Hey, sorry about that. I was at a meeting, so I wasn't able to get on the computer till now.
anyway, if Bum Lets me, I'll go on to say about the rest of the views of the stages.
First, I'll do a recap on some of my posts
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The following stages should be Neutral
Battlefield
Isle Delfino
Final Destination (bad design...)
Smashvile
Lylat Cruise
Yoshi Story
Pokemon Statium1
Now, the following are the other stage
Bridge of Eldin
Verdict: Banned
Reason - It's too much of a campy stage. Not to mention characters like Ganon and Falcon have horrid recovery when there's a hole on the bridge. Oh yeah, stalls with Johns. >>
Spear Pillar
Verdict: Falcon Punch
Reason: Nuff said.
Sky world
Verdict debatable (i'm going counterpick)
Reason: You can kill by making your opponent bounce off the ceiling. It isn't hazorous, but destroying the floor could make some kind of difference as you could footstool someone through the cloud. the only question is if you can recover through the cloud.
Mushroomy Kingdom
Verdict - Banned
Reason : Well, nothing too much to say.Obstacles might get in the way or make for cheaper kills. Not to mention you might randomly switch to the underground stage, which has even more obstacles and possibly less killing options. Plus, it moves in one specific direction at a time.
Rumble Falls
Verdict - banned
Reason - similar thing. The stage is scrolling to one specific section instead of going up. I dunno, I just felt better if it's banned. Not much reason, really.
Mario Circut
Verdict - counterpick
Reason: It's not a hazard. I thought the walls at the bottom were walls, but they're blending in the background.I can see people trying to camp, but it wouldn't be that bad.I don't think the shy guys kill either. All and all, this seems to be a decent stage.
Luigi's mansion
verdict - counterpick
Reason - it's not the fact that it's a hazard, because there isn't none. The fact is that the stage 'shift' in a sense. when you fight on the stage, everything seems norma. when you destroy two of the top pillars, the stage is different. destroy the other two, even more different. players would have the option of getting rid of some of the platforms. The pillars themselves make great projectile shields.
Castle seige
verdict: counterpick
Reason: here's a convo of us talking about it
RockinTH (10:19:41 PM): looks slightly random to be used
Soak A Toe A (10:19:44 PM): Transition platform can used to chaingrab infinite.
RockinTH (10:20:02 PM): thesudden change of stages is kinda weird
Soak A Toe A (10:20:06 PM): Inside the castle you can camp from behind the statues and use them as a shield.
Soak A Toe A (10:20:10 PM): Yeah, and the randomness.
Soak A Toe A (10:20:31 PM): Also there are recovery issues.
Soak A Toe A (10:20:39 PM): I'd say maybe it can be used as a counterpick, but I doubt it.
Soak A Toe A (10:20:49 PM): Definitely not in doubles, though, I don't think.
Port Town
verdict - Banned
Reason: The cars can kill at low to mid percentage. That isn't good. Also, the platform that takes you to one destination to another is random, which can really make a difference. The Mute City always let you stop at the same exact place at the same time.I'm going with ban IMO
Frigiate Orphean
Verdict: counterpick
reason: There's two type of stages. Each one changes from one or the other in a flip, which is almost a blink of an eye. Anyone with decent recovery can make it back to the stage during the switch, so I don't see this ban worthy.
Green Hill Zone
Verdict- Banned
Reason: just like the bridge, only wider. so, more johns.
That's about it in terms of stages. as for weeklies and tourys, I think the weeklies should be 10 for singles and 5 for doubles. For touries, 10 or 15 dollars for singles and 5 dollars for doubles. we shouldn't be making this decision, since we don't really work with them lol
fee prices on weeklys n tournies- now weeklys to me is more of the training for ny or whoever else wants train with other people. since people can't go to other people house like that this is why we have weeklies which is like training/mini tournies. tournaments are the big things that pull in big amounts of people and thatz where the highlights, upsets and **** talking comes into play.
fee prices on both weeklys and tournies- this is completely up to ya. ya choose on what ya think would be good. the more money you pay to get in, the more you get if you win, but the worse you feel if you lose. think about it and tell me your reasons on what the price should be.
I feel the fee prices should be 10 for Weeklies in terms of singles (5 for doubles). It's the basic type of what we've been doing. Plus it leaves the winner(s) something decent.
Now, as far as tournaments. It should be EITHER 15 or 20 dollars for singles and 10 dollars for doubles. I reccommand 15 for singles because it's a tournament. Not a MAJOR toury like FC, Pound, MLG, etc. we gotta treat it like such.
crew monthlies- i especially would love to see crews battle it out. thatz the whole point of having a crew right? i came into melee a bit late so i didn't get to see crew battles really. i don't count the ones that were happening in web2zone cause they wasn't offical. now i wanna make them offical. when i say crew monthly, that day alone is cater only to crews to play since there are more crews in this game. people can spectate for 5 dollars and play whenever theres a free tv. this would also be rank and let people know what crew is king of ny.... even if they ain't from ny. the crew that wins will have the title of being king of ny for that month, if u do not come the next month, that title is lost and your rank will lower. i'm not sure how the rank system will work, i also wanna do the rank system for weeklys if not, for sure on tournies also.
the fee for crew monthlies- wat the price should be and how do people feel about this? do you think it's fair that we cater a whole day to crews and not letting any other event take place? to me crews take awhile. the fee for spectators is fair to me, but how do ya feel? let me know ya opinions.
This...I'm not sure. (considering I'm not in a crew.) You have to understand how many is in a crew and whatnot. each crew is like 5+ players. and with more going to NY, I'm not sure if W2z can handle that many at one time. If everyone feels it could be done, then it should be the first or the last of a sunday.
taking up tvs.. should you be penalize? the weekly that just past, we only had 4 setups and a lil bit of time. alot of people were doing money matches and friendlys in which i was getting upset kind of and i started to get dizzy and have a headache, cause people don't listen. me personally i would rather finish the weekly/tourney first, then let everyone play.
should there be penalties to the people that don't listen... if so what the penalty should be? i don't wanna be strict, but i remember that day acemarth got mad, now i know why. people have to listen. we're to easy on ya and it's good for ya, but the people running the weekly/tourney has a harder time and it seems like ya don't care. state your opinions on this matter.
If people won't listen, I suggest if people don't listen, you should give them penalty. If they don't listen the first time, give them a warning. The second time, REFUND their money ask them to leave, as they won't be allowed to spectate (unless ya want them to.) If they start something, but they played the first round or are in the loser's bracket, refund half of their money. If they act up, but have played the toury and lost, tell them to leave. NO refund.
now i don't think i should put this in... but i'm gonna do it anyway. now we know web2zone takes alot of money out the pot and gives us a somewhat of a bad time limit.
do ya feel we should do something about this? state your opinions and if u feel it's bad which most of ya will lol. state what should be done? should we should weeklys on a saturday for more time or sunday? what percentage of the pot should be taken out? state your opinions.
It should stay the way it is for the most part. The only thing that's a problem is that we're going over the limit. and once we learn TO listen, there shouldn't be a problem. Weeklys should stay as a friday and saturday should be toury-only.
do you think winning by percent cause time wasted or winning by having a stock more than your opponent? honestly i think that's corny to win by percentage, number one, even with 3 stocks this game takes to long and it just becomes a spamming game. i for one say be a man and fight. win by a stock over. state ya opinions on wat ya feel is good to have. plus we don't have time like that at the store for that non-sense.
Regardless, if the time runs out and no stocks or anything was lost, the match would move onto a 1 stock match (no time limit needed). The winner of that match wins the round/set
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whew....now that we got that out of the way....
I say Pictochat should be banned. Please. too much randomness and such.
Port town should also be banned. It's another Hyrule. there's gonna be stalls here and there and possible that people could do a 'hit and run' tactic.
Jungle Japes, Rainbow Cruise, and any other melee stages that were counter picks before should STILL stay as counterpicks. I think rainbow cruise is the only exceptional scroll because it's a circle of the scroll and it's not like it's in top speed. I dunno, since I havn't played it in Melee (wasted bans for my opponents), but I know there's a reason.
about Dedede's infinite - the best we can do is just ban stages where dedede can do infinits (or easier in a sense). if it comes up to a point where he does a infinit on a temporary wall (like Pokemon statium's rock or fire formation) then it should be legal because the wall would come down in some form. it's the other player's job to not be a ******* and get caught by it.
Halberd - it should definitly be a counter pick. the claw, cannon, and laser don't come out as quick. infact, it gives you signs that it's ready to fire, so ya should have time or at least kept an eye on it to know when to dodge.
