Peach Tactical GD

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Ok guys so a friend of mine (offline :D) has recently picked up Pit and I've been trying to show him the ropes of Brawl and he's picking them up pretty well. The trouble is, neither of us know very many specifics about Pit since I only use Peach and Pit is nothing like Peach, so I just need a few questions answering to help me fight Pit so that I can use them and also point them out to my friend so he's aware of them. Atm I win because I've been playing Brawl a lot longer but when things start to even out, I'd like to know various methods that are good against Pit and it'd be nice for me to point out specific things for both of us to work on

- Is it better to use Peach's Fair or Bair? Fair outranges his aerials but the problem is that his aerials are faster. I've been using Bair like I would use it vs Marth, using it to punish his aerials or hit him before he gets an aerial in/use against his F Smash as a punisher

- What do you do if Pit constantly runs away and uses multiple jumps/gliding? I've mainly being throwing Turnips up in the air to mess with his jumping and gliding stuff

- More Turnips or less Turnips, which is better? When should the Turnips be used?

- Are SH Dairs good or bad? I'm trying to teach him how to DI out of Dair. Its something he hasn't got round to but he knows to use an aerial to stop me when I go for a Dair so this isn't a major issue

Pit info would be very much appreciated from those who have experience cause I want to get better and I'd like my friend to get better aswell, since if we both get better, we'll get even better faster xD Thanks in advance

 

[Corrupted]

You know how peach has trouble killing OoS at mid range?

Shield drop -> buffered dash to nair. Its a full 6 frames faster than fair and nair tends to be less stale.

 

[Corrupted]

double post bump

We joke about insta shield break with MrSaturn but couldn't there be a way to actually do this while staying fast and safe? Glide toss ground float nair dash attack maybe? These attacks don't poke so should work right?

 

[Meru.]

You know how peach has trouble killing OoS at mid range?

Shield drop -> buffered dash to nair. Its a full 6 frames faster than fair and nair tends to be less stale.

Oooh, gotta test this.

And ehh... I dont get MrSaturns very often ;d. I get more stitchies. <3 Stitchies.

 

[Corrupted]

stitch -> ground float nair is a shield combo and dash attack will finish of the job is they dont react fast enough!

 

[Meru.]

Wooow really? ;o I'm going to abuse that. Can you also jab instead of Dash Attack?

 

[deepseadiva]

What's our best choice of action when we DO get that shield break? I'd go for usmash, but a lot of characters are too short and stubby to get hit by the good hitboxes.

Same deal when we would get a Final Smash?

(Right next to opponent) Up thrown turnip -> Roll behind -> Charge Fsmash -> Turnip falls and hits -> Release fsmash

 

[Metatitan]

Your best option is to pluck a normal knockback turnip, go to one side of them and strong throw up.

Short hop to the other side of them and charge up smash. The turnip will knock them into your direction and into the strong part of your up smash.

Or you can be Kyon and Dair them instead...

 

[Javix]

I'm the best Peach in the Midwest.

 

[Silly Kyle]

I'm the best Peach in the Southwest! Take that Meno!

 

[deepseadiva]

What about Light?

Also: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

 

[Silly Kyle]

I would destroy you in Peach dittos, Manny!

And Light is the best for Melee, I'm the best for Brawl.

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

I feel like i havent seen silly kyle enough

 

[Metatitan]

I would destroy you in Peach dittos, Manny!

And Light is the best for Melee, I'm the best for Brawl.

Raz and an inactive Edrees would like to say hello

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Your best option is to pluck a normal knockback turnip, go to one side of them and strong throw up.

Short hop to the other side of them and charge up smash. The turnip will knock them into your direction and into the strong part of your up smash.

Or you can be Kyon and Dair them instead...

I just noticed this.... =( to be honest short hop dair to dash attack looked like it would work...... don't remind me that im bad

 

[Chuee]

Couldn't find anywhere else to post this =/
Anways Lucas' are discussing Peach.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246877&page=39

 

[Roxas215]

Hey so me and my crewmate are trying out peach/wario as a team. Any tips or anything on how this team is suppose to work? What role is peach suppose to play? Any team tactics that works with these 2? Thanks in advance.

 

[Praxis]

I tried this out for the first time with an unranked WeWA player (Toobusytocare) this last Saturday. I was rather impressed. I just told him "Space to stay alive" and we did really well. Took a game off the best static team in WA.

You should both play really gay and campy and exploit openings. Both characters are excellent 2v1 characters with the ability to move in and punish small openings very strongly. Between the two of them...it just works.

Fiction and Sky won doubles at a major regional a long time ago, too, if that tells you anything.

 

[Roxas215]

Thanks Praxis. Yea before i even came here we both agree to just camp our *** off and create openings. Both chars can space and camp extremely well but both has the moveset to go aggressive when a opening comes. My crew is practicing this thurs and one more next week before the april 10th tournament. Hopefully we do well

Any other tips from anyone else with this team?

Edit is it possible for me to free tunrip pull(Or whatever it's called when u pull a turnip from running off the ledge) Without bsticking?? My only changes to my controls are tap jump off and x to grab.

 

[Praxis]

Yeah, it's really easy actually. You have to be in a full run, not dash startup. Just input the down-B right as you cross the ledge, then press forward right after inputting down-B.

 

[Roxas215]

Thanks again Praxis! Will practice this tonight!

 

[White-Peach]

Yeah, it's really easy actually. You have to be in a full run, not dash startup. Just input the down-B right as you cross the ledge, then press forward right after inputting down-B.

You can also boneSLIDE the pull to accomplish the ledgepulls in smaller spaces x) I tend to do that just out of habit.

 

[Roxas215]

How do u boneslide???(Lol im such a peach noob)

 

[White-Peach]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=245948&highlight=bonewalk

 

[Praxis]

Bonewalking is hard though lol

 

[deepseadiva]

oh hai gaiz

 

[White-Peach]

Bonewalking is hard though lol

If I can learn it, so can you~

 

[Dark.Pch]

I got bone walking down packed. it's actually quite easy. All I do is use my eyes. The same method I use to getthe max distance with the Dtilt slide.

 

[Razmakazi]

I have controller johns. Mine won't rly dash well sometimes but I'll get a new one soon. I'm pretty sure I'm good at bonewalking.

 

[Silly Kyle]

I'm pretty decent at bonewalking I'm trying to incorporate more of Peach's dtilt slide too.

 

[deepseadiva]

Bonewalking is hard

I got bone walking down packed. it's actually quite easy. All I do is use my eyes.

I have controller johns. I'm pretty sure I'm good at bonewalking.

I'm pretty decent at bonewalking

This AT name is amazing.

 

[Razmakazi]

i'm the one who first named it bonewalking b/c all you gay peaches tried to give it horribly suggestive names like Bone Sliiiiiiiiiding (that's a shot at you Meno!).

 

[Battletanx_Commander]

[color=#focb29]I still consider it Free Turnip Pulling. :V Whether B-sticking or not, it is still the same inputs on the controller.[/color]

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Picked up peach 8D

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Welcome to the best character ever without kill power! ...... unless your very good at upsmash

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Guys, I really need some stuff on the Snake match up. I find it odd that the 2nd best character in the game is almost never discussed when he's potentially such a thread due to his popular use. I'm having real difficult re writing it cause I don't have enough up to date stuff

Gogogogo please

This goes for Falco as well, there never seems to be a clear cut desicion on this guy
Infact, any character stuff would be nice

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Guys, I really need some stuff on the Snake match up. I find it odd that the 2nd best character in the game is almost never discussed when he's potentially such a thread due to his popular use. I'm having real difficult re writing it cause I don't have enough up to date stuff

Gogogogo please

This goes for Falco as well, there never seems to be a clear cut desicion on this guy
Infact, any character stuff would be nice

I agree... I lost to snake more than i do to mk.... However i dont have much to say on this match up cause i know so little... nades are very dumb...

 

[Dark.Pch]

I would help out but I am seriously not in the mood to get into it with the WC. I'm really am not. So I am staying out of all of these topics. Letthem do all the talking and take advice from them. I'm not needed.

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

I would help out but I am seriously not in the mood to get into it with the WC. I'm really am not. So I am staying out of all of these topics. Letthem do all the talking and take advice from them. I'm not needed.

I think the last 2 sentences weren't necessary.......

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Look, absolutely anything match up related would be helpful to be blunt. I'm throwing Snake out because unlike MK he's almost never ever discussed despite the fact you're likely to run into some at any decent tourney. In some respect, I'd argue he's more dangerous than MK in some respects