Zig-Zag!
Smash Lord
also, double post.
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Pikachu: A discussion
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I am going to secondary Pikachu.
watch out
watch out
soap
Smash Hero
i keep killing myself doing unneccesary upb tricks
-Chad-
Slackerator
I think Ice Climbers is a worse matchup than Sheik >_>
festizzio
Smash Champion
if they look cool then they aren't unnecessary
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i'd say they're about the same
both really really really gay
AXE 09
Smash Master
i'm gonna have to agree with you on this one
and all you guys are right, we should be a pika team as a whole! alright. n64 and zigzag, you guys represent at pound 4! are you going chad? if so, represent too!
and i'll represent at pat's house =D along with festizzio hopefully... right? i really hope to see you there lol. wait, who plans on going to any tourneys?
lol axis, we'll do rock paper scizzors to see who needs to change their name
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axe team with me at pats house double pika
wait when's pats house
wait when's pats house
AXE 09
Smash Master
i think it's like... november 15th or something like that? i can't really remember, but it's in mid november lol. i would team with you, but i'm actually already teaming with vman =D
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my feelings have now been damaged. *cry cry*
im not going to pat's house 8D
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Aight good****. Frame data is always nice lol. Was there a list or something?
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
Dude it comes out on frame 5? i was thought it was frame 6. I am a moron don't look at me. try jab if that doesn't work.
AXE 09
Smash Master
lol you're not even going to pat's house! darn you hahaha
gosh, i seriously don't knkow anything about frame data :/ i need to start studying that stuff lmao
N64
Smash Champion
I cp sheiks to corneria (if it's not banned) or FoD. Some people hate FoD though, so I could see stadium being alright. Stadium is a good pika stage in general.
Marths I just lose against regardless of CP. I usually take them to dreamland though, platform heights are less scary and you don't die to tipper fsmash every time you mess up your throw DI. Japes is also a legitimate option, marth doesn't like the river much and pika can quickattack everywheres!
I doubt i'm going to Pound4, and I definately can't make it to pat's house, sorry guys : /
Also I still think Marth is pika's worst matchup, personally. Get at me.
Marths I just lose against regardless of CP. I usually take them to dreamland though, platform heights are less scary and you don't die to tipper fsmash every time you mess up your throw DI. Japes is also a legitimate option, marth doesn't like the river much and pika can quickattack everywheres!
I doubt i'm going to Pound4, and I definately can't make it to pat's house, sorry guys : /
Also I still think Marth is pika's worst matchup, personally. Get at me.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
I think sheik still. marth needs edge gaurd gimps more(pika isn't easy to edge gaurd) than sheik and sheik and d-throw chain throw and another way other than just edge gaurd. But at least sheik is easier to hit and combo and edge gaurd.
Zig-Zag!
Smash Lord
I think we should all report into this thread when we enter a tourny, guys.
Marth sucks, but boy are there a lot of ways to kill him if you are smart. Shiek I feel is more of a crapshoot. I think you guys are a lot better at the matchup than I am. I would rather play 10 IC's before even 1 shiek, even if it isnt a great shiek. But we all know that by now.
Anyone else have trouble with docs? I don't think Ive ever lost to one in tourny, but for some reason they are extremely aggravating to play for me.
Marth sucks, but boy are there a lot of ways to kill him if you are smart. Shiek I feel is more of a crapshoot. I think you guys are a lot better at the matchup than I am. I would rather play 10 IC's before even 1 shiek, even if it isnt a great shiek. But we all know that by now.
Anyone else have trouble with docs? I don't think Ive ever lost to one in tourny, but for some reason they are extremely aggravating to play for me.
N64
Smash Champion
dogysamich's doc owned my pika. I was at like a 1/4 win ratio against him in friendlies this summer. Doc is tough : /
-Chad-
Slackerator
Dogy was giving me a really hard time when I played him at TO5 in friendlies. I think I lost more than I won against him.
AXE 09
Smash Master
*gasp* *refuses to believe that chad could ever lose*
dude, when i was at genesis, Bob$ and i had some epic Pika-Doc matches. his doc is so good omg!!! but i was somehow able to keep up... i think it was about a 50/50 for us lol
i'll admit though, both mario and doc are pretty annoying, but... somehow i don't mind it as much as i used to.
i'll admit, marth is a very hard matchup to me. it's hard to approach. sheik is very hard too
but for some reason... i still feel like jiggs is my worst matchup everrrrr
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
You have Fox for Puff though.
Skler
Smash Master
Don't you have Fox for every matchup then?
On a side note, I heard some rustling outside my window. Is that you N64?
On a side note, I heard some rustling outside my window. Is that you N64?
AXE 09
Smash Master
LMAO that MUST be N64 XD
haha and yes, i do use fox for puff, but my fox isn't that great. he's more specifically for puff and sometimes sheik if falco doesn't work
i use pika and falco mainly... rarely fox haha. falco's so fun! but pikachu's wayyyyy more epic
soap
Smash Hero
i saw u beat forward in a fox ditto
that was pretty legit
that was pretty legit
Fortress | Sveet
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i heard kels beat anther in pika dittos
N64
Smash Champion
i heard anther rarely plays melee these days.
Also shhh skler, that wasn't me. Now go back to sleep. Yes, good gooooood.
Also shhh skler, that wasn't me. Now go back to sleep. Yes, good gooooood.
AXE 09
Smash Master
LOL dude that was ********! his fox is like 10000x better than mine, i just got lucky with the chaingrabs and stuff haha. i was so desperate
N64, how come you never stalk ME when i'm in bed? *cries*
So lets all talk about how much Kirby ***** Pikachu
Here's a hint, it's not alot.
Edit: Me and N64 should start an MBR circle jerk in this thread so we can display our superiority.
Here's a hint, it's not alot.
Edit: Me and N64 should start an MBR circle jerk in this thread so we can display our superiority.
AXE 09
Smash Master
kinda weird fact for me:
pichu is actually one of my hardest matchups vs pikachu, wtf?
pichu is actually one of my hardest matchups vs pikachu, wtf?
Pichu is no one's hardest match up. Just shield alot and Usmash OoS since pichu can't attack without being 100% as close to you as possible.
N64
Smash Champion
Pink reaper and i are soooooooooooo cooooooooool. You guys wish you were this cool.
I have surprising trouble against kirbys. Bair is annoying. Utilt is annoying. At least he's like 90% sure of being dead once he's off the edge though.
And sorry AXE. My heart belongs to one low tier main at the moment. He is dreamy.
KJ64 can be ok against sheik, but probably not so much marth. Sheik loses some recovery options with the pass-through edges, but marth does not. Sheik can't cg you well there either. The main issue though is, the ceiling is way too high, so one of your primary kill methods is out.
I have surprising trouble against kirbys. Bair is annoying. Utilt is annoying. At least he's like 90% sure of being dead once he's off the edge though.
And sorry AXE. My heart belongs to one low tier main at the moment. He is dreamy.
KJ64 can be ok against sheik, but probably not so much marth. Sheik loses some recovery options with the pass-through edges, but marth does not. Sheik can't cg you well there either. The main issue though is, the ceiling is way too high, so one of your primary kill methods is out.
ihavespaceblondes
Smash Master
yo I'm really happy for you all and I'ma let you finish but I just wanted to say that Chad has one of the best Pikachus of all time.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Pichu is our Dan.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
**** guys, I wanna be cool 2.
While Im waiting for it to come in, How often do ppl miss the dthrow tech?
While Im waiting for it to come in, How often do ppl miss the dthrow tech?
Skler
Smash Master
I didn't know your name was Spaceballs West.
N64
Smash Champion
*stands still in shock, then slowly looks around and starts tearing up*
We're sooooooooooo much more awesome than everyone else aren't we N64. Even Ihavespaceballs, cus he has to resort to using a mid tier character to make it into the MBR
Kirby isn't that hard for Pikachu actually(well, mine is, but that's just cus I camp like a *****) and it's very easy to do things like Nair->Usmash on Kirby if you hit him with the weak hitbox.
Kirby isn't that hard for Pikachu actually(well, mine is, but that's just cus I camp like a *****) and it's very easy to do things like Nair->Usmash on Kirby if you hit him with the weak hitbox.
ihavespaceblondes
Smash Master
I didn't resort to using a mid tier to make it into the MBR, I resorted to living in a garbage region.
festizzio
Smash Champion
oh ho ho ho really now?
AXE 09
Smash Master
i'm gonna have to agree with IHSB and say that chad's pika is freakin ****-nasty!
you know what? i have trouble with kirby too. i think that i pretty much have trouble with all the small characters, like pichu, kirby, jiggs, even a pika ditto's hard
as far as the down throw tech thing.... i almost never down throw lol. but when i do sometimes on accident and stuff, they actually tech it pretty frequently. i guess people have fast reflexes?
you know what? i have trouble with kirby too. i think that i pretty much have trouble with all the small characters, like pichu, kirby, jiggs, even a pika ditto's hard
as far as the down throw tech thing.... i almost never down throw lol. but when i do sometimes on accident and stuff, they actually tech it pretty frequently. i guess people have fast reflexes?