PGD: Happy Birthday, Red!

[~automatic]

A bunch of songs had a cool remixes tbh.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

But if they were notable, don't you think I would have heard them by now?

 

[~automatic]

You have the Apex CD. I think your judgment on this matter is invalid.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

I got it for free, though, I swear.

 

[~Radiance~]

yea i actually think I like a good amount of touhou songs, i just was being catty.

also, I just beat lightning returns and I have to say that while the series is hated on a lot, it had a really emotional ending and I felt like it was really good.

 

[Angiance]

Everybody has their own taste in music though, I think quite a few Touhou tracks are very magical sounding ^ . ^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPTOQd9E6gE

As for the thing with FFXIII, it's because many people don't want to
let go of their childhood; if something feels too new (not nostalgiac), they realize their age and get upset

 

[Phoenix Lord']

Oh, is that it? I always thought it at least had something to do with the "game" being far too linear for most people's tastes, but I guess your sweeping generalization could be true too.

 

[Angiance]

Ya see, people will find ONE FLAW and TRASH the entire game for it...What about the beautiful music? What about the epic boss battles? What about the voice acting? What about the atmospheric environments? What about the sharp graphics? Yeesh, I'm a very pessimistic person too, but damn, at least TRY to balance positive and negative

*breath*

 

[ぱみゅ]

Well, when you consider a game is about playing it and they're pretty much getting rid of that part....

 

[Angiance]

Grrrrrr...so apart of thoroughly enjoying a videogame isn't music, or being brought into the atmosphere? It's just about pressing buttons, no?

 

[Phoenix Lord']

If I wanna watch a movie I'll play Metal Gear, not Final Fantasy.

 

[Angiance]

FINAL FANTASY IS GENERALLY PLAYED FOR STORY SMART ARSE

 

[ぱみゅ]

Then I'll just watch it on Youtube.
As long as Square doesn't take the videos down....

 

[Angiance]

You mean "Square Enix"

 

[Phoenix Lord']

 

[~Radiance~]

It depends on the angle you come in for. Personally I play RPG's for the story and the combat being good is just a bonus. I really enjoy games that focus on the story more than the combat, since in the end I remember the moments that dragged me in and made me feel rather than the way a game played. Thats just my preference though, Im a sad sappy sucker for stories.

 

[Angiance]

I'm pretty sure that at any moment in a videogame where the player is forced to >stop playing< and read a large amount of texts could be qualified as what you call "movie watching."

Given that, ALL Final Fantasy games are just "movies"

 

[~Radiance~]

golden sun is essentialy like that, but it had a great story. Idk, i feel like a lot of games these days people dont want to read or listen, they just want to play

 

[Phantom Gamer]

For me, I like RPGs that have good and fun gameplay as well as a story that's compelling to me.

I'm pretty sure that at any moment in a videogame where the player is forced to >stop playing< and read a large amount of texts could be qualified as what you call "movie watching."

I'd more likely call that "reading a book" rather than "movie watching" if it's reading lots of text.

 

[ぱみゅ]

imo, is not about just playing or pressing buttons, or wanting to skip a cinematic.
But when 70% of the time you're being bombed with story, you get not too much room to explore or make things the way YOU want them to be, you feel like you've been railroaded into the ending, rather than finding one yourself.

I mean, COME ON! We have technologies to have like 50 endings, I'd rather have that many possible ways to finish a game than fancy CG Graphics.

 

[Angiance]

Right, right...well that goes back to what I said, an RPG (in my experience) revolves around story ...anybody that doesn't want story, just play Mario, or Megaman 1

 

[~Radiance~]

Kyo if the non linearity of a game is what you may not have liked about XIII i suggest looking at lightning returns even if briefly so. Its a very open game and is, for all intents and purposes, a completley different experience when compared to XIII and XIII-2. I hated 13 at first btw, but it grew on me. LR is really much better overall imo

 

[Angiance]

Need to look that game up actually

Any music composers in here?

 

[Ussi]

I like RPGs cause that's the style of gameplay i like. And gameplay is everything to me, i play with bgm set to 0 and skim the text blobs to get on with the game.


Also golden sun is a bad game with a bad story. It just looks pretty and feels cool. But the mechanics of golden sun are really bad... Summon rush bosses, massing A wins battles as psyerngy becomes useless outside of healing, especially in the 2nd GS where all you wanted was crit armor and 1 of the 3 weapons that did massive damage with weapon unleashes. The only thing fun was exploring with psyerngy... Which is completely dumbed down in dark dawn cause of insight -_-;;


When i realized that when doing link battles, i had to come up with a list of banned tactics with my friend:

1. Cannot use flash
2. Cannot alrernate granite and shade every turn
3. No summon rush
4. Only 3 of each item
Probably had other rules but forgot.

Made me realized how broken the game is lol

 

[KayLo!]

And gameplay is everything to me, i play with bgm set to 0 and skim the text blobs to get on with the game.

I skimmed pretty much everything on this page since you all seem like reasonable RPG-loving people (esp Lawrence: fellow storyline addict), but then I read this.

Like, what? Gameplay is super important too, but how can you ignore such a big part of what makes up a genre like RPG? It's called a role-playing game for a reason. You're supposed to feel immersed in that world, like you are the main character or at least can empathize with them. What you're basically saying is that you only like to press buttons and kill things. Which is fine, your prerogative and whatnot, but it seems silly to play a genre where you ignore like 50% of what makes the game what it is.

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On a related note: KH Days is MUCH better on the 1.5 remix as pure cinematics. The story was fantastic, but it was literally the game's only redeeming quality. Gameplay was garbs. (Feel the same way about Recoded on 2.5.)

 

[Angiance]

Wow, nobody has ever said anything bad about GS. Personally, it's one of my favorite RPGs *shrugs*

Zero music composers in here? I'd like someone to work with...

 

[Scatz]

Personally, I never cared about GS, but I never thought about playing it either.

My tastes in games fly all over the place in each genre, but the one thing that has been consistent throughout each game I play is that I have to play with one that has a sensible amount of difficulty. There are a few exceptions, but I feel myself rushing through the game when it's easy.

I don't really feel too immersed in a game until tension rises to a upcoming fight, but I also typically leave immersion to other games that allow modding (PC Skyrim) or games that can truly encompass the slower portion of gameplay (Walking Dead).

Tales of Symphonia & Abyss definitely made me enjoy RPGs a ton as they encompassed everything I could ask for without a huge emphasis in graphics.

 

[Angiance]

Tales of Symphonia? Ever play Tales of Phantasia? The encounter rate in that game is FFFFFREAKING amazing; 2 steps, battle; 3 steps battle; no steps, battle; battle ends, battle; just amazing.

 

[PZ]

I haven't played a true RPG since the days of the first and second playstation. I always liked the music though even in these newer games where I don't care for the scenes. I guess I only play games for the action or gameplay nowadays (monster hunter, borderlands 2, dark souls, etc.).

I HAVE to watch Gintama some time but after catching up back in One Piece I am just done watching long animes.

 

[Scatz]

I can't play 2-D games like Symphonia anymore. After playing ToAbyss, I can't go back to that kind of gameplay.

 

[KayLo!]

The one genre I just can't do is platformers. I mean I played some Mario, one Sonic game, and like 2 Kirby games, but they never really appealed to me.

Exception: Captain Claw was my **** back in the day. The Katherine boss fight will forever be one of my favorites. "So..... so..... pretty."

 

[Scatz]

Don't ask why. I was a kid then and just played anything that wasn't horror games.

 

[Geoberos]

I was only 5 when my second memorable (cause SMW was still technically my first) first passionate game was FF2 (US) for the SNES. I had no idea what the hell kind of story is happening nor did I cared why. I just looked for "Go Here", "Find This", "Kill Person", "Save Person". Then I spend hours exploring the over world for off path areas and secrets. This continues on to FF3 (US), FF7~10. Then that's where I jumped on that hatewagon. I still didn't really care for the story but I sure hell love JRPGs, but with the lack of over world and more forced onto a path ruined that part of the experience, but i still enjoyed the other aspects of a JRPG.

When GBA emulators came about, I replayed FF4 and FF6 and actually understood story and adult concepts (assuming now also fixed localization in the GBA versions).
I've seen friends play FF13 and the way layouts are similar to FF10's still bothers me but it shouldn't be a big deal at this point.

Prime's got me streaming a JRPG I have never played before Lufia 2 for the SNES and since I haven't played Lufia 1, a part of me kinda doesn't care for the story. But I'm back to loving the fact of killing every visible enemy for experience and gold, exploring every nooks and crannies of dungeons, towns, and over world for secrets, and organizing items and spells.

And damn, Mischief Makers, fun and somewhat frustratingly challenging platformer to 100%. Spent a lot of time on it when I wasn't on StarFox 64 or Gauntlet Legends.

 

[Phantom Gamer]

The one genre I just can't do is platformers. I mean I played some Mario, one Sonic game, and like 2 Kirby games, but they never really appealed to me.

Exception: Captain Claw was my **** back in the day. The Katherine boss fight will forever be one of my favorites. "So..... so..... pretty."

That Katherine battle was kinda hilarious with the bombardment of cartoony sound effects specially that forward flip sound effect.

 

[Ussi]

I skimmed pretty much everything on this page since you all seem like reasonable RPG-loving people (esp Lawrence: fellow storyline addict), but then I read this.

Like, what? Gameplay is super important too, but how can you ignore such a big part of what makes up a genre like RPG? It's called a role-playing game for a reason. You're supposed to feel immersed in that world, like you are the main character or at least can empathize with them. What you're basically saying is that you only like to press buttons and kill things. Which is fine, your prerogative and whatnot, but it seems silly to play a genre where you ignore like 50% of what makes the game what it is.

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Its not like i'm ignoring the story, i'm just skimming it to get a general gist of it. There are some RPGs though that i actually like the story of that I end up taking my time with it (Xenoblade) but once i've played a game through i tend to skip scenes frequently on 2nd+ playthroughs. Its just a lot of times the story is predictable.

 

[Angiance]

We all like RPGs; what's everybody's favorite? Mine is Final Fantasy VI

 

[Ussi]

Fire Emblem 9 and 10

 

[ぱみゅ]

Lunar, Lunar 2, Rhapsody,
All for PSX.
Good times.

 

[~automatic]

Golden Sun, SMT4 and the GBA Fire Emblems.

 

[Angiance]

Final Fantasy VI is the best thing ever because of amazing MUSIC, story, and alot of awesomness