Pika Q&A/FAQ Thread: Ask a Quick Question, Get a Quick Answer!

[*Cam*]

Do you mean can you grab them? You can if they aren't well spaced. Dair>D tilt, you can F tilt mk OoS if he delays his f tilt hits (I at least clash when he tries to f tilt->d tilt), SH-> Fair beats f tilt, and if you predict F tilt you can roll behind mk and punish.

No, I meant when I throw up my shield to block his ftilt/dtilt pressure, he punishes with a grab. It seems like once I throw up my shield, I'm doomed to get hit.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

It's a guessing game. Obviously your options are limited. You can basically keep shielding and predict the grab (Roll away or sidestep in that case). Or you could jump OOS in the gap, if you don't think he is going to do another f-tilt1 (If he finished the 3rd thing of F-tilt you get a free DASH U-smash OOS)

 

[BlueZebra]

Apparently there's a way to break out of grabs earlier...can someone tell me how?

 

[Pikabunz]

Mash buttons.

 

[BlueZebra]

I should rephrase that, there's apparently like a set order of buttons you can put in to break out REALLY early, earlier than just mashing random buttons.

...by the way, your avatar is awesome K Prime. =]

 

[Pikabunz]

Thanks, your avatar is awesome too.

You really just wanna hit as many different buttons as possible. The fastest method for me is setting taunts to jump and shield and just mash dpad and control stick with your left hand and mash A, B, and C-stick with your right. This method can get you a little over 1 input per frame which breaks you out on the first possible frame even at 50%.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i prefer buffering my mashes and getting out of grabs that way LOL

i use normal mashing but i do it so fast i insta break all grabs below thirty for the most part

 

[Pikabunz]

If you're playing against IC's and they're good with chain grabs, then any amount of mashing won't help even at 0%. But you should mash anyways as they might screw up.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

unless they get a standing grab, they are likely desynched sligtly and have to pause slightly to resynch to start, unless they are that good at buffering a throw and grabbing with nana to set it up. i havent seen any ics good with that yet

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Well if they mess up...you actually shouldn't be mashing becuase you might like...bair into the ground or something...

At 0%, it doesn't have to be a standing grab to start the CG, they can just D-throw you a few times and then turn it (Super easy against Pikachu)

 

[Stealth Raptor]

yeah ive learned only to mash at the beginning in case that happens LOL i have some replays on my wii i didnt upload from monday where my mashing got me killed and or regrabbed XD

 

[Ussi]

change jump to grab so you don't air release?

Or grab don't count for an input?

 

[Roller]

First you do an aerial forward smash. Then you combo into a Side-B and use a thunderwave. After that you should be able to volt tackle.

 

[Syko_Lemming]

Folks 'round here don' cotton to people talk'n of the tdacus. Anther is the last one that tried, and look what happened.

 

[YUNq PHR3$H]

What Is The Best Way To Approach With Pika?

EDIT: Another Problem I Have Is That Its Hard For My To Get Grabs Off.

 

[yoichX]

Is there an easier way to short hop and up tilt? Whenever i up tilt i jump instead and i'm having trouble short hopping

 

[Stealth Raptor]

its far easier to do both of those things with tap jump off and using the x or y button. i cant give you any help with tap jump on, i prefer it off :/

 

[ElNoNombreHombre]

Is there an easier way to short hop and up tilt? Whenever i up tilt i jump instead and i'm having trouble short hopping

Use the X or Y button to short hop. Trying to tap short hop has a very strange timing.

However, I suggest you keep tap jump ON and just spend a lot of time in training mode practicing (concentrate on not jamming the joystick up), as you get several benefits, such as:

1. You learn more fine-grained control of your movements and get some nice benefits from that (e.g. you'll accidentally smash less).
2. If you get spiked, you can "meteor cancel" (stop your downward momentum) by pushing jump, but if you push it too soon, you get penalized by having to wait longer before you can jump (which may lead to you losing a stock). Tap jump is for some reason immune to this penalty, so you can spam the crap outta it if you get spiked.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

having tap jump on or off is still a matter of preference and with decent tech skill neither one is superior. both have their ups and downs

 

[Pikabunz]

With tap jump off, you can approach with your shield tilted up which helps Pika quite a bit, imo.

 

[Leaf.]

Guys, Metaknight is reverse shuttle looping my QA as I recover.

How do I stop that?

 

[Metatitan]

It's really position dependent. Skull bash recovery can cause enough delay to avoid the shuttle loop.

 

[Pikabunz]

Be less predictable with it. Try recovering at different angles from different distances. There's so many different ways to recover with QA. MK can't cover all your options like he can with the rest of the cast.

 

[Hael Phael]

Is Usmash oos useful for us? I know Olimar mains use it like crazy but i was just wondering about ours, i don't know specifically how fast it is i just wondered if it's something i should integrate into my game, or will nair oos always be superior

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Ours is slower/has less range, but it is good for a close OOS punish when you don't want to grab. In most situations grab is better, but at higher %s U-smash is good too, just don't get overzealous because it is easily baited by attacking and retreating.

 

[Pikabunz]

Upsmash has more range than grab and nair. So yeah, you should use it especially at high percents.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I have to use it more, for some reason I never incorporated it, probably because of Samus's terrible U-smash in melee. Ugh, melee things influencing brawl things are annoying *sigh*

 

[Stealth Raptor]

makes me glad i completely dropped all previous smash games to prevent that exact thing. ive always been incredibly weak to cross-using moves and techs from other games. like trying to spot dodge in smash sixty four.......

 

[KayLo!]

I played 64 a couple months ago, and it was.... hilariously bad lmao. I kept trying to do just about everything you couldn't do back then. (ono)

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Is that supposed to be a smiley of a guy with a big nose?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

its a smiley from the xat. perhaps if you came more often you would know :D

 

[KayLo!]

Is that supposed to be a smiley of a guy with a big nose?

What Stealth said. It's this:

lol.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

If I went into the Xat nobody would be there.

 

[Tagxy]

You just have to go at not bad times. Theres a lot of ppl there now.

Also I play 64 now.

 

[Pikabunz]

ESAM, why do you like jab so much? It almost never trips for me! All jab does for me is get me fsmashed.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I get good jabs lol. It trips a lot, and I'm really lucky when I'm rapid jabbing. Also, it is a fast interrupter for off-stage.

I swear it has a better trip rate if you hit with where Pikachu's eyes are. I swear to ****ing god.

 

[KayLo!]

I swear it has a better trip rate if you hit with where Pikachu's eyes are. I swear to ****ing god.

I feel like Thunder's shockwave lingers longer if you hold B while the bolt comes down.

Isn't it nice to fool yourself? =P

 

[Stealth Raptor]

I get good jabs lol. It trips a lot, and I'm really lucky when I'm rapid jabbing. Also, it is a fast interrupter for off-stage.

I swear it has a better trip rate if you hit with where Pikachu's eyes are. I swear to ****ing god.

this is so true. i get two jab to usmash combos in my last batch of vids i uploaded. ESAM knows ;o and i learned this myself before ESAM ever commented on it

 

[Tagxy]

lol, you have to practice with jab to be good at it. People think I get jab trips more then I should too, but I spent a decent amount of time in training mode messing with jab. Of course in the process I also came up with some super secret jab rules of thumb

 

[Stealth Raptor]

beyond jabbing to trip, i also space a single jab to mess up peoples approaches, it interrupts what they were going to do and causes them to stand there. its also decent at knocking olimar when hes trying to grab you