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That is not as bad as it sounds. You're not necessarily giving four brand new specials to each character. They're just stronger versions. In some cases, some attacks would have the same animations. For example, PK Fire and PK Fire Beta would have the same exact animations, but the properties of the attack are different. PK Fire Beta could be a double hitter or something. Another example would be the Wave Beam. Unlike the Charge Beam, it's a much wider beam.
Well, your idea is more or less the equivalent of weapon equipment. It's more than likely that there would be one attack that's an Infinity+1 Sword. I can see how my idea can be considered RPG-esque, but it's not like you need them necessarily to win.
So do you want things to stay the same? Like it or not, the gameplay is going to change in some form in the next game. Whether it'll be our ideas, or something completely different.
I like the idea, also when she is in that mode maybe its easier to knock her off screen or something so you don't roll around the whole match without worry of getting knocked off easily, there would have to be some sort of weakness to it.
While the animations would be the same in certain instances, that still doesn't change the fact that the effects still have to be added in there, as well as a need to do a lot of rebalencing between all the characters. For instance, a lot of characters defences would have to be redone with all these special moves being buffed up, and for certain characters, like Yoshi, this causes problems. Also what about non-attack specials such as counters and reflectors? Also a lot of recovery moves don't really lend themselves to having boosts, such as Pit or ROBs. Remember, every special has to be retooled in a instance such as this.
I wouldn't exactly say weapon equipment, and rather move swapping, since there would still be four special moves, though which moves are used are up to the player.
Its not really the same amount of work. While there would still be a lot of balancing involved, what I am suggesting is one or two (I'd prefer two or three) new specials for every character, rather than super versions of every existing special.
I think a number of people would agree that Brawl is in need of rebalancing so it may or may not be more extra work than needed. As for the weight of the characters, I can see how this can be a problem, but anything can be solved with enough determination.
yep they sure are
Yep. You sure do.
The concern is that every character would now have a super version of their specials, leading to a new tier of powerful attacks. For most recovery based specials I would think that their "super" form would allow them to have more recovery to compensate for the overall increase in power. Yoshi doesn't have a special that helps him recover really, and thus there's a bit of a problem. In addition, I guess tether recovaries may also hurt a bit more, since the main problem with them is how to deal with edge guarders, but you would think that their range would also have to be increased for compensation's sake, but in the case of Olimar that may impossible.
While most of these explanations are fine (though I'm a bit skeptical on Fox's) these two are a bit odd. I don't see why there would be much, if any, gain by sucking in the opponent with PSI Magnet, since it seems a bit pointless, as well as conter productive. The PSI Magnet, isn't supposed to damage, unless its activated right on top of the opponent (and that's only Lucas) so when you draw in the opponent, they can simply attack you, while you're waiting for the move to end.
Wouldn't that really screw around with his animations though, since certain attacks need his boosters to be turned off for a second.
Shino raises a good point why alternate specials could be a bad idea. Eventually, people will agree what's the best setup, and all the other ones will be tossed aside.
What the recovery specials get depend on what you do for the character. Let's say Pit lacks a method of running away from a pressure game. Pit's Super Wings of Icarus allows him to withstand two attacks while in flight. As for Yoshi, I think there would have to be some new super specials made. Yoshi in this case would have his Egg Launch from Yoshi's Story.
I should've gone more into detail. PSI Magent Beta allows you to bring the opponent to you. While they are being sucked in, they cannot do anything until the attack ends, however, you have time to attack the opponent. For example, Ness' PSI Magnet Beta sucks in Marth and there is enough time to grab Marth and back throw him.
No, Super Palutena's Arrow without the absorbed attack involves Pit firing two arrows, one right after another with no lag. Pit spending two Super Specials as oppossed to none for G+W gives Pit the advantage to fire out a projectile.
Good point. I suppose it could be remedied by putting other attacks in place when he's in that state.
I'm guessing you've never set foot in the Tactical discussion boards.
I actually agree with you here. Special Brawl was never fun to begin with, so yeah.
Stages I can agree with. Miis, however... well this is my idea: Instead of the Sandbag, you can beat up on a Mii of your choosing while in the WiFi waiting room. It also works like training mode, except you can't control the mii and items can't be used. However this makes throws possible, and it can actually recover instead of die whenever you hit it off the stage. I think Miis should be used the same way in training mode itself, too. Otherwise they really serve no purpose, unless they make a "Mii Parade" assist trophy, which might not be so bad.
You no want Mii character? And Nintendo would never let you just sit there and beat up a Mii if they're not playable.
Who are you to say that? You ALL thought Nintendo would NEVER add useless functions to smash like TRIPPING...
Me say that when?
Well I wasn't surprised when I saw it.
Because they aren't videogame characters, they're system representatives.
What kind of person says they're not VG characters? They're both.
Ya but that's their games Mario sports are Mario Spin-offs that Waluigi was only in, Those are Mii's only games so they aren't spin-offs, different situation
lol but yeah that would be cool if they took songs we submitted, I'm so not going to miss my chance w/ SSB4 like I did w/ Brawl
Do you guys mean real music? Cuz they would never take it.
