@mogwai: that made me giggle.

 

[Sinji]

I like utilt>shine as the finisher against Marth,

 

[Bones0]

I didn't think anyone had trouble hitting Marth. He doesn't even have a shield. The hard part is not getting hit by a 30 foot dash attack and not getting grabbed by his 30 foot grab (who doesn't love wavedashing backwards and still getting grabbed?).

 

[Sinji]

Its just his spacing that makes him hard to approach.

 

[FoxLisk]

Its just his spacing that makes him hard to approach.

so deep

 

[crush]

so deep

 

[Rubyiris]

Drpp: I am in a similar situation as you. My training partner(s) are all fairly advanced players but I'm so much better than them that I really just don't get anything out of the trairust other than not getting rusty. How do you deal with that?

 

[Divinokage]

No matter what the level of the player is, there's always situations that come up which you can work at.. Keep it simple. It's time to experiment.

 

[Sinji]

Look at the situation like Usain Bolt before starting the 100m race. Formulate a strategy.

 

[Divinokage]

Look at the situation like Usain Bolt before starting the 100m race. Formulate a strategy.

There's no time for strategy when you're getting ***** lol.

 

[Rubyiris]

No matter what the level of the player is, there's always situations that come up which you can work at.. Keep it simple. It's time to experiment.

Hardly if ever in my base. The things I'm weak in these players don't do.

I usually have to sandbag or play secondaries just to keep it fresh.

 

[Divinokage]

Hardly if ever in my base. The things I'm weak in these players don't do.

I usually have to sandbag or play secondaries just to keep it fresh.

No I'm saying there's limited situations that happen in melee. Top players do the exact same just as any other player.. they're just faster and do different/better decisions. Like really break it down. "Oh he just double jumped close the ledge, I can do this to punish" You know? "Oh he used Fox illusion on the ledge, my answer could be an aerial or reverse upair" Things like that. It definitely works vs anyone. Need more examples?

 

[Sinji]

No I'm saying there's limited situations that happen in melee. Top players do the exact same just as any other player.. they're just faster and do different/better decisions. Like really break it down. "Oh he just double jumped close the ledge, I can do this to punish" You know? "Oh he used Fox illusion on the ledge, my answer could be an aerial or reverse upair" Things like that. It definitely works vs anyone. Need more examples?

After reading that, I have an idea how top players perform in tournaments. They make good decisions and preforms it quickly without hesitation.

 

[Divinokage]

After reading that, I have an idea how top players perform in tournaments. They make good decisions and preforms it quickly without hesitation.

Well ya but, then when you face someone at top level.. it's really about how to mindgame someone to make a mistake. Find those openings and stuff. And to do that it's lots of movement, DD, wavelands.. etc. And then finally start attacking at some point, if you can. =P

 

[Bl@ckChris]

top level play is really either knowing how to shooting lasers, or knowing how to deal with them.

 

[JPOBS]

So philosophical^

 

[Bl@ckChris]

pp's the best cause he knows how to shoot lasers. armada and hbox are almost at his level because they know how to deal with them.

mango is the hidden boss cuz he knows both. we'll see at genesis if pp does or not.

 

[Divinokage]

I find it funny that people say they are the ones that are going to be in Top 4. The battle didn't even happen what a ****ing joke.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

*shrug* those are the four that have proven themselves the most as of late. others include axe, jman(is he going?), hax, amsah, chu, chillin, and yourself kage.

but idk if you know how to deal with lasers well enough. and neither of us know how to shoot them.

 

[Mogwai]

yea dude, M2K sucks, you should probably keep sleeping on him.... -_-

 

[Divinokage]

Yes.. they all suck!!! Lots of crushing will happen!

 

[crush]

Lots of crushing

 

[Rubyiris]

*shrug* those are the four that have proven themselves the most as of late. others include axe, jman(is he going?), hax, amsah, chu, chillin, and yourself kage.

but idk if you know how to deal with lasers well enough. and neither of us know how to shoot them.

Wobbles would like to have a wodlrd with you

 

[Bl@ckChris]

i had thought about putting him on there. didn't know if he was going to genesis.

 

[Deleted member]

top 5 is def going to be some combination of mango pp hbox axe m2k axe. bet on it.

 

[Wenbobular]

Sleepin' on Armada eh ...

 

[Sinji]

Axe is improving though.

Apex: Placed 5th
Pound V: Placed 4th
Zenith: Placed 3rd

 

[Wenbobular]

Zenith was like 1/3 the size of Pound <_<

 

[Sinji]

You got a point their. Lets just see if Axe plays his heart out again.

 

[genkaku]

Shroomed got this

 

[crush]

I thought zenith was 1/5 the size of pound five?

 

[Strong Badam]

more lke 1/3rd or 2/5ths