RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
The first years of brawl being the most important.
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Official SWF Tier List v8
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Early being 2010/2011
Rizen
Smash Legend
Yoshi's grab game is terrible because the aftertaste 
Yoshi lacks a standing grab. (...17 frames? that's ridiculous)
Like honestly that's pretty terrible, every tether grab is.
His Pivot grab is really good and dash grab is at least not terrible, I really don't know how to rate his ability to get grabs.
Like honestly that's pretty terrible, every tether grab is.
His Pivot grab is really good and dash grab is at least not terrible, I really don't know how to rate his ability to get grabs.
Rizen
Smash Legend
17?!
This is why I never see Yoshi using standing grabs.After checking his data http://www.smashboards.com/threads/yoshis-entire-frame-data.249046/
Standing Grab
Grabs: 17-27
Ends: 63
Pivot Grab
Grabs: 10-20
Ends: 36 <-- (fast end for a tether O.o)
Dash Grab
Grabs: 12-22
Ends: 63
Yoshi's grabs all last for 10 frames and grab out of the air. The reach is nice too. Yoshi can be good at frame trapping with grabs. I've been on the bad end of Yoshi's grab game and it's actually pretty good.
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
Olimar's grab is pretty good imo
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
Yoshi practically never has a reason to standing grab, except for getting caught in shield. But shield grabbing people is actually viable because it's harder to react to than people think it is.
Rizen
Smash Legend
This thread embraces the deluded fantasy worlds of every character player'sThis thread is now about Yoshi players' deluded fantasy world.
Dekillsage
Smash Lord
You guys don't know what its like to fight Yoshi when you're block happy.
I crai evury tim
I crai evury tim
Rizen
Smash Legend
I've fought Yoshi using Bowser
Dekillsage
Smash Lord
rip in peace
philbobjoe
Smash Journeyman
RIP in pieces, shield.
Gardex
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I'd rather read about Yoshi than see another top tier shuffle discussionThis thread is now about Yoshi players' deluded fantasy world.
Why block against Yoshi when you can just use Falco / Snake / MK / Diddy / whoever you want, throw stupid **** on his shield and not ever have to use your shield in the first place?
Dekillsage
Smash Lord
You fool!!!!!!Why block against Yoshi when you can just use Falco / Snake / MK / Diddy / whoever you want, throw stupid **** on his shield and not ever have to use your shield in the first place?
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
I'm telling you guys, just footstool gimp him.
If I can do it with Flaoc in a random char 1v1 stamina side event (against a Yoshi main mind you) by accident, you guys can do it on purpose with your main
If I can do it with Flaoc in a random char 1v1 stamina side event (against a Yoshi main mind you) by accident, you guys can do it on purpose with your main
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
I'm pretty sure I can jab 3 on yoshi's shield safely >_>
i'm pretty sure i'm pikachu
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
That '07 mentality.Why block against Yoshi when you can just use Falco / Snake / MK / Diddy / whoever you want, throw stupid **** on his shield and not ever have to use your shield in the first place?
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That people still have till this day.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
I hope everyone's trolling. This level of ignorance is hilarious.
You know what, I've had it up to here with everyone around here accusing me of trolling. Everything I say is 100% real. I have no time for jokes.
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
Stuff like this is why it's hard to take this thread seriously most of the time.
You'd think by now people who have half a brain know to not have a decent discussion in here without one or two people putting a sarcastic post.
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
I have the best
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Nemy
群れ
Heh. I see what you did there.I have the best.
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
Seagull that's amazing. I'd like to take that smiley off your hands.
BlueXenon
Smash Lord
I found videos on youtube of Yui beating top metaknights including a video of him 2 stocking Rain.
Is this a good mu for fox or did the mk's play the mu incorrectly?
Is this a good mu for fox or did the mk's play the mu incorrectly?
A well played Fox is one of the best characters in the MK matchup.
I'd probably only rate ICs and Diddy above him.
Fox is a really good character that just has a few depressingly bad matchups (ICs and Pikachu, and somewhat Sheik) that hold him back.
I'd probably only rate ICs and Diddy above him.
Fox is a really good character that just has a few depressingly bad matchups (ICs and Pikachu, and somewhat Sheik) that hold him back.
Rizen
Smash Legend
Fox is really good but, correct me if I'm wrong, he doesn't have anything that exploits characters super hard. Like DDD's grab and Dthrow, Sheik's Ftilt, MK's
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Fox absolutely ***** MK.
As results clearly show, right?
Player-1
Smash Legend
Lol @ fox being good
Nemy
群れ
Fox vs Pit is one of my favorite matchups.
As for Fox vs MK I dont know if I agree with him ****** MK.
Could be a joke though.
As for Fox vs MK I dont know if I agree with him ****** MK.
Could be a joke though.
Osennecho
Smash Ace
I hope it's a joke. Now it is true that Fox has one of the best matchups vs MK. It's also true that it is still a losing matchup.
Rizen
Smash Legend
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
is terrible. Him and are close in ****tiness.