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[[FBC] ESAM]

whoops, didn't mean to double post...

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

it has to be buffered during jumpsquat, so basically, the second pikachu leaves the ground he has already started footstooling (i.e., there's never a jump animation).

when i do it in frame advance, it doesn't get close enough to footstool. when i do it at full speed, it works. MAGIC.

it's also very close, has to be either the frame before he can jump or the same frame (your footstool basically happens on the same frame he could act). I know that because AFTER i recorded it, i went back and watched it at 60 fps slowed down frame by frame.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

That's noot that hard, jumping twice in 5 frames. Especially if you change L to jump

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Timing's pretty tough too. But I'd love it if someone could get it down!

I should mention that so far I have only been able to get this to work on Meta Knight. Tall/fat characters land before they can act, and anyone lighter than MK can DI the throw (I think). It does not work on Diddy Kong, either, which was my next guess.

 

[KayLo!]

That's noot that hard, jumping twice in 5 frames. Especially if you change L to jump

Your L should be jump anyway.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Z as jump is better.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Why should L be jump anyway?

 

[KayLo!]

Because the cool kids have always used L jump.

 

[~automatic]

No love for left on the D-Pad jump?

 

[Ussi]

Because the cool kids have always used L jump.

Since 2008

 

[KayLo!]

No love for left on the D-Pad jump?

Ew wtf is that.

Since 2008

Heeeeeell yeah.

 

[~automatic]

I'm guessing none of you grab with A then.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

~auto, are you even playing the same game?

 

[Pikabunz]

it has to be buffered during jumpsquat, so basically, the second pikachu leaves the ground he has already started footstooling (i.e., there's never a jump animation).

when i do it in frame advance, it doesn't get close enough to footstool. when i do it at full speed, it works. MAGIC.

it's also very close, has to be either the frame before he can jump or the same frame (your footstool basically happens on the same frame he could act). I know that because AFTER i recorded it, i went back and watched it at 60 fps slowed down frame by frame.

I know to buffer a footstool from the ground you have to input 3 jumps during the buffer frames. Pikachu's jumpsquat is only 4 frames so it should be impossible for him buffer a footstool unless he's doing the buffering at the end of another move.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

...Interesting.

That might explain why I couldn't do it in frame advance.

 

[infiniteV115]

Pikachu's jumpsquat is 4 frames?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Yes, basically what I would do is

jump input
uncheck jump input - f1
jump input - f2
uncheck jump input - f3
jump input -f4

First jump input is the frame before, so "frame 0"

 

[Pikabunz]

Pikachu's jumpsquat is 4 frames?

Wow, all those are like 1 frame higher than it should be.

Yes, basically what I would do is

jump input
uncheck jump input - f1
jump input - f2
uncheck jump input - f3
jump input -f4

First jump input is the frame before, so "frame 0"

The way buffering reads it is like this:

f1 - jump
f2 - nothing
f3 - jump
f4 - nothing

There's only 4 frames to work with. There's no frame 0.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

But ZSS' is definitely 5

Um, if you input jump, js doesn't start until the next frame o_O At least that's how it has worked for me.

It is possible that in real time, I'm buffering the initial jump.

 

[Pikabunz]

I think you're just counting frames in a weird way. If you're using frame advance and you hold jump and press Z, that next frame counts as having a jump input and that's where you start counting from. That's how it works with ZSS' jab, right? And we consider her jab a 1 frame move not 2.

 

[KayLo!]

I'm guessing none of you grab with A then.

Nope. You grab with Y.

 

[Scatz]

Yeah... Mine's isn't even the norm lol. Moreso made for Yoshi, but it workz with every other character I play.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Input for jump frame 0
start jump frame 1
buffer jump on frame 2
nothing frame 3
buffer jump frame 4

 

[Pikabunz]

There's only 4 frames tho. Even if there were 5, there's no way you can input 3 jumps in 5 frames in real time.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

But the video is right there, I have actually done it. Are you suggesting the technique is done a different way?

 

[Phoenix Lord']

Nope. You grab with Y.

Nope. You jump with Y, you grab with X.

 

[Pikabunz]

But the video is right there, I have actually done it. Are you suggesting the technique is done a different way?

The video doesn't show proof that you buffered a footstool nor does it show proof that Metaknight can't avoid it. To me, it looks like Metaknight can avoid every one of those footstools with any move.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yeah, that looks really...not anything.

 

[Pikabunz]

SFP, what are you even doing to "buffer footstool" during the jumpsquat? Are you just mashing the jump button?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

dash, mash jump like crazy.

 

[~automatic]

Happy HAlloween yo!

 

[since]

Happy nightmare night guys

 

[Phoenix Lord']

I don't celebrate Nightmare Night, I'm not a pagan pony.

 

[since]

WELL HAVE A GOOD ONE ANYWAYS.
Nightmare Night is the best...

 

[SupaSairentoZ7℠]

The boat is definitely no place to have Halloween...

 

[Cherished Doll]

My first Halloween in Texas was hella fun!
Def not expected :x haha
^_^

 

[~automatic]

Some person was serving watered down Manhattans and calling them Sandys last night, lol.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Oh god, I love it.

 

[Geoberos]

All the baby-boom teenagers are now moved out for college and thus there was a lack of 'treaters that I actually considered two unopened candy bags and a half is a personal haul already.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

What if you had 3 seperate jump buttons and pressed them all essentially at the same time