[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[Mowrt620]

Hopefully they will not have clones, and TL will be free, and PM will be good to go!

 

[.WC.]

Hopefully they will not have clones, and TL will be free, and PM will be good to go!

Since every videogame made is about making money, and Sakurai is in charge of this one, I doubt he'll fix clones.

He couldn't even give Ganondorf a proper move set with his sword. And of course, all the Starfox characters HAVE to have LANDMASTERS!

Some people say time restraints, I say laziness. But yeah, hopefully clones will be gone.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

So I'm guessing we're off the shop thing...

as for Ganondorf, he doesn't need a sword just a different magic moveset. Honestly I have a feeling that the people that say he needs a sword have only played TP. How many games did he actually use a sword not counting toons or beast-ish form.

and Paper Mario for the win

 

[.WC.]

So I'm guessing we're off the shop thing...

as for Ganondorf, he doesn't need a sword just a different magic moveset. Honestly I have a feeling that the people that say he needs a sword have only played TP. How many games did he actually use a sword not counting toons or beast-ish form.

an Paper Mario for the win

I think the Shop Topic is more enthralling, actually.

I think it would make him slightly more original.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

I think the Shop Topic is more enthralling, actually.

I think it would make him slightly more original.

You say sword make somebody more original that's gold. We don't need anymore sword users, especially changing someone from a magic to sword

and the shop could sell all kings of things

 

[Clownbot]

1. Ganondorf most certainly does not need a sword.

2. Sword users can be original as long as they aren't clones.

 

[mariorocks64]

Bub

STATS
size: same as kirby
strength: same as yoshi
wieght: light weight
speed:just like the ice climbers
agility: just like ice climbers.
range: much range as mario
recovery: the best


normal attacks
A: swipe
A A: swipe
side A: tail whip
dash attack: double kick
up A: head spin like olimar
down A: roll
side smash: headbutt
up smash: swings catapult upwards
down smash: tail whip like yoshi


Arieal attacks
neutral: spinning catapult
downn: tail smash
front: double kick
back:tail whip
up: til whip

SPECIAL ATTACKS
neutral: (charge up) he makes a bubble. if its small, it damages enemy. if its larger than enemy, it can send him up, and pop at the last minute. the enemy pop the bubble depending on how small it is. when trapped in a giant bubble, you must press alot of buttons to get out before the bubble sends you offcreen to your doom.

side: throws a ball at an opponent. when it breaks,on rare times, a character comes out and assists you in standard attacks only. sometimes, a item comes out of the ball you take alot of damage if the ball is the same color as the character. when a ball hits a play, it sticks to him. if 2 more balls the same color stick to him, he takes alot of damage.

up: he gets in his catapult, and can shoot him in any direction. if he crashes into an enemy, he goes into helpless fall state. if he touches anything, he goes into helpless fall state. the recovery has the longest range.

down: he shields himself in a ball. whoever breaks the ball, takes damage. it breaks when its hit 5 times.

final smash: bust a move
you play bust a move. the balls are character faces. if the character faces are popped, the character takes damage and knockback in the end. if you pop 5 of the same bubble at once, the character dies. it takes as long as snakes final smash for it to end.

Grab
hit: headbutt
down throw: just like diddy kong, but bub does a front flip
up throw: does a backflip
front throw: just like falco
back throw: puts character and catapult and shoots him backwards.

taunts
all of them are like the onees in bust a move 2

this is his moveset. who wants me to post the strategies for him?

 

[professor mgw]

Anybody wants crash bandicoot?

 

[Clownbot]

Bub

STATS
size: same as kirby
strength: same as yoshi
wieght: light weight
speed:just like the ice climbers
agility: just like ice climbers.
range: much range as mario
recovery: the best


normal attacks
A: swipe
A A: swipe
side A: tail whip
dash attack: double kick
up A: head spin like olimar
down A: roll
side smash: headbutt
up smash: swings catapult upwards
down smash: tail whip like yoshi


Arieal attacks
neutral: spinning catapult
downn: tail smash
front: double kick
back:tail whip
up: til whip

SPECIAL ATTACKS
neutralcharge up) he makes a bubble. if its small, it damages enemy. if its larger than enemy, it can send him up, and pop at the last minute. the enemy pop the bubble depending on how small it is. when trapped in a giant bubble, you must press alot of buttons to get out before the bubble sends you offcreen to your doom.

side: throws a ball at an opponent. when it breaks,on rare times, a character comes out and assists you in standard attacks only. sometimes, a item comes out of the ball you take alot of damage if the ball is the same color as the character. when a ball hits a play, it sticks to him. if 2 more balls the same color stick to him, he takes alot of damage.

up: he gets in his catapult, and can shoot him in any direction. if he crashes into an enemy, he goes into helpless fall state. if he touches anything, he goes into helpless fall state. the recovery has the longest range.

down: he shields himself in a ball. whoever breaks the ball, takes damage. it breaks when its hit 5 times.

final smash: bust a move
you play bust a move. the balls are character faces. if the character faces are popped, the character takes damage and knockback in the end. if you pop 5 of the same bubble at once, the character dies. it takes as long as snakes final smash for it to end.

Grab
hit: headbutt
down throw: just like diddy kong, but bub does a front flip
up throw: does a backflip
front throw: just like falco
back throw: puts character and catapult and shoots him backwards.

taunts
all of them are like the onees in bust a move 2

this is his moveset. who wants me to post the strategies for him?

Movesets don't go here; post them in the Make Your Move thread (also in the Smash Workshop), but make sure you read the OP to figure out what has to be in the moveset (for example, you're missing damage %s, which are mandatory there).

Also, I don't know who this Bub guy is, but if I haven't heard of him (sorry if that sounds conceited), he probably doesn't stand much chance of getting into Smash.

 

[BBQTV]

I think the Shop Topic is more enthralling, actually.

I think it would make him slightly more original.

u be

im all for the shop thing

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also, I don't know who this Bub guy is, but if I haven't heard of him (sorry if that sounds conceited), he probably doesn't stand much chance of getting into Smash.

He (along with his palette swap Bob) is the mascot of the Bubble Bobble and Bust-A-Move (known as Puzzle Bubble in Japan) series, made by Taito.

Several games of both series came out on Nintendo consoles and portables in the past, so they fit some of the criteria required to get into Smash.

 

[mariorocks64]

Movesets don't go here; post them in the Make Your Move thread (also in the Smash Workshop), but make sure you read the OP to figure out what has to be in the moveset (for example, you're missing damage %s, which are mandatory there).

Also, I don't know who this Bub guy is, but if I haven't heard of him (sorry if that sounds conceited), he probably doesn't stand much chance of getting into Smash.

bub is a miniature dinosaur kid like yoshi. bub originated in bubble bobble. in bubble bobble, he had to trap enemies in bubbles. bub also had a hit puzzle game. called bust a move. in bust a move, you had to pop colorful bubbles by hitting them with bubbles the same color. when all bubbles gone, you win. bub has bubble bobble plus, and bust a move plus on wiiware.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

u be

im all for the shop thing

Let's talk about the shop thing then

 

[BBQTV]

Anybody wants crash bandicoot?

please and thank you

 

[drag0nscythe]

Bub

STATS
size: same as kirby
strength: same as yoshi
wieght: light weight
speed:just like the ice climbers
agility: just like ice climbers.
range: much range as mario
recovery: the best


normal attacks
A: swipe
A A: swipe
side A: tail whip
dash attack: double kick
up A: head spin like olimar
down A: roll
side smash: headbutt
up smash: swings catapult upwards
down smash: tail whip like yoshi


Arieal attacks
neutral: spinning catapult
downn: tail smash
front: double kick
back:tail whip
up: til whip

SPECIAL ATTACKS
neutral: (charge up) he makes a bubble. if its small, it damages enemy. if its larger than enemy, it can send him up, and pop at the last minute. the enemy pop the bubble depending on how small it is. when trapped in a giant bubble, you must press alot of buttons to get out before the bubble sends you offcreen to your doom.

side: throws a ball at an opponent. when it breaks,on rare times, a character comes out and assists you in standard attacks only. sometimes, a item comes out of the ball you take alot of damage if the ball is the same color as the character. when a ball hits a play, it sticks to him. if 2 more balls the same color stick to him, he takes alot of damage.

up: he gets in his catapult, and can shoot him in any direction. if he crashes into an enemy, he goes into helpless fall state. if he touches anything, he goes into helpless fall state. the recovery has the longest range.

down: he shields himself in a ball. whoever breaks the ball, takes damage. it breaks when its hit 5 times.

final smash: bust a move
you play bust a move. the balls are character faces. if the character faces are popped, the character takes damage and knockback in the end. if you pop 5 of the same bubble at once, the character dies. it takes as long as snakes final smash for it to end.

Grab
hit: headbutt
down throw: just like diddy kong, but bub does a front flip
up throw: does a backflip
front throw: just like falco
back throw: puts character and catapult and shoots him backwards.

taunts
all of them are like the onees in bust a move 2

this is his moveset. who wants me to post the strategies for him?

Got no strategies, I suck at making those.
But I like the B moves. Not bad. Does his Down B negate all damage until he fifth hit?

 

[mariorocks64]

Bub

STATS
size: same as kirby
strength: same as yoshi
wieght: light weight
speed:just like the ice climbers
agility: just like ice climbers.
range: much range as mario
recovery: the best


normal attacks
A: swipe 2%
A A: swipe 3%
side A: tail whip 4%
dash attack: double kick3%
up A: head spin like olimar 4x%
down A: roll 5%
side smash: headbutt 9%
up smash: swings catapult upwards 9%
down smash: tail whip like yoshi front: 5% back: 10%


Arieal attacks
neutral: spinning catapult 7%
downn: tail smash 15%
front: double kick 9%
back:tail whip 4%
up: til whip 4%

SPECIAL ATTACKS
neutral: (charge up) he makes a bubble. if its small, it damages enemy. if its larger than enemy, it can send him up, and pop at the last minute. the enemy pop the bubble depending on how small it is. when trapped in a giant bubble, you must press alot of buttons to get out before the bubble sends you offcreen to your doom. small: 1%

side: throws a ball at an opponent. when it breaks,on rare times, a character comes out and assists you in standard attacks only. sometimes, a item comes out of the ball you take alot of damage if the ball is the same color as the character. when a ball hits a player, it sticks to him. if 2 more balls the same color stick to him, he takes alot of damage. different color: 5% same color:20% assistant: 1% 3 balls the same color alligned: 50%

up: he gets in his catapult, and can shoot him in any direction. if he crashes into an enemy, he goes into helpless fall state. if he touches anything, he goes into helpless fall state. the recovery has the longest range. 10%

down: he shields himself in a ball. it negates all attacks but grabs. whoever breaks the ball, takes damage. it breaks when its hit 5 times. diferent color: 10% same color: 20%

final smash: bust a move
you play bust a move. the balls are character faces. if the character faces are popped, the character takes damage and knockback in the end. if you pop 5 of the same bubble at once, the character dies. it takes as long as snakes final smash for it to end. ball popped: 20%

Grab
hit: headbutt 5%
down throw: just like diddy kong, but bub does a front flip 5%
up throw: does a backflip 5%
front throw: just like falco 6%
back throw: puts character and catapult and shoots him backwards. 8%

taunts
all of them are like the onees in bust a move 2.


I added the damage. who wants me to post the strategies for him?

 

[Clownbot]

Bub

STATS
size: same as kirby
strength: same as yoshi
wieght: light weight
speed:just like the ice climbers
agility: just like ice climbers.
range: much range as mario
recovery: the best


normal attacks
A: swipe 2%
A A: swipe 3%
side A: tail whip 4%
dash attack: double kick3%
up A: head spin like olimar 4x%
down A: roll 5%
side smash: headbutt 9%
up smash: swings catapult upwards 9%
down smash: tail whip like yoshi front: 5% back: 10%


Arieal attacks
neutral: spinning catapult 7%
downn: tail smash 15%
front: double kick 9%
back:tail whip 4%
up: til whip 4%

SPECIAL ATTACKS
neutral: (charge up) he makes a bubble. if its small, it damages enemy. if its larger than enemy, it can send him up, and pop at the last minute. the enemy pop the bubble depending on how small it is. when trapped in a giant bubble, you must press alot of buttons to get out before the bubble sends you offcreen to your doom. small: 1%

side: throws a ball at an opponent. when it breaks,on rare times, a character comes out and assists you in standard attacks only. sometimes, a item comes out of the ball you take alot of damage if the ball is the same color as the character. when a ball hits a player, it sticks to him. if 2 more balls the same color stick to him, he takes alot of damage. different color: 5% same color:20% assistant: 1% 3 balls the same color alligned: 50%

up: he gets in his catapult, and can shoot him in any direction. if he crashes into an enemy, he goes into helpless fall state. if he touches anything, he goes into helpless fall state. the recovery has the longest range. 10%

down: he shields himself in a ball. it negates all attacks but grabs. whoever breaks the ball, takes damage. it breaks when its hit 5 times. diferent color: 10% same color: 20%

final smash: bust a move
you play bust a move. the balls are character faces. if the character faces are popped, the character takes damage and knockback in the end. if you pop 5 of the same bubble at once, the character dies. it takes as long as snakes final smash for it to end. ball popped: 20%

Grab
hit: headbutt 5%
down throw: just like diddy kong, but bub does a front flip 5%
up throw: does a backflip 5%
front throw: just like falco 6%
back throw: puts character and catapult and shoots him backwards. 8%

taunts
all of them are like the onees in bust a move 2.


I added the damage. who wants me to post the strategies for him?

*facepalm*

No, maybe it's my fault. Perhaps I should have linked the thread.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=240753

Read the OP of THAT thread, and then as long as you meet all the requirements, post movesets there from now on.

Please.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

*facepalm*

No, maybe it's my fault. Perhaps I should have linked the thread.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=240753

Read the OP of THAT thread, and then as long as you meet all the requirements, post movesets there from now on.

Please.

It would be nice if all the future new members would be informed of this beforehand. That way, we wouldn't get so many moveset-related posts on this topic.

 

[BBQTV]

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[Paper Mario Master]

Sooooooooooooooooo, now what?

 

[BBQTV]

is this the end tune in next week to find out

 

[Paper Mario Master]

I don't think so

 

[n88]

I don't think so

If the spam isn't toned down, you never know.

Anywho, what do people think about online patches to SSB4? I'm not talking abuot DLC, necessarily, just balance tweaks and such. It seems unlikely that there would be a whole lot of that, but if something is ridiculously broken, you never know.

Also, how about a new name for "Solo" Mode? I find it utterly bizarre that everything in "Solo" mode is two-player except for Classic.

 

[Clownbot]

Again, the spam. It hurts me so.

Please give your posts more point, guys. I know this message might qualify as spam, but I can't think of anything SSB4-related to say it really bothers me.

EDIT: Ninja'd by n88. *glares*

 

[Paper Mario Master]

If the spam isn't toned down, you never know.

Anywho, what do people think about online patches to SSB4? I'm not talking abuot DLC, necessarily, just balance tweaks and such. It seems unlikely that there would be a whole lot of that, but if something is ridiculously broken, you never know.

Also, how about a new name for "Solo" Mode? I find it utterly bizarre that everything in "Solo" mode is two-player except for Classic.

Hmmmmmmmm how'bout Normal or Regular or just keep Solo...

 

[.WC.]

I like the idea of shops. Reminds me of the original DBZ Budokai for the cube.

I dunno if this would happen, but it would be cool if you could buy items from the shop, aside from trophies and stickers and whatnot. For example, the ditched Melee items. Flipper, Parasol, Barrel Launcher, Red Shell, etc.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

I like the idea of shops. Reminds me of the original DBZ Budokai for the cube.

I dunno if this would happen, but it would be cool if you could buy items from the shop, aside from trophies and stickers and whatnot. For example, the ditched Melee items. Flipper, Parasol, Barrel Launcher, Red Shell, etc.

and new items, but some of them would start out like those^ and some you would have to unlock.

 

[.WC.]

While on the topic of items, why not?

Items for SSB4?

Personally I was hoping for some WW items.

 

[Zario777]

If Paper Mario gets in, we need Mr. Softener as an item. Its like the opposite of the Metal Box in terms of knockback. When you throw it at an opponent, they lose knockback resistance. (doesn't increase damage done to the victim, just knockback)

 

[drag0nscythe]

It would be nice if all the future new members would be informed of this beforehand. That way, we wouldn't get so many moveset-related posts on this topic.

Problem with that though is content. I only enjoy making B moves, and that topic specifically states to not post incomplete movesets.

So where would they go then?

 

[.WC.]

That sounds like a good item, actually. You could **** with that.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

I'd like to see more Zelda items...any ideas?

Ah I forgot about PM (which is sad cuz he's my most wanted and meh fav)
we should have a couple of badges and the unforgettable Shooting Star and other stuff

 

[.WC.]

Problem with that though is content. I only enjoy making B moves, and that topic specifically states to not post incomplete movesets.

So where would they go then?

Make a "special movesets" topic?

 

[.WC.]

I'd like to see more Zelda items...any ideas?

Light Sword from TP.

 

[Zario777]

Bombchu from OoT (and other possible games) terrain sticks like Pika's B move

 

[.WC.]

Skull Hammer, WW.

 

[UberMario]

Skull Hammer, WW.

I'd rather use that to declone Toon Link. There are too many hammers as items already.


Dizzy Dial (Paper Mario): works like the effects on Spear Pillar, but it spins (slowly) for 10 seconds.

 

[Paper Mario Master]

Why the Light Sword? and Bombchus are good we could also maybe have the Ocarina that does something maybe not....and we could have the Happy Mask Salesmen as an AT that drops different masks that do different things

 

[.WC.]

Why the Light Sword? and Bombchus are good we could also maybe have the Ocarina that does something maybe not....

Because everything is better with SWORDS!

/sarcasm

Joking aside, it was just a small suggestion.

I'd rather use that to declone Toon Link. There are too many hammers as items already.


Dizzy Dial (Paper Mario): works like the effects on Spear Pillar, but it spins (slowly) for 10 seconds.

True.

And true.

I think a good Paper Mario item would be the "Mystery" item. It chooses random selections of items. Fire Flower would have PM effects, in this sense. There's the Thunderbolt, The Stone Cap (work as Metal), Sleepy Sheep and Dizzy Dial.

 

[Zario777]

Remember to give all of the PM series some respect (even tho SPM broke the RPG rep)

Thunder Rage: Quick lightning strikes appear over the opponents. Starts as soon as touched (like the Mario Kart Lightning item)