Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver (It's here :3!!!!)

[uhmuzing]

Ya me too. I'm gonna exploit every part of this game. I'm gonna get HeartGold since Ho-oh is so epic.

 

[Gengar]

These are some sprites I found cool or funny.

Note Mr. Mime's sweet dance move.

...
IS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE A GENGAR?

They better fix it or someone will be very upset.XD

The thing I can't for the most is the feature that allows your Pokemon to follow you around.How epic would it be to have your Lugia or Ho-Oh follow you around?
...Maybe a bit creepy but I want my Darkrai besides me at all times,yes?XD

Also,I remember reading at Cerebii that there is this THING that comes with the game that allows you to import a Pokemon from the game into the THING and you can carry it around with you.Its kind of that old school Pikachu pet thing.If you haven't already guessed,I don't know what its called.XD

 

[M.K]

...
Also,I remember reading at Cerebii that there is this THING that comes with the game that allows you to import a Pokemon from the game into the THING and you can carry it around with you.Its kind of that old school Pikachu pet thing.If you haven't already guessed,I don't know what its called.XD

Its called a PokeWalker, and we all know about it.

 

[Mewter]

Lol, I can't wait to carry that thing around with me while marching or running track and coming home to a level 100 Dragonite.
Or you could just rapidly shake it as violently as you can, you know, just to "shake things up."

-sigh-Let the headaches begin and I haven't even gotten my hands on the game yet.XD

Yes,definitely looking forward to the PokeWalker.No longer an unidentified THING whose name I forgot.XD
I hope it has a pedometer;that will encourage people to walk to take care of their Pokemon or something.-lazy-

It does... doesn't it?

 

[Gengar]

Venasaur gets Block now, with Leech Seed it'll be a ***** to take down if you don't have a counter.

-sigh-Let the headaches begin and I haven't even gotten my hands on the game yet.XD

Yes,definitely looking forward to the PokeWalker.No longer an unidentified THING whose name I forgot.XD
I hope it has a pedometer;that will encourage people to walk to take care of their Pokemon or something.-lazy-

 

[T-major]

...
IS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE A GENGAR?

They better fix it or someone will be very upset.XD

That sprite is the frame for when it moves around.

normal battle sprite is:

 

[Gengar]

That sprite is the frame for when it moves around.

normal battle sprite is:

Ah,ok...
Still,he looks like he found a dead body or is trying to fly;just looks awkward in general.He looks like he's on something.Not very pretty.It is funny to look at and the last thing I want is Gengar winning the "Creepy Moron Sprite" award.XD!
Not a big fan of the Gengar Platinum sprite;makes me look fat.>_>

 

[Firus]

Lol, I can't wait to carry that thing around with me while marching or running track and coming home to a level 100 Dragonite.

As awesome as the PokéWalker is going to be, you're not cool until you've carried a Pokémon Pikachu 2 around in your pocket almost every day for years and years now.

*Awesome face*

 

[Mewter]

As awesome as the PokéWalker is going to be, you're not cool until you've carried a Pokémon Pikachu 2 around in your pocket almost every day for years and years now.

*Awesome face*

Yeah! High five!

That is pretty awesome. :embarrass

 

[LLDL]

I just traded some pokemon from my Pearl to my Soul Silver cart, and it trades right off the bat with no problems. And they also follow you around. LOL at my rayquaza following me, and ROFL at palika. It's rediculous.

 

[Mewter]

I just traded some pokemon from my Pearl to my Soul Silver cart, and it trades right off the bat with no problems. And they also follow you around. LOL at my rayquaza following me, and ROFL at palika. It's rediculous.

"Woah! What is-"
CRUSHED
"Be careful in my-"
CRUSHED
"Celebi a-"
CRUSHED

 

[CRASHiC]

Ah,ok...
Still,he looks like he found a dead body or is trying to fly;just looks awkward in general.He looks like he's on something.Not very pretty.It is funny to look at and the last thing I want is Gengar winning the "Creepy Moron Sprite" award.XD!
Not a big fan of the Gengar Platinum sprite;makes me look fat.>_>

That's how all the spirtes look now. They went for that I think.
Water pokemon no longer float about, they actually sit on the ground.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I like how some of the gym leaders, and Steven Stone, can be traded with in this new game.

Having Jasmine's Steelix sounds cool/

 

[Blaziking17]

I like how some of the gym leaders, and Steven Stone, can be traded with in this new game.

Having Jasmine's Steelix sounds cool/

Best part is, you can trade any Pokemon to get Jasmine's Steelix!! XD

 

[Dai Tian]

You can trade with the Gym Leaders? Whoa... Good ****

 

[Neo Exdeath]

We can get GYM LEADERS' POKEMON?!?!
Especially Jasmine's Steelix?

This is the best game ever.

 

[uhmuzing]

This is making me go crazy about pokemon.

 

[Bowser King]

Wow, the safari zone is looking really amazing with so many pokemon and the customization option.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Oh god, I hate Japan. They always leave the good countries waiting for ages.
I want this game really bad (**** emulator, I want the real deal)

 

[Firus]

Guys...just keep in mind, hype ruins games. RUINS them.

Case in point: Brawl. If the game hadn't been so hyped, it wouldn't have failed quite so badly. Not to say that the competitive aspect would've been any better, but people would've been expecting less.

It's hard not to want the game, but you're not doing yourself any favors if you convince yourself it's the best game ever, because the more you think about it, the less it's going to be able to live up to your expectations.

Just a piece of advice from personal experience.

 

[Bowser King]

Guys...just keep in mind, hype ruins games. RUINS them.

Case in point: Brawl. If the game hadn't been so hyped, it wouldn't have failed quite so badly. Not to say that the competitive aspect would've been any better, but people would've been expecting less.

It's hard not to want the game, but you're not doing yourself any favors if you convince yourself it's the best game ever, because the more you think about it, the less it's going to be able to live up to your expectations.

Just a piece of advice from personal experience.

Brawl was mostly hated because of how different it was from melee and 64. HG/SS on the other hand is still like G/S and other pokemon games.

Plus, very few people had any idea on how brawl would feel when you played it or how things like Subspace would turn out. In the case of HG/SS, we know almost exactly how it's going to be thanks to videos of people playing it and the fact that its a remake of a game that most people have already played.

I can see where your coming from about hype killing a game but I think brawl wasn't exactly the best thing to compare it too.

 

[Spire]

Guys...just keep in mind, hype ruins games. RUINS them.

Case in point: Brawl. If the game hadn't been so hyped, it wouldn't have failed quite so badly. Not to say that the competitive aspect would've been any better, but people would've been expecting less.

It's hard not to want the game, but you're not doing yourself any favors if you convince yourself it's the best game ever, because the more you think about it, the less it's going to be able to live up to your expectations.

Just a piece of advice from personal experience.

Great point Firus. I overhyped myself every day with Brawl. I was not even thinking about the gameplay, as I assumed it would play very similarly to Melee. The roster was all I cared about, then after it was ruined upon its Japanese release, my hype began to dwindle more and more as the launch date neared. I still tried to convince myself that it was going to be everything I hope and dreamed of (yes I dreamt of Brawl prior to release), and even though I spent the following 24 hours playing almost nonstop, it died quickly for me.

With Melee, I knew nothing about the game except the little information shown in screens in Nintendo Power at the time (like Bowser's and Peach's inclusion), so upon playing the game, it was like nothing before - not even SSB64. It was a totally new experience and everything was so updated and polished that it felt like a true masterpiece. Brawl felt far too based off of Melee despite its mechanical differences. Melee was like Pokémon Gold and Silver. It was the first sequel to the original and hence, added so many new things:
- new characters & stages
- adventure mode
- trophies
- stadium mode: break the targets, multi-man melee, home-run contest
- events
- all-star mode
Those that matter: all

What did Brawl add that was completely new?
- new characters & stages
- stage builder
- challenges
- stickers
- music
- masterpieces
Those that matter: only half

So comparitively, Melee introduced not only just as much, but far more important elements to the game than Brawl did.

Brawl was mostly hated because of how different it was from melee and 64. HG/SS on the other hand is still like G/S and other pokemon games.

Plus, very few people had any idea on how brawl would feel when you played it or how things like Subspace would turn out. In the case of HG/SS, we know almost exactly how it's going to be thanks to videos of people playing it and the fact that its a remake of a game that most people have already played.

I can see where your coming from about hype killing a game but I think brawl wasn't exactly the best thing to compare it too.

Everything about Brawl was ruined due to videos too.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Back in the days when we were younger and internet wasn't such a foul place where information is thrown in your face. I miss the days of not even knowing about a game's release. It's like Gold/Silver, heck, even Ruby. It was just there. I was going on vacation and needed a new game. Oh look a new pokemon game, Ruby. Seems cool, eh.
Heart Gold and Soul Silver will never compare to the FEEL the original first 2 generations gave you. I would trade anything to expierence the same feeling again

 

[Firus]

Brawl was mostly hated because of how different it was from melee and 64. HG/SS on the other hand is still like G/S and other pokemon games.

Plus, very few people had any idea on how brawl would feel when you played it or how things like Subspace would turn out. In the case of HG/SS, we know almost exactly how it's going to be thanks to videos of people playing it and the fact that its a remake of a game that most people have already played.

I can see where your coming from about hype killing a game but I think brawl wasn't exactly the best thing to compare it too.

It is mostly hated for being different from other games, but it's not the only reason. Hype did hurt the game a lot. And the fact that I had learned how to unlock every character and stage and did so in the first three days of owning it made the game get boring a lot faster, whereas I didn't get all of the characters in Melee for a year or so.

And, to be fair, we had a LOT of videos for Brawl. I know I did. I heard a lot of people on YouTube saying "Oh, the whole game is floaty, it's hard to describe" and I was like "lolwhatever". Yeah, we had the videos, we had the proof, but YOU CANNOT TRULY KNOW A GAME UNTIL YOU'VE PLAYED IT. I think that is essentially important and true...you just can't. I spent like, all of my free time looking up crap about Brawl the closer it got to release, and I still didn't know what it was going to be.

I think the hype isn't given as much credit as it deserves. Because, think about it; a lot of people even prefer Melee for casual play, despite the fact that Brawl is BUILT for it. It's not even necessarily that Brawl is so bad as a casual game, but people still got bored of it a lot faster and all. Think about it, if you hadn't known ANYTHING about Brawl beforehand and saw it on release date, said "Oh, a new Smash Bros." and picked it up, you would've had all of 20 minutes to think "I wonder how similar it will be to Melee?" instead of over time just developing an assumption that it would be because you learned so much about it.

And, those who do dislike vBrawl...they hacked Brawl, right? I myself hack Brawl, and the codes that expand the game not only allow me to fit the game more to how I thought it would be, but it's something I didn't even think about. I didn't hype it because I didn't know about it until it existed.

(Keep in mind that this is not making the assumption that Brawl is, to everyone, a bad game, nor is it making the assumption that everyone did exactly what I did, it's very hypothetical. Noooot trying to start a Melee vs. Brawl.)

I mean, I can sort of think about Diamond/Pearl, but to be honest, I don't feel like it was as much of a letdown. Sure I hyped it a lot and got pretty excited for it, and sure I think it's the worst generation of Pokémon yet, but it's not awful, and it was more in review after finishing the game that I realized it wasn't quite as good.

Though to be fair, Ruby was actually one of the first games I found out about before release date and once I figured out everything, hyped it to myself, but to this day I still think it's awesome. Granted, I took note of some pretty stupid things ("OMG RAFLECKSHUNS IN PUDDLEZ") but I wasn't disappointed. Still, though, I didn't hype it up that much nor did I ever get to the point where I thought about it every waking moment.

With Melee, I knew nothing about the game except the little information shown in screens in Nintendo Power at the time (like Bowser's and Peach's inclusion), so upon playing the game, it was like nothing before - not even SSB64. It was a totally new experience and everything was so updated and polished that it felt like a true masterpiece. Brawl felt far too based off of Melee despite its mechanical differences. Melee was like Pokémon Gold and Silver. It was the first sequel to the original and hence, added so many new things:
- new characters & stages
- adventure mode
- trophies
- stadium mode: break the targets, multi-man melee, home-run contest
- events
- all-star mode
Those that matter: all

What did Brawl add that was completely new?
- new characters & stages
- stage builder
- challenges
- stickers
- music
- masterpieces
Those that matter: only half

So comparitively, Melee introduced not only just as much, but far more important elements to the game than Brawl did.

Exactly; a game is virtually always better when it's a great game and you didn't even have a suspicion beforehand. It can still be good otherwise, but it's very rare that you know almost everything about a new game and aren't disappointed when you get it -- because you naturally think about all of the implications of everything, how it could be -- and then it turns out that limitations or something prevent it from being that.

Everything about Brawl was ruined due to videos too.

Agreed. There were videos that displayed a character's entire movesets, and then you not only knew vaguely what one might do, but EXACTLY what it looks like, and even the really minute moves like jabs, not even just specials.

 

[XACE-K]

Less talking about Brawl plz.

Wow, the safari zone is looking really amazing with so many pokemon and the customization option.

Agreed. The things they have included in HG/SS make me really want this game. Badly.

 

[Bowser King]

*POST*

I had a post written out but I have to agree with Xace in that we should stop talking about brawl.

All I'll say though is that it really depends on the person and how much you hype it.

Anyone have a rough idea for a team yet?

 

[Spire]

Firus and I were just talking about how comparing Pokemon to Brawl is a legitimate way of discussing the matter at hand. We're not talking about the specifics in Brawl, rather the impact that its hype had on us and how we may look back at Pokemon and place it in the same league.

 

[Bowser King]

Firus and I were just talking about how comparing Pokemon to Brawl is a legitimate way of discussing the matter at hand. We're not talking about the specifics in Brawl, rather the impact that its hype had on us and how we may look back at Pokemon and place it in the same league.

Yeah, I guess it was more about how the hype effected the game then the actual game itself.

 

[Mewter]

Ack, hype talk.

I agree that Pokemon should receive less hype. It's great when new games just pop up unexpectably and without any warning. It really seems to better meet your expectations, that way (Golden Sun for me at least) more so than if it's shown/revealed in advance (movies made from books).

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Well it's a remake of the legendary 2nd Gen, so I would see 2nd Gen fans hype talking about it.

I'm quite excited about it; but personally I don't think it will have the same feel as the original... For some reason the original had more of a Japanese feel, and I loved it.

 

[Firus]

While the second generation is still hailed today as being one of the best generations by many, there are also a lot of people who like 1st gen the best, and I know from my personal experience I found Fire Red/Leaf Green to be quite mediocre and they didn't capture the feeling of the original very well.

All I'm saying is, to anyone and everyone, don't be stupid about hyping it. And if you are and then complain about how lackluster the games are compared to how you thought they would be when you have them, and dislike them as a result, I will not hesitate to tell you how much it's your fault.

I mean, this is why I'm a pessimist. It's a lose/lose situation being optimistic about a game.

It's good: It likely only lives up to your expectations and is everything you hoped it would be. The experience then feels slightly above average because it's only about what you expected.

It's bad: You feel totally screwed over, the game sucks, even if it's only mediocre, because you were expecting so much more.

Whereas a pessimist:

It's good: You're shocked, stunned, it's so much more than you expected, therefore the game is awesome.

It's bad: You're likely not surprised, it's only as good as you thought it would be, and is slightly below average to you because it's only around what you were expecting.

/semi-rant
/hype-talk since it's probably getting annoying

 

[Stealth Raptor]

im easily pleased (hence why i still play brawl XD) so i dont mind getting optimistic about a game, though i tend to forget about them for large stretches of time unless i am reminded lol

 

[Spire]

All I know is that I'm going to have a full team of Slowpoke, Slowbro, and Slowking. I will beat the game with only those Pokemon (dumping starter as soon as I get one).

 

[Mewter]

All I know is that I'm going to have a full team of Slowpoke, Slowbro, and Slowking. I will beat the game with only those Pokemon (dumping starter as soon as I get one).

Great idea, Spire!
You made me want to play through the entire game with just Noctowl as my starter.
That would be fun!

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I'd want to try a complete run-through with Bellsprout.

/possible

 

[Firus]

I'll almost definitely do a single-Pokémon run at some point, but I feel like I should become familiar with the game first (though, I may start a single-Pokémon run on the version I don't use as my main one, since that's probably what'll happen at some point anyways).

Of course, I've already set a goal of re-beating the original Gold (since my last, about 99% complete file got accidentally deleted years ago) before the games come out, but I'm not sure how realistic that is given my current time constraints.

Anyone else trying to do anything like that?

 

[XACE-K]

I would try a single pokemon run-through if Pokemon had multiple save slots. Srsly, why hasn't Nintendo or Game Freak done this yet.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

cause you could trade pokemon, reload a previous save, save into the other slot, trade a pokemon, etc. ie copying

 

[Circa]

That and I'm not entirely sure if the cartridges themselves can handle that much memory. Iirc, the games are already kinda pushing it a bit to begin with.

 

[Wave⁂]

I'm not sure which save file type the actual DS uses, but the largest save files I've seen are 512K.