Official Texas Power Rankings! - Updated June 15, 2012

[Infinitysmash]

So, like, how come I still went down even though I'm pretty sure I K valued Denti this weekend? I don't feel like my current placing is an accurate representation of my skill level. Like, I really feel that I should be surfing around the 1840s right now.

 

[UTDZac]

I couldn't tell you cause I don't have the tio file data to look at. If you can get Xyro to send me the tio files since aug 9th that you've been in.

 

[Xyro77]

Events with less than 18 entrants are considered "small" events and thus don't count as much.

 

[UTDZac]

Events with less than 18 entrants are considered "small" events and thus don't count as much.

This isn't a good requirement to go by. An event with 10 players and 6 of them are in our top 10, then it should be a normal K value size.

Just saying.

 

[Infinitysmash]

Events with less than 18 entrants are considered "small" events and thus don't count as much.

wtf when did we start that? That's kind of ****ty, yo =/

I'm sorry, but me taking a set off of Denti should count the same whether it's an 8 man bracket or a 50 man bracket.

 

[Player-4]

This isn't a good requirement to go by. An event with 10 players and 6 of them are in our top 10, then it should be a normal K value size.

Just saying.

This

wtf when did we start that? That's kind of ****ty, yo =/

I'm sorry, but me taking a set off of Denti should count the same whether it's an 8 man bracket or a 50 man bracket.

And this


I'd be pissed if I beat Trela/Razer/Gnes at one of Sync's tourneys and it not count for **** just because it wasn't a Hobo, it's the same player regardless of the number of entrants.

 

[Sync.]

Good job to Slush for C tier and Leaf for finally almost getting out of F-tier (I told you).

Keep going guys and Pwii will be high up there soon!

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Great job to Slush for making it to C-Tier!

 

[Zigsta]

Congrats to ALSM for the big jump!

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

if you aren't top 10 PR placement don't mean ****.

 

[z00ted]

^sal t

 

[Infinitysmash]

if you aren't top 10 PR placement don't mean ****.

I used to be 3rd, homie

 

[z00ted]

Congrats to ALSM, Slush, and Leaf for taking big leaps.

leaps

leaps

leaps

leaps

Brb, killing myself.

 

[Infinitysmash]

Congrats to ALSM, Slush, and Leaf for taking big leaps.

+1 for this to all three of them. Keep it up guys!

 

[Gnes]

Can't wait till I can rock that retired swag after Apex

 

[Nike.]

Why wait?
Everyone else besides RoyR/Ozz rocks it anyway, while still entering tournies.

 

[Zano]

I need to get to a tourney already, lol

 

[Paw]

soooooooooooon

 

[Leaf.]

Less than one point.





















fml

 

[PantyRaider08]

Yay! Back in C tier!

Congrats to Slush for making it to C tier and Skypirate almost getting an icon next to his name! : )

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

when do i get to be better?

o wait

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pj tho


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afk





is going to sync's now k bye

 

[Reizilla]

Leaf is king of F-tier.

 

[Leaf.]

BOW DOWN TO ME!

I'll be out in one more tournament...

 

[Reizilla]

Diego tho

Sky pirate =/= skypirate?

 

[Sinister Slush]

Leaf is king of f-tier.

Leaf is king of f-tier.

Leaf. is king of f-tier.

Literally 1 point (Or .62) until E-tier. Not sure why I laughed so hard at the almost huge accomplishment but good job Leaf. And thank you to the others who actually notices a Yoshi doing kinda decent.

Oh right, Tesh is also in C-tier. Just noticed.

 

[Tesh]

@ all that stuff about "small" tournaments.
That was EXACTLY what I was complaining about loser's bracket. A perfect recent example is that full 64 man bracket with only like 12 real players. Why should that count more than a 14 man tournament in Houston with 3 of the top 5 in the state?

Beating someone should really count the same regardless of when or where or how it happens. Especially if you are going to count things like MK banned tournaments on the same PR. If I beat Trela, Gnes, Razer, Dojo, Espy, Kprime etc. in loser's bracket, I still worked my *** off for it and deserve the points. Its just silly to get less points because a bracket is bigger or smaller or whatever. Its not how you place, its who you beat.

@ Slush, we should retire eh? Good thing I beat Bio in winner's bracket. Neither of us would have tried as hard in loser's.

Then again, looks like the retired players are still moving up. I shouldn't stop until people are least know who I use.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Tesh, I would agree with you but there is actually a difference between a big bracket and small bracket in that case. Some of the biggest upsets happen in small *** tournaments. Its just in the psychology of competitive gaming...most players try their best at big tournaments. Some players do it consciously, some players its just a subconscious thing. Cause there's more pressure at bigger tournaments, and being able to play under pressure is demonstration of skill, and skill is what we are trying to gauge on this here PR.

 

[Tesh]

^ in that case, the points should be based on what prize was on the line. Obviously there is less pressure in a 100 man tournament if first prize is a 25$ burger king gift card compared to a 50 man tournament with a 1000$ pot.

Not to mention there is ALOT more pressure in loser's bracket, because if you lose you are done. I have seen/heard/experienced people sandbagging in winner's bracket and then going serious in loser's because its the last chance.

I honestly don't think those could both be good reasons to cut down points.

 

[Reizilla]

And where is the line drawn between a tournament big enough to try at and one that's small enough to sandbag?

If a player can "not enter an MK banned tourney if they don't want to lose points," the same should hold true for a small tournament.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

dude, whens the last time you've seen a 100 man tournament with a gift card reward or something of that nature.
Yeah, stuff like QuakeCon and other stupid **** where a lot of people forfeited and didn't take seriously, where like half the entrants are random *** people who enter as John Stafford or Abdul E. Rahmen IV, like literally entering with their real names. or if its at a con where people enter as like Cloudstrifehero777 and cutechocobopieXX and ****... hope you get my point

generally the overall skill pool of a big tournament will always be relatively bigger than a small one, therefore making players take it more seriously.

basing it on prize would result in problems like one city getting less points than another just because the TOs choose to use a lower entry fee. Some TOs might purposely set their entry fees high just so they themselves can get more points or he's trying to help his entire city be higher.

About losers bracket. I dont know about you but everytime I see a hobo bracket, I see gnes, razer and trela run a stampede over the bracket, it doesnt seem to me like there is a motive to go to losers bracket. Your example, ive never really heard of anyone who does that, and even so, its not logical.

If you want to conquer a tournament as fast as possible, you **** the winners bracket. Less matches that need to be played = less risk of losing.

There is a pressure in losers bracket, but there is also an equal pressure in winners to stay in the luxury lane and away from danger. Some people even play worse after they're out of Winners because they're demoralized.

 

[z00ted]

Ozz has spoken.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

And where is the line drawn between a tournament big enough to try at and one that's small enough to sandbag?

If a player can "not enter an MK banned tourney if they don't want to lose points," the same should hold true for a small tournament.

There's no need to draw a line because theres already a system that gauges the points given to small or big tournies. The smaller the tourney, the less you get.

And...you lose less points from losing matches if you go to a smaller tournament, so theres no real advantage to skipping on them. Infact, some people on the PR are lower than they should be because they don't attend the smaller stuff. Points add up.

 

[Infinitysmash]

people enter as like Cloudstrifehero777 and cutechocobopieXX and ****

This is the only part of the post I read and this is automatically the best post made this month in this thread.

 

[BioDG]

Congrats getting to C tier, Tesh!

 

[Tesh]

Okay, there are some flaws with every system, but what you said about loser's bracket is half of my point anyway. No one would want to go to loser's bracket to farm points. Winner's bracket is where you want to be, because its the quickest path to the prize. Thus, alot of pressure in loser's bracket. As for being demoralized, thats just a bit of extra pressure and dealing with pressure is part of being...good. You can't just cut loser's bracket wins in half because people might be demoralized. If there is a big prize on the line, you don't just give up because you lost once.

You even said

There is a pressure in losers bracket, but there is also an equal pressure in winners to stay in the luxury lane and away from danger. Some people even play worse after they're out of Winners because they're demoralized.

the word equal. Is the pressure is equal, then the points should match. And I really doubt you are saying there is twice as much pressure in winner's bracket. Ask any top player how they feel in their first LB match of the day and they won't tell you "i felt a weight lift off of my shoulders and I didn't really need to worry anymore".

Also, I see 2 red shadows on the list.

Couldn't have done it without you Bio!
I'll be heading right back down soon enough though.

 

[Zano]

Pretty sure I could make at least c tier, thinking about it.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Winner's bracket is where you want to be, because its the quickest path to the prize. Thus, alot of pressure in loser's bracket.

!?!??!?!?!

Tesh, my boy! If no one wants to lose in winners because everyone wants to stay in winners, then there is pressure in winners to stay in winners! LOL but you get what i mean. Just like theres pressure in losers because everyone obviously wants to stay in losers. its equal pressure, Winners bracket and losers bracket sets have always been equally taken as seriously.

If M2K is having a bad day and loses to jerm in winners and then i knock him out, why should I get more points then Jerm just because Im in losers?
If players do sandbag during winners, its only when they are comfortable they can still win sets. They will obviously start taking matches seriously if they feel like they might lose while sandbagging. Im guessing we are both agreeing that it should be equal, as far as I know thats how the system currently is? No advantage to winning in winners or losers

 

[Tesh]

UTDzac said you get half points for beating someone in Loser's...

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Yeah I definetly disagree with that. Oh well though

 

[UltimateRazer]

This is why it is less in losers than winners. I'm taking REAL results for my example.

HOBO 21, the one where AD/HD came down to. He never dropped a set thus playing a total of 7 sets.
This was my bracket:

Winners' bracket
Bye
Defeated Andilex
Lost to Espy

Losers' bracket
Defeated CY
Defeated Lee Martin
Defeated Bassem
Defeated Roy R
Defeated Fliphop
Defeated Dojo
Defeated Gnes
Lost to AD/HD

I lost Round 3 in winners bracket. I played a total of 12 sets! That is almost double than what AD/HD played. If I had lost round 1 (if I played someone in that round) or round 2, I would of had to play 14+ sets. I also beat harder people than AD/HD at the tournament. So it would be in no way fair to the person who won the tournament without dropping a set and defeating me to gain LESS points than me for losing early and playing almost double the amount of sets he did.

That is why losers is worth less than winners. Am I right Zac?