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Official SWF Matchup Chart v3.0

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RaptorTEC

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Idk if I'd say Shaya is an international level player. Not that he's bad or anything but yeah.

And I'd say say Yoshi is either even or at a slight disadvantage against Pikachu.
 

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So Yoshi loses -1 to Pika according to the chart. Yoshi actually has mostly winnable MUs vs high tiers except Falco. His spread's better than I thought.
I'm 100% certain no one here wants to watch AiB matches unless they're depressed and need a laugh.
It was a joke, like this thread.
 

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ok so here are my thoughts, am driving car so cbf grammar

1. I know Australia is probably one of the weaker regions, but we still have players who can compete on an international scale aka Shaya and everyone better than him currently

2. I was watching aussie tournament matches from shadowloo showdown and ghostbone impressed me more than our supposed top MK player. I also thought Ghostbusters was just another garbage forum crusader, but I changed my mind now. I still don't care for grimmy (ily grimmy) but that's not the point

Since Earl stopped playing, I've felt that SA has the best Australian MKs in Ghost and Allen.
Which is ironic for the only state that banned him :p
 

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Well at SS they had to play each other
Ghost won and came 5th, Allen lost and came 7th
it went to game 5 last stock though, could've easily had Allen as 5th

There definitely isn't a large gap in skill at all, at least in the MUs that they know (i.e. the ditto and ICs lol)

we have no top tier mains other than that in this stupid state though cause everyone is OMFGLOWTIERHERO so they probably have wildly different results vs. olimar/snake/diddy/etc..., so Ghost might have the edge in that regard, but as they both play the MUs more they'll become more equal imo
 

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We're actually from Quebec.
I guess you can say we're where people like Ally, Holy, Guard, Techiyo, etc. are from.
 

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Well at SS they had to play each other
Ghost won and came 5th, Allen lost and came 7th
it went to game 5 last stock though, could've easily had Allen as 5th
Game 3 last stock, but eh. (the 23 min video could fool you!)
Allens also beat Ledge in bracket earlier, though I could tell Ledge was playing worse on the Sat than the Sunday.
I think we can't really claim off one tournament which state has better MKs.
Though if this was 2004 melee the trash talk would be real.

/and what is this, the Australian tournament results thread
 

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So if we assume that I'm equally as good as (or better than) Tin Man, then I'm default better than everyone else in Australia. prty cul imo
 

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So much hatin'. Yeah it's easy enough to bring up Apex or WHOBO etc when you don't have to shell out thousands of dollars to be there.
Can't we just talk about game play? :facepalm:

I never heard what Yoshi's best and worst stages are?
 

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Well I'm glad you said literally and every way possible. Because now I know completely that you're wrong in literally every way possible, as both a scrub and an off shoot domesticated evolution of a sea urchin.

 

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I kinda wanna make teams for this now for some reason.

But I don't know any Australian players except Shaya, Tin Man, Atilla, GhostBone and Grim Tuesday

So basically Tin Man, Atilla and the people that post in this thread

Oh Aerodrome too.

But this is imo what Team Canada would be (assuming 8 man crews I guess?)

Ally, Holy, V115, TO Joe, Alphicans, Killock, Big D,

and I guess the 8th spot would be between Meekspeedy, Croi, Raziek? Maybe Billybeegood? idk much about the NS scene outside of Project M.

Shaya/other Australians, what would an Australian team be like? You can have Tin Man to make it fair I guess.
 

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K so the Toronto Skype chat just discussed in detail how we think that Crew battle would go. This is what we came up with.

[10/18/2013 11:49:05 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: Dream Australian Team

Tin Man/Attila/Earl/Shaya/Tedeth/Apollo/ZXV/Tibs

According to Aerodrome
[10/18/2013 11:49:06 PM] Anojan: yea bro
[10/18/2013 11:49:09 PM] Anojan: ics is good bro
[10/18/2013 11:49:25 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: How many stocks does Canada have left at the end of that Crew battle (with the team I listed earlier)
[10/18/2013 11:50:33 PM] Damien: About negative 13
[10/18/2013 11:51:26 PM] Anojan: stocks remaining = stocks at start - floor((temperature in australia in celcius)/(the number of white people in attendance))
[10/18/2013 11:51:44 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: lol
[10/18/2013 11:51:53 PM] Anojan: if it's 30 degrees outside
[10/18/2013 11:52:10 PM] Anojan: and there are 8 white people in attendance
[10/18/2013 11:52:13 PM] Anojan: then we will have lost 3 stocks
[10/18/2013 11:52:28 PM] Anojan: if it's 35 degrees outside and there are 2 white people in attendance
[10/18/2013 11:52:38 PM] Anojan: we will have lost 17 stocks
[10/18/2013 11:52:50 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: lmao
[10/18/2013 11:53:10 PM] Anojan: that's the formula
[10/18/2013 11:53:12 PM] Anojan: I proved it the other day
[10/18/2013 11:53:25 PM] Damien: How is it only 35 celsius in australia
[10/18/2013 11:53:31 PM] Damien: Is it winter?
[10/18/2013 11:53:34 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: lol
[10/18/2013 11:53:48 PM] Anojan: well we'd go there during our summer which is their winter so yeah
[10/18/2013 11:53:58 PM] Damien: Oh
[10/18/2013 11:54:01 PM] Damien: Well then
[10/18/2013 11:54:10 PM] Damien: Careful of the dingoes
[10/18/2013 11:54:20 PM] Damien: They steal babies i hear
[10/18/2013 11:54:28 PM] Anojan: i actually checked whether stocks remaining varied with dingos
[10/18/2013 11:54:31 PM] Anojan: it in fact didn't
[10/18/2013 11:54:35 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: average temperature in Melbourne in the Winter is 14 celsius
[10/18/2013 11:54:42 PM] Anojan: well then
[10/18/2013 11:54:55 PM] Anojan: they better have negative amounts of white people in attendance then
[10/18/2013 11:54:55 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: average in the summer is 25.5 celsius
[10/18/2013 11:55:01 PM] Damien: So what you're saying is that dingoes are merely extraneous data
[10/18/2013 11:55:09 PM] Anojan: basically
[10/18/2013 11:55:17 PM] Damien: What about the number of death spiders
[10/18/2013 11:55:22 PM] Anojan: the beta1 estimator was practically zero
[10/18/2013 11:55:23 PM] Anojan: so
[10/18/2013 11:55:23 PM] Anojan: ya
[10/18/2013 11:55:25 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: We do have to take their silly dingo dollars into consideration though
[10/18/2013 11:55:41 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: If there is even 1 in attendance it distracts V115 so much that he SDs 3 times
[10/18/2013 11:55:51 PM] Damien: Theyre made of the still beating hearts of dingoes
[10/18/2013 11:56:19 PM] Damien: Theyre also poisonous and highly volatile
[10/18/2013 11:56:26 PM] Anojan: how many V115s are we accounting for?
[10/18/2013 11:56:31 PM] Damien: 7
[10/18/2013 11:56:52 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: There's only 1 V115 on the crew
[10/18/2013 11:56:59 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: so we'll only account for the 1
[10/18/2013 11:57:21 PM] Damien: But 6 of him are spectating
[10/18/2013 11:57:49 PM] Anojan: spectator stocks are irrelevant
[10/18/2013 11:57:55 PM] Damien: The other is busy posting about how ****ty dedede is
[10/18/2013 11:57:56 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: yeah but they're not playing, so them being distracted by the dingo dollars doesn't count towards the stockcount
[10/18/2013 11:58:03 PM] Damien: Yes
[10/18/2013 11:58:10 PM] Anojan: ok so I guess we'll have to modify the formula
[10/18/2013 11:58:15 PM] Damien: But could they distract the v playig?
[10/18/2013 11:58:24 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: no
[10/18/2013 11:58:32 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: only Dingo dollars can distract the V playing
[10/18/2013 11:58:42 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: the spectating Vs don't have an effect
[10/18/2013 11:58:52 PM] Anojan: let's assume the stocks lost due to the temperature/whiteperson ratio is independent of V's stocks
[10/18/2013 11:58:55 PM] Shiny Mewtwo aka JIGGLYSIR: mostly because they aren't white
[10/18/2013 11:59:10 PM] Damien: Wait but what if the spectating vs are so distracted
[10/18/2013 11:59:21 PM] Damien: That it protects the playing v
[10/18/2013 11:59:21 PM] Anojan: that way we can just subtract 3*I(D>=1)
[10/18/2013 11:59:36 PM] Anojan: I being 1 if there is a dingo dollar present

The conclusion that we came to is that we aren't actually capable of discussing anything and that we really wish Tin Man had been online to give an actual opinion
 
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